AlpineSummer Posted March 13 Author Posted March 13 On 3/13/2025 at 1:40 PM, SharkTanked said: Or Putin is just a smart guy knowing: 1. Trump only wants peace and to say he did it. 2. Trump doesn't care what Ukraine wants because they are a weak country. 3. Trump doesn't care what NATO wants because they are weak countries. So Putin knows he can get what he wants in the name of Trump creating "peace." Afterall, what is more "peaceful" than a completely disarmed Ukraine that is completely beholden to Russia? Joe wanted what our allies want. To stop Russian aggression in Europe. I guess he thought it would take more than tough talk? He's trolling although I'm sure you got that, others reading... 1 1 Quote
halfmanhalfbronco Posted March 13 Posted March 13 On 3/13/2025 at 1:40 PM, SharkTanked said: Or Putin is just a smart guy knowing: 1. Trump only wants peace and to say he did it. 2. Trump doesn't care what Ukraine wants because they are a weak country. 3. Trump doesn't care what NATO wants because they are weak countries. So Putin knows he can get what he wants in the name of Trump creating "peace." Afterall, what is more "peaceful" than a completely disarmed Ukraine that is completely beholden to Russia? Joe wanted what our allies want. To stop Russian aggression in Europe. I guess he thought it would take more than tough talk? That's not what our allies wanted. If that is what they wanted they would not have let it get to this point. What our allies want is cheap Russian energy and the US to spend our tax dollars protecting them. What they want is the best of all worlds. Fuck em to hell I say. JK on that last line. 1 Quote
tailingpermit Posted March 13 Posted March 13 Vlad will be signing a peace deal as soon as it hits his desk, he has been shown our most destructive weapon… Quote
halfmanhalfbronco Posted March 13 Posted March 13 On 3/13/2025 at 1:46 PM, AlpineSummer said: He's trolling although I'm sure you got that, others reading... Did Joe Biden diddle all those autistic kids in Yekaterinburg or not? It's more likely than Cleopatra being black... 1 Quote
SharkTanked Posted March 13 Posted March 13 Weird... this speech was 84 yrs ago... https://voicesofdemocracy.umd.edu/fdr-the-four-freedoms-speech-text/ Even when the World War broke out in 1914, it seemed to contain only small threat of danger to our own American future. But, as time went on, as we remember, the American people began to visualize what the downfall of democratic nations might mean to our own democracy. [11] We need not overemphasize imperfections in the Peace of Versailles. We need not harp on failure of the democracies to deal with problems of world reconstruction. We should remember that the Peace of 1919 was far less unjust than the kind of “pacification” which began even before Munich, and which is being carried on under the new order of tyranny that seeks to spread over every continent today. The American people have unalterably set their faces against that tyranny. [12] I suppose that every realist knows that the democratic way of life is at this moment being directly assailed in every part of the world–assailed either by arms, or by secret spreading of poisonous propaganda by those who seek to destroy unity and promote discord in nations that are still at peace. [13] During sixteen long months this assault has blotted out the whole pattern of democratic life in an appalling number of independent nations, great and small. And the assailants are still on the march, threatening other nations, great and small. o realistic American can expect from a dictator’s peace international generosity, or return of true independence, or world disarmament, or freedom of expression, or freedom of religion–or even good business. [18] Such a peace would bring no security for us or for our neighbors. “Those, who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.” [19] As a nation, we may take pride in the fact that we are softhearted; but we cannot afford to be soft-headed. [20] We must always be wary of those who with sounding brass and a tinkling cymbal preach the “ism” of appeasement. [21] We must especially beware of that small group of selfish men who would clip the wings of the American eagle in order to feather their own nests. [22] I have recently pointed out how quickly the tempo of modern warfare could bring into our very midst the physical attack which we must eventually expect if the dictator nations win this war. [23] There is much loose talk of our immunity from immediate and direct invasion from across the seas. Obviously, as long as the British Navy retains its power, no such danger exists. Even if there were no British Navy, it is not probable that any enemy would be stupid enough to attack us by landing troops in the United States from across thousands of miles of ocean, until it had acquired strategic bases from which to operate. [24] But we learn much from the lessons of the past years in Europe-particularly the lesson of Norway, whose essential seaports were captured by treachery and surprise built up over a series of years. [25] The first phase of the invasion of this Hemisphere would not be the landing of regular troops. The necessary strategic points would be occupied by secret agents and by their dupes- and great numbers of them are already here, and in Latin America. [26] As long as the aggressor nations maintain the offensive, they-not we–will choose the time and the place and the method of their attack. [27] And that is why the future of all the American Republics