SharkTanked Posted March 12 Posted March 12 https://apnews.com/article/trump-epa-climate-zeldin-power-plants-feb184286a7a9419aefddce293362e6b EPA administrator declares the ‘most consequential day of deregulation in American history’ By MATTHEW DALY Environmental Protection Agency administrator Lee Zeldin announced rollbacks Wednesday of 31 environmental regulations including rules on pollution from coal-fired power plants, climate change and electric vehicles. “We are driving a dagger through the heart of climate-change religion and ushering in America’s Golden Age,’' Zeldin said in an essay in the Wall Street Journal. Zeldin says these actions will eliminate trillions of dollars in regulatory costs and “hidden taxes,” lowering the cost of living for American families and reducing prices for buying cars, heating homes and operating businesses. https://apnews.com/live/trump-presidency-updates-3-12-2025#00000195-8bac-d093-a9bf-efafb2490000 Trump’s EPA targets bedrock of climate law. Scientists say they won’t win By MATTHEW DALY Zeldin said he and the president support rewriting the agency’s 2009 finding that planet-warming greenhouse gases endanger public health and welfare — a Clean Air Act underpinning of climate regulations on pollution sources. Environmentalists and climate scientists say any attempt to undo this bedrock of U.S. law won’t succeed. “In the face of overwhelming science, it’s impossible to think that the EPA could develop a contradictory finding that would stand up in court,” said David Doniger, a climate expert at the Natural Resources Defense Council. https://apnews.com/live/trump-presidency-updates-3-12-2025#00000195-8bd7-d3ba-afff-abd7a77d0000 Scientists see EPA’s regulatory rollbacks as latest form of ‘Republican climate denial’ By MATTHEW DALY “They can no longer deny climate change is happening, so instead they’re pretending it’s not a threat, despite the overwhelming scientific evidence that it is, perhaps, the greatest threat that we face today,” University of Pennsylvania climate scientist Michael Mann said. The United States is the second largest carbon polluter in the world, after China, and the largest historical emitter of greenhouse gases. “The Trump administration’s ignorance is trumped only by its malice toward the planet,” said Jason Rylander, legal director at the Center for Biological Diversity’s Climate Law Institute. “Trump and his cronies are bent on putting polluter profits ahead of people’s lives.” 1 Quote
SharkTanked Posted March 12 Author Posted March 12 https://apnews.com/live/trump-presidency-updates-3-12-2025#00000195-8bcc-d183-a7bd-cbedcf240000 EPA chief says removing clean-air rules will ensure ‘American energy remains clean’ By MATTHEW DALY Zeldin said EPA will rewrite a rule restricting air pollution from fossil-fuel fired power plants and a separate measure restricting emissions from cars and trucks that Zeldin and Trump incorrectly label an electric vehicle “mandate.’' President Biden made fighting climate change a hallmark of his presidency, pledging that half of the new cars and trucks sold in the U.S. would be zero-emission by 2030. Zeldin’s EPA also is undoing restrictions on mercury and other air toxins, federal protections for wetlands and a three-decade effort to improve conditions in areas heavily burdened by industrial pollution. “This isn’t about abandoning environmental protection — it’s about achieving it through innovation and not strangulation,” Zeldin wrote. “By reconsidering rules that throttled oil and gas production and unfairly targeted coal-fired power plants, we are ensuring that American energy remains clean, affordable and reliable.” Quote
SharkTanked Posted March 12 Author Posted March 12 On 3/12/2025 at 1:34 PM, tailingpermit said: Bring back smoking on airplanes!!!!!! So far they are just bringing back smoking airplanes. https://apnews.com/article/dc-crash-investigation-american-airlines-helicopter-ntsb-acc8bf751427eb6824d9d1fad30895b8 2 Quote
bornontheblue Posted March 12 Posted March 12 On 3/12/2025 at 2:34 PM, tailingpermit said: Bring back smoking on airplanes!!!!!! Hell YES! Quote
tailingpermit Posted March 12 Posted March 12 On 3/12/2025 at 4:35 PM, SharkTanked said: So far they are just bringing back smoking airplanes. https://apnews.com/article/dc-crash-investigation-american-airlines-helicopter-ntsb-acc8bf751427eb6824d9d1fad30895b8 Pilot error, great response from the NTSB. Quote
tailingpermit Posted March 12 Posted March 12 On 3/12/2025 at 4:36 PM, bornontheblue said: Hell YES! They don’t even allow chewing tobacco on airplanes, liberal logic. Quote
CPslograd Posted March 12 Posted March 12 On 3/12/2025 at 1:43 PM, tailingpermit said: They don’t even allow chewing tobacco on airplanes, liberal logic. You can sneak zinn on a plane though and they dont even know Quote
tailingpermit Posted March 12 Posted March 12 On 3/12/2025 at 5:53 PM, CPslograd said: You can sneak zinn on a plane though and they dont even know I don’t trust that stuff, highly addictive. Heard of people having panic attacks when trying to get off them. During the cabinet meeting the other day, looked like Trump was sneaking in a zyn. Quote
Spaztecs Posted March 12 Posted March 12 Polluted air, water, and food FTW ! Such a golden age we live in. Quote
pomf Posted March 13 Posted March 13 I was just thinking I really missed out by not getting to exp acid rain in my lifetime. Good to see its making a comeback. These guy should be put in charge next: 1 Quote
