Orange Posted December 19, 2019 Posted December 19, 2019 Guess which murderous dictator Republicans vehemently agree with? https://www.yahoo.com/news/putin-questions-human-role-global-094552855.html?fr=yset_chr_syc_hp
glduck Posted December 20, 2019 Posted December 20, 2019 8 hours ago, Quack 12 said: What a P.O.S. Does Papa have a trademark on “Thanks for 2020?” ‘Cause I want to thank Trump for Michigan in 2020. That clip is going to be on every campaign ad in the state.
Orange Posted December 20, 2019 Posted December 20, 2019 Go to 2:10. This guy refuses to accept 1st-grade math because it's detrimental to the trump family. This is the delusion that is Trumpsexuality.
Orange Posted January 7, 2020 Posted January 7, 2020 Republicans are the ultimate in lying, dishonest pieces of shit: GOP Congressman Freaks After People Call Out His Fake Obama Photo https://www.yahoo.com/news/paul-gosar-fake-obama-pic-234328453.html?fr=yset_chr_syc_hp @PapaG's kinda guy! A shameless, lying sack of shit who throws a tantrum when people call him on it. EDIT: This is the same asshole whose siblings hate him, lmao! https://www.huffpost.com/entry/paul-gosar-siblings-attack-ad_n_5ba57e7fe4b0375f8f9cfaed
CRBuff Posted January 10, 2020 Posted January 10, 2020 Right. And here we are back in echo chambers (guess we never left). Every president is either a nazi or Muslim, and will definitely bring down the nation.
Scscsc89 Posted January 10, 2020 Author Posted January 10, 2020 False equivalency will bring down the nation.
CRBuff Posted January 10, 2020 Posted January 10, 2020 Yes. Definitely no similarities in the ways the parties act, especially when you are on a team.
Orange Posted January 10, 2020 Posted January 10, 2020 I'm hard-pressed to see how a reasonable person can see the administrations of Bush, Obama and Trump, and not see objective differences in the competence of each administration. Bush started an absolute shitstorm that totally destabilized the region, killed 7,000 U.S. soldiers, and nearly a million Iraqi civilians. Trump abandoned the Kurds and assassinated a government official without consulting Congress. What's the "both sides" argument here, exactly?
Scscsc89 Posted January 10, 2020 Author Posted January 10, 2020 20 minutes ago, CRBuff said: Yes. Definitely no similarities in the ways the parties act, especially when you are on a team. I'm not asking you to pick a team. Just stop equating a song played at 2 and another played at 11 as being the same problem.
CRBuff Posted January 10, 2020 Posted January 10, 2020 Simply rolling my eyes at the we were 100% right about Bush, and Chris Hayes appearing to push back on not being partisan (or a partisan hack). By no means am I saying all presidents are equally bad (or good). In fact I’d say that there is a lot of gray with all of them.
Scscsc89 Posted January 10, 2020 Author Posted January 10, 2020 11 minutes ago, CRBuff said: By no means am I saying all presidents are equally bad (or good). In fact I’d say that there is a lot of gray with all of them. These two sentences seem to be contradictory or at least conflated.
Orange Posted January 10, 2020 Posted January 10, 2020 4 hours ago, CRBuff said: Simply rolling my eyes at the we were 100% right about Bush, and Chris Hayes appearing to push back on not being partisan (or a partisan hack). By no means am I saying all presidents are equally bad (or good). In fact I’d say that there is a lot of gray with all of them. I don't think Hayes is saying he's not partisan. He's just saying that those of us who pushed back on Bush were right. I certainly won't claim I'm not partisan, and I don't see what's so great about being "non-partisan". Landing square in the middle of the political spectrum shouldn't necessarily be a point of pride (not to mention it's subjective).
CRBuff Posted January 13, 2020 Posted January 13, 2020 On 1/10/2020 at 4:51 PM, Orange said: I don't think Hayes is saying he's not partisan. He's just saying that those of us who pushed back on Bush were right. I certainly won't claim I'm not partisan, and I don't see what's so great about being "non-partisan". Landing square in the middle of the political spectrum shouldn't necessarily be a point of pride (not to mention it's subjective). I can’t speak to what you said (or didn’t say about Bush). Of course I’d argue Hayes (or any commentator for that matter) was ever 100% right. And there is not necessarily pride with being an independent, nor do I think there should be great pride in being a dem or republican. I just can’t stand where we are today. A leader says he will not work with Obama and the base cheers him on. The other side call for trumps impeachment prior to inauguration and their side cheers. And then we wonder why absolutely nothing gets done. It’s amazing to watch.
Scscsc89 Posted January 13, 2020 Author Posted January 13, 2020 52 minutes ago, CRBuff said: A leader says he will not work with Obama and the base cheers him on. The other side call for trumps impeachment prior to inauguration and their side cheers. Do you not see the inherent false equivalency in this example? Do you not see how dangerous it is?
CRBuff Posted January 13, 2020 Posted January 13, 2020 I guess I see considerably more danger in the approaches the parties take. Purity tests, an unwillingness to compromise. voters are proud of not giving an inch, even when nothing gets done. It’s absurd. 1
Scscsc89 Posted January 13, 2020 Author Posted January 13, 2020 Undoubtedly that’s a problem. but do you understand why that statement you typed is ridiculously biased in the name of non-bias? no side can ever cross a line if you’re always automatically assigning “both sides do it” to it.
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