is today in serious danger. The need of the moment is that our actions and our policy should be devoted primarily–almost exclusively–to meeting this foreign peril. For all our domestic problems are now a part of the great emergency. [31] Just as our national policy in internal affairs has been based upon a decent respect for the rights and the dignity of all of our fellow men within our gates, so our national policy in foreign affairs has been based on a decent respect for the rights and the dignity of all nations, large and small. And the justice of morality must and will win in the end. [32] Our national policy is this: [33] First, by an impressive expression of the public will and without regard to partisanship, we are committed to all-inclusive national defense. [34] Second, by an impressive expression of the public will and without regard to partisanship, we are committed to full support of all those resolute people everywhere who are resisting aggression and are thereby keeping war away from our Hemisphere. By this support, we express our determination that the democratic cause shall prevail; and we strengthen the defense and the security of our own nation. [35] Third, by an impressive expression of the public will and without regard to partisanship, we are committed to the proposition that principles of morality and considerations for our own security will never permit us to acquiesce in a peace dictated by aggressors and sponsored by appeasers. We know that enduring peace cannot be bought at the cost of other people’s freedom. Let us say to the democracies: “We Americans are vitally concerned in your defense of freedom. We are putting forth our energies, our resources and our organizing powers to give you the strength to regain and maintain a free world. We shall send you, in ever-increasing numbers, ships, planes, tanks, guns. This is our purpose and our pledge.” [56] In fulfillment of this purpose we will not be intimidated by the threats of dictators that they will regard as a breach of international law or as an act of war our aid to the democracies which dare to resist their aggression. Such aid . . . such aid is not an act of war, even if a dictator should unilaterally proclaim it so to be. [57] And when the dictators, if the dictators, are ready to make war upon us, they will not wait for an act of war on our part. They did not wait for Norway or Belgium or the Netherlands to commit an act of war. [58] Their only interest is in a new one-way international law, which lacks mutuality in its observance, and, therefore, becomes an instrument of oppression. [59] The happiness of future generations of Americans may well depend upon how effective and how immediate we can make our aid felt. No one can tell the exact character of the emergency situations that we may be called upon to meet. The Nation’s hands must not be tied when the Nation’s life is in danger. [60] Yes, and we must all prepare–all of us prepare–to make the sacrifices that the emergency– almost as serious as war itself–demands. Whatever stands in the way of speed and efficiency in defense–in defense preparations of any kind–must give way to the national need. [61] A free nation has the right to expect full cooperation from all groups. A free nation has the right to look to the leaders of business, of labor, and of agriculture to take the lead in stimulating effort, not among other groups but within their own groups. [62] The best way of dealing with the few slackers or trouble makers in our midst is, first, to shame them by patriotic example, and, if that fails, to use the sovereignty of government to save government. [63] As men do not live by bread alone, they do not fight by armaments alone. Those who man our defenses, and those behind them who build our defenses, must have the stamina and the courage which come from unshakable belief in the manner of life which they are defending. The mighty action that we are calling for cannot be based on a disregard of all things the worth fighting for. [64] The Nation takes great satisfaction and much strength from the things which have been done to make its people conscious of their individual stake in the preservation of democratic life in America. Those things have toughened the fibre of our people, have renewed their faith and strengthened their devotion to the institutions we make ready to protect. [65] Certainly this is no time for any of us to stop thinking about the social and economic problems which are the root cause of the social revolution which is today a supreme factor in the world. [66] For there is nothing mysterious about the foundations of a healthy and strong democracy. The basic things expected by our people of their political and economic systems are simple. They are: [67] Equality of opportunity for youth and for others. [68] Jobs for those who can work. [69] Security for those who need it. [70] The ending of special privilege for the few. [71] The preservation of civil liberties for all. [72] The enjoyment . . . the enjoyment of the fruits of scientific progress in a wider and constantly rising standard of living. [73] These are the simple, the basic things that must never be lost sight of in the turmoil and unbelievable complexity of our modern world. The inner and abiding strength of our economic and political systems is dependent upon the degree to which they fulfill these expectations. In the future days, which we seek to make secure, we look forward to a world founded upon four essential human freedoms. [83] The first is freedom of speech and expression–everywhere in the world. [84] The second is freedom of every person to worship God in his own way–everywhere in the world. [85] The third is freedom from want–which, translated into world terms, means economic understandings which will secure to every nation a healthy peacetime life for its inhabitants-everywhere in the world. 