mysfit Posted March 13 Posted March 13 It's the same thing as Kennedy starting new studies to find a link between vaccines and autism. This administration decides they don't like the conclusions reached by well established studies so they want to start from ground zero again. It's insane. All for greed. Quote
CPslograd Posted March 13 Posted March 13 On 3/12/2025 at 5:27 PM, mysfit said: It's the same thing as Kennedy starting new studies to find a link between vaccines and autism. This administration decides they don't like the conclusions reached by well established studies so they want to start from ground zero again. It's insane. All for greed. The “scientists” in charge threw out decades of conventional wisdom and accepted science that masks accomplish nothing for a pneumatic flu type epidemic in a general public application during Covid, where was your outrage then? The EPA got out of control during Bidens administration, time to reign their ass back in 2 Quote
Spaztecs Posted March 13 Posted March 13 On 3/12/2025 at 6:38 PM, CPslograd said: The “scientists” in charge threw out decades of conventional wisdom and accepted science that masks accomplish nothing for a pneumatic flu type epidemic in a general public application during Covid, where was your outrage then? The EPA got out of control during Bidens administration, time to reign their ass back in I'll.lit you down as opposed to clean water and healthy air. 1 Quote
Sactowndog Posted March 13 Posted March 13 On 3/12/2025 at 5:38 PM, CPslograd said: The “scientists” in charge threw out decades of conventional wisdom and accepted science that masks accomplish nothing for a pneumatic flu type epidemic in a general public application during Covid, where was your outrage then? The EPA got out of control during Bidens administration, time to reign their ass back in What is your point about masks? Are you really suggesting masks, and specifically N95 masks have no impact on the spread of virus’s? Quote
CPslograd Posted March 13 Posted March 13 On 3/12/2025 at 5:46 PM, Spaztecs said: I'll.lit you down as opposed to clean water and healthy air. The EPA under Biden wasnt focused on clean water or air pollution. Shit, the worst air pollution Ive ever experienced was because of the wildfires caused by you green nuts This current round of kicking and screaming isnt Trump specific, you big government fans would he hollering over any republican dialing back the green new deal jive 2 4 Quote
CPslograd Posted March 13 Posted March 13 https://climate.mit.edu/ask-mit/do-wind-turbines-kill-birds Those phucked up wind turbines you guys like so much kill a million birds a year in the US alone. Thats almost as many as those cats that @halfmanhalfbroncowants to eradicate . Why do you guys hate birds? And freedom? 😄 1 1 Quote
halfmanhalfbronco Posted March 13 Posted March 13 On 3/12/2025 at 7:09 PM, CPslograd said: https://climate.mit.edu/ask-mit/do-wind-turbines-kill-birds Those phucked up wind turbines you guys like so much kill a million birds a year in the US alone. Thats almost as many as those cats that @halfmanhalfbroncowants to eradicate . Why do you guys hate birds? And freedom? 😄 LMAO. Ok, first, trillions? Really? Trillions. Jeebus. Any claims that deregulation resulting in trillions should be laughed at. Beyond that there is the scientific principle of the way gasses move in our atmosphere. https://www.unep.org/news-and-stories/story/how-do-greenhouse-gases-actually-warm-planet#:~:text=However%2C GHGs%2C unlike other atmospheric,unable to escape the planet. Climate change is a REAL threat, but to the point the US can impact it globally with policy of domestic use, as it comes to you and I...we really can't, That is just math. There needs to be a balance of what can we do and really WHAT CAN WE DO?!?! We can work towards geoengineering and could halt significant portions of climate change, critical ice sheets melting, changes in two critical currents...we have the ability.... We can invest in nuclear power. Yes, climate change is real, and posses a huge risk. We area already at a position that we can stymie it. 1 Quote
halfmanhalfbronco Posted March 13 Posted March 13 So again all these cries about climate change, that are worthy the cries...what are we going to do? Are you all going to start supporting more nuclear power? Are you all going to start supporting geoengineering? If developments are constantly called "doomsday" than put your money where your mouth is. If it is literally life and death....then support nuclear energy...be open to geoengineering to slow sea level rise. I mean we have the ability...we actually have the scientific know how to halt all this...but it's just so damn scary. (it's not...) Quote
halfmanhalfbronco Posted March 13 Posted March 13 Now more direct to topic, getting crucial investments back East from companies administrating upon the legacy of their region...you need to give them something. The EPA has been negligent in their scope. Period. It has a long legacy of being dirty and doing back door deals of how it distributes power out East. We are insulted from that out West. And I think that makes us more ignorant or less willing to be informed on what happens with environmental projections back east. Quote
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