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37 minutes ago, KUGRDON said:

On the MWC Board, the likes of UTEP, NMSU, Gonzaga, and BYU have been mentioned.  Not sure about Grand Canyon U.

MWC's media rights deal expires after the 2019-20 school year.  They were the first to launch their own conference network which the Pac-12 followed later on.  I imagine Pac-12 fans will be wondering what kind of deal the MWC will be.  Both conferences have issues with late game start times determined by the networks.

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2 hours ago, Orange said:

Certainly seems like population in a given metro area has absolutely zero bearing on how many turn out for a game.  Almost like it's the reverse.

If this were raw attendance as opposed to percentage of capacity I don't think your assertion would be true.

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Top 20 Metros with the Greatest Percent Share of Football Attendance**
Rank Metro Percent of Population
1 Oxford, MS 131%
2 Starkville, MS 128%
3 Stillwater, OK 73%
4 State College, PA 70%
5 Pullman, WA 69%
6 Laramie, WY 67%

 

6 Laramie, WY 67%
7 Auburn-Opelika, AL 66%
8 Ames, IA 63%
9 Corvallis, OR 52%
10 Bowling Green, KY 50%
11 Athens-Clarke County, GA 50%
12 Tuscaloosa, AL 49%
13 Iowa City, IA 48%
14 Morgantown, WV 48%
15 College Station-Bryan, TX 43%
16 Blacksburg-Christiansburg-Radford, VA 42%
17 Manhattan, KS 41%
18 Columbia, MO 38%
19 Lawrence, KS 37%
20 Ruston, LA 37%
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1 hour ago, Mano said:

If this were raw attendance as opposed to percentage of capacity I don't think your assertion would be true.

Well, the largest metro area in the conference, by far, has miniscule turnout as compared to even its stadium capacity.  The second and third largest don't fare much better (Phoenix and Bay Area).

The outliers from my theory are Corvallis (lousy %) and Seattle (high %).  And OSU is only that way because they suck balls right now.  Throw those out and, even with raw numbers, I think I'm close.

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1 hour ago, Quack 12 said:

That second list is hilarious. Oxford is a "metro"?????? It has 10,000 fewer people than Pullman. Laramie? Ames?

I don't believe that Stanford number in the first list. Maybe it's based on ticket sales, as opposed to actual butts in seats.

Anyone who believes this has never seen a Stanford home game on TV or has never been to a Stanford home game in person. They would be lucky to hit 70% attendance. 

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15 hours ago, All Hail said:

Anyone who believes this has never seen a Stanford home game on TV or has never been to a Stanford home game in person. They would be lucky to hit 70% attendance. 

 When I'e been there, it' usually about 40% Stanford fans and 60% UO fans at the stadium.  It' a great road trip for anyone looking to go to a road game in a nice area to.visit, and who wants to be able.to buy a ticket for pretty cheap.

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Average attendance for the Pac-12 in 2017 (the lowest average conference attendance of Power Five leagues):

  1.  USC: 72,683
  2. Washington: 68,822
  3. UCLA: 56,044
  4. Oregon: 55,483
  5. Arizona State: 51,380
  6. Stanford: 47,398
  7. Colorado: 47,056
  8. Utah: 45,913
  9. Arizona: 42,938
  10. Cal: 36,548
  11. Oregon State: 34,754
  12. Washington State: 31,982
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6 minutes ago, Quack 12 said:

And that's never gonna change.

Actually, looking at the numbers, I was wrong.  The Pac-12 is not the lowest.  Here's the NCAA report for 2017:

Conference....2017 Attend.... Avg. Change In Avg.

1. Southeastern....75,074....-2,433

2. Big Ten...66,227.....+ 76

3. Big 12.....56,852..... -679

4. Pac-12.....49,601.... -472

5. Atlantic Coast...48,442..... -1,292

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3 hours ago, Downthefield said:

Average attendance for the Pac-12 in 2017 (the lowest average conference attendance of Power Five leagues):

  1.  USC: 72,683
  2. Washington: 68,822
  3. UCLA: 56,044
  4. Oregon: 55,483
  5. Arizona State: 51,380
  6. Stanford: 47,398
  7. Colorado: 47,056
  8. Utah: 45,913
  9. Arizona: 42,938
  10. Cal: 36,548
  11. Oregon State: 34,754
  12. Washington State: 31,982

Boy, California is the outlier. 

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2 minutes ago, KUGRDON said:

Boy, California is the outlier. 

California in general is a terrible state for college sports.  The average person just doesn't care that much at all.  If you listen to sports talk radio, college sports is almost entirely ignored.  

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I was talking Cal.  I agree that California, indeed the West Coast, is less than enthusiastic about college sports as measured by SEC standards, but Cal’s attendance in light of potential audience is an outlier.  Deeper problems than general California apathy.

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