86] The fourth is freedom from fear–which, translated into world terms, means a world-wide reduction of armaments to such a point and in such a thorough fashion that no nation will be in a position to commit an act of physical aggression against any neighbor–anywhere in the world. [87] That is no vision of a distant millennium. It is a definite basis for a kind of world attainable in our own time and generation. That kind of world is the very antithesis of the so-called new order of tyranny which the dictators seek to create with the crash of a bomb. [88] To that new order we oppose the greater conception–the moral order. A good society is able to face schemes of world domination and foreign revolutions alike without fear. [89] Since the beginning of our American history, we have been engaged in change–in a perpetual peaceful revolution–a revolution which goes on steadily, quietly adjusting itself to changing conditions–without the concentration camp or the quick-lime in the ditch. The world order which we seek is the cooperation of free countries, working together in a friendly, civilized society. [90] This nation has placed its destiny in the hands and heads and hearts of its millions of free men and women; and its faith in freedom under the guidance of God. Freedom means the supremacy of human rights everywhere. Our support goes to those who struggle to gain those rights and keep them. Our strength is our unity of purpose. [91] To that high concept there can be no end save victory. Quote
tailingpermit Posted March 13 Posted March 13 The Enola Straight will make it rain beavers if Russia doesn’t bend the knee. 1 Quote
Cowboy Up Posted March 13 Posted March 13 On 3/13/2025 at 1:40 PM, SharkTanked said: 1. Trump only wants peace and to say he did it. 100% this I’m afraid! Quote
halfmanhalfbronco Posted March 13 Posted March 13 Jeebus. Ukranian's are dancing in the streets right now and we are talking about the treaty of Versailles 1 Quote
halfmanhalfbronco Posted March 13 Posted March 13 On 3/13/2025 at 1:53 PM, Cowboy Up said: 100% this I’m afraid! The horror of that!!! Quote
tailingpermit Posted March 13 Posted March 13 On 3/13/2025 at 3:53 PM, Cowboy Up said: 100% this I’m afraid! Like you fucked my Mom for love. 1 Quote
BSUTOP25 Posted March 13 Posted March 13 On 3/13/2025 at 9:59 AM, tailingpermit said: Wait till @halfmanhalfbronco, wakes up. Prepare thy war mongering ani!!!!!!! @UtGrizfan and @AztecAlien won’t be satisfied until we’re all eating borscht and stale dark bread below a framed portrait of Vlad hanging from our dining room walls. 1 Quote
halfmanhalfbronco Posted March 13 Posted March 13 On 3/13/2025 at 1:40 PM, SharkTanked said: Or Putin is just a smart guy knowing: 1. Trump only wants peace and to say he did it. Just like Hitler his own self. Nazi move. 1 Quote
tailingpermit Posted March 13 Posted March 13 On 3/13/2025 at 3:58 PM, BSUTOP25 said: @UtGrizfan and @AztecAlien won’t be satisfied until we’re all eating borscht and stale dark bread below a framed portrait of Vlad hanging from our dining room walls. Maybe a photo of the lovely couple instead? 2 2 Quote
AlpineSummer Posted March 13 Author Posted March 13 We all know Biden was compromised by the Russian oligarchs and their incestuous relationships with Ukraine olis who controlled Burisma. Furthermore, if the "Big Guy" had not been so greedy wanting his 10% cut to go along with the plan Kilimnik via Deripaska via Putin floated to Biden to carve up Ukraine, the war never happens. Biden always disappoints. 2 1 Quote
halfmanhalfbronco Posted March 13 Posted March 13 On 3/13/2025 at 2:03 PM, AlpineSummer said: We all know Biden was compromised by the Russian oligarchs and their incestuous relationships with Ukraine olis who controlled Burisma. Furthermore, if the "Big Guy" had not been so greedy wanting his 10% cut to go along with the plan Kilimnik via Deripaska via Putin floated to Biden to carve up Ukraine, the war never happens. Biden always disappoints. An artistic rendition of his trip to Yekaterinburg in 1978. The andromorphic license was to not be overly scaring. Quote
AlpineSummer Posted March 13 Author Posted March 13 On 3/13/2025 at 2:06 PM, halfmanhalfbronco said: An artistic rendition of his trip to Yekaterinburg in 1978. The andromorphic license was to not be overly scaring. I'm afraid to watch. I don't want you to end up like born and joewyo. 1 Quote
halfmanhalfbronco Posted March 13 Posted March 13 On 3/13/2025 at 2:10 PM, AlpineSummer said: I'm afraid to watch. I don't want you to end up like born and joewyo. Oh, the Christmas Critter Blood Orgy is not nearly that disturbing... Quote
halfmanhalfbronco Posted March 13 Posted March 13 Anyways, we are getting closer to a pause in the death and suffering. Would not have been possible without Donald, J. "Art of the Deal" Trump. Cheers 1 1 1 Quote
AlpineSummer Posted March 13 Author Posted March 13 If only you people had voted with me in 2008. Quote
azgreg Posted March 13 Posted March 13 On 3/13/2025 at 12:57 PM, tailingpermit said: Like you fucked my Mom for love. I only did it for the money and fame. Quote
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