It appears that Trump expansion is more likely

[UtGrizfan]

On 3/12/2025 at 11:14 AM, Spaztecs said:

Did Trump not force the choice upon them ?

They're advocating to be Independent from Denmark from what I understand, doesn't mean they're going to join the USA.

[Spaztecs]

On 3/12/2025 at 9:39 AM, Robe said:

Read the article to lazy to post. They said they want away from Denmark. I’m sure there is a shit load of red tape. You know Trump he will cut thru that like hot knife thru butter

You're love of Trump is disturbing 

[CPslograd]

On 3/12/2025 at 8:43 AM, Robe said:

https://www.cnn.com/2025/03/12/europe/greenland-election-polls-close-demokraatit-intl-hnk/index.html

I would say this election is favorable to Trumps take over. Spin it how you want. They want money and a separation from Denmark. Check check. Greenland is just a matter of time. 

I actually don't think Greenland independence is good for US strategic interests.

An independent Greenland is going to be more inclined to accept development money/bribes from Red China than Denmark.  What Greenland independence actually does is give them leverage to extract more money from the US in return for basing and overflight rights.

A basing deal is also likely to be more stable with Denmark than with an isolated country that can make decisions based on the votes of 50,000 people.

[mugtang]

On 3/12/2025 at 8:34 AM, Robe said:

Greenland officially wants separate from Denmark and doesn’t want to be independent.
 

Welcome to USA Greenlanders

Greenlanders do not want to join the United States.

[CPslograd]

On 3/12/2025 at 12:19 PM, mugtang said:

Greenlanders do not want to join the United States.

Apparently 27% do according to a poll a saw.

Which was a surprisingly high number to me.

Polls are science, so they it must be true.

[mugtang]

On 3/12/2025 at 12:22 PM, CPslograd said:

Apparently 27% do according to a poll a saw.

Which was a surprisingly high number to me.

Polls are science, so they it must be true.

https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2025/03/11/greenland-caught-between-the-us-denmark-and-independence-in-election.html
 

6% per this poll. 

[CPslograd]

On 3/12/2025 at 12:37 PM, mugtang said:

https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2025/03/11/greenland-caught-between-the-us-denmark-and-independence-in-election.html
 

6% per this poll. 

[CPslograd]

On 3/12/2025 at 12:37 PM, mugtang said:

https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2025/03/11/greenland-caught-between-the-us-denmark-and-independence-in-election.html
 

6% per this poll. 

Your poll sucks, and I cant find the one I saw before, google is hiding it from me.

 

[happycamper]

On 3/12/2025 at 1:01 PM, SharkTanked said:

I think it is good that Greenland is talking Independence. That has nothing to do with the US unless it facilitates cooperative treaties, trade, etc. They want to be self-reliant. The US should always support that.

Over 40% of their employment is in the public sector, and more than half of their public sector revenue comes from Denmark proper. 

[Wyobraska]

On 3/12/2025 at 9:46 AM, SalinasSpartan said:

Whether anything about this is “good news for Trump” is immaterial to me. This is an issue for Greenlanders. If that’s what they want, great. 

Do you know about @Robe?  

[The San Diegan]

On 3/12/2025 at 8:16 AM, UtGrizfan said:

I agree with the Colonialism aspect as something to be avoided, make an economic deal with Greenland so both sides benefit.

Panama is a bit more tricky, my understanding of the efforts there was due to a massive increase in Chinese influence over the Canal. I personally am okay with keeping it in the USAs sphere of influence vs a world rival.

Def no problem with a little Monroe Doctrine with regards to the stewardship of the Panama Canal given a) its critical role in global trade and b) the collision course on we are on with China. 

As with most things, the "how" is equally important as the "why."

[CPslograd]

On 3/12/2025 at 1:04 PM, The San Diegan said:

Def no problem with a little Monroe Doctrine with regards to the stewardship of the Panama Canal given a) its critical role in global trade and b) the collision course on we are on with China. 

As with most things, the "how" is equally important as the "why."

Good post.

Strongly encouraging/strongarming Panama to have an American company manage the ports, that's good American policy.

Ginning up anti gringo sentiment with unnecessary threats and obnoxious bravado, isn't just unethical, it's stupid conduct and counterproductive to American interests.

Same thing with how Trump handled the deportation flights, obviously the USA has enough levers to force those countries to take those migrants back, why make a spectacle of it and embarrass them publicly?  The conservative intelligensia has been shamelessly silent about that. 

[SharkTanked]

On 3/12/2025 at 9:17 PM, CPslograd said:

Same thing with how Trump handled the deportation flights, obviously the USA has enough levers to force those countries to take those migrants back, why make a spectacle of it and embarrass them publicly?  The conservative intelligensia has been shamelessly silent about that. 

That's his brand. It's probably what his supporters love most about him. They love the spectacle no matter the results.

[SharkTanked]

His logic remains unassailable

https://apnews.com/live/trump-presidency-updates-3-13-2025#00000195-9083-d1bb-a5ff-f3cba2b60000

Trump questions Denmark’s claim to Greenland, says more US troops could be headed there

By WILL WEISSERT

Trump says “Denmark’s very far away” from Greenland, despite being part of that country’s kingdom.

“A boat landed there 200 years ago or something. They say they have rights to it,” Trump said in the Oval Office. “I don’t know if that’s true. I don’t think it is, actually.”

He noted that the U.S. already has a military presence in Greenland and, “Maybe you’ll see more and more soldiers going there.”

Trump also suggested that Greenland’s election was very good “for us” and “the person who did the best is a very good person as far as we’re concerned.”

[Spaztecs]

Hooray for Empire building !

[azgreg]

 

[CoachKenFTW]

The name is going to be changed from Greenland to Trumpland. 

It's going to the most wonderful Arctic island ever. It will be so good, like nothing you've ever seen.

[Jack]

On 3/12/2025 at 10:17 PM, CPslograd said:

Good post.

Strongly encouraging/strongarming Panama to have an American company manage the ports, that's good American policy.

Ginning up anti gringo sentiment with unnecessary threats and obnoxious bravado, isn't just unethical, it's stupid conduct and counterproductive to American interests.

Same thing with how Trump handled the deportation flights, obviously the USA has enough levers to force those countries to take those migrants back, why make a spectacle of it and embarrass them publicly?  The conservative intelligensia has been shamelessly silent about that. 

Are you not tired of handing other countries buckets of money and have them treat you like shit?

[FresnoFacts]

On 3/13/2025 at 11:00 AM, SharkTanked said:

Trump says “Denmark’s very far away” from Greenland, despite being part of that country’s kingdom.

“A boat landed there 200 years ago or something. They say they have rights to it,” Trump said in the Oval Office. “I don’t know if that’s true. I don’t think it is, actually.”

He noted that the U.S. already has a military presence in Greenland and, “Maybe you’ll see more and more soldiers going there.”

 

I think some people say similar things about the US and Hawaii.

[SalinasSpartan]

On 3/13/2025 at 2:32 PM, FresnoFacts said:

 

I think some people say similar things about the US and Hawaii.

I mean at least a boat from Denmark got to Greenland. The U.S. owns Puerto Rico because a ship blew up by Cuba 127 years ago.