Calls by GOP for US about to abandon our allies and leave NATO

[Spaztecs]

On 3/10/2025 at 3:16 PM, HR_poke said:

You really believe the Ukrainians are Nazis?

His Orange shit gibbon told him they were.

He believes 

[Spaztecs]

On 3/10/2025 at 3:20 PM, CoachKenFTW said:

It isn't a believe or not believe thing. 

Apart from Russia (Russia is actually an ethnically and racially diverse country, especially when compared to the rest of Europe), Eastern Europe has a big Nazi problem. And Ukraine is in Eastern Europe.

Guilt by association.

The shallowness of your intellectual reasoning wouldn't hold water.

[Spaztecs]

On 3/10/2025 at 3:22 PM, UtGrizfan said:

100%. This is literally how Western Media talked about Ukraine before Russia invaded:

It's a shame we can't see who printed that. My guess is pro Trump (Russian) media

[Spaztecs]

On 3/10/2025 at 3:59 PM, Wyobraska said:

I mean, say what you like about the tenets of National Socialism, Dude, at least it's an ethos.

National Socialism was a half educated attempt to create an economic system somewhere between Communism and Capitalism. It failed miserably because the idiots were clueless about economics and had that race hate thing going.

The latter part is being repeated today. Right here in Murica

[CPslograd]

On 3/10/2025 at 12:54 PM, The San Diegan said:

Is that really a theory we want to test tho? 😬 

A good read on the topic is The Greatest Threat by former UNSCOM lead Richard Butler. He makes a helluva case for conventional wisdom in this regard.

Honestly, maybe so.  I think we (the West and our Asian allies) need to have an honest conversation about it, and not be tied by conventional wisdom.

A nuclear Poland? Logistics, political challenges ahead of potential Warsaw deal - Breaking Defense

Look, the Bismarck alliance system worked at keeping the peace too, until it didn't.

[CPslograd]

Europe's Rude Awakening | Washington Monthly

I really like this article above.  Gives you lots to think about whether you agree with the author or not on everything.

Bob Gates looks like Nostrafuckingdamus right now.  This was 13 years ago.

"The blunt reality is that there will be dwindling (U.S.) appetite and patience ... to expend increasingly precious funds on behalf of nations that are apparently unwilling to devote the necessary resources or make the necessary changes to be serious and capable partners in their own defence," Gates said.

"If current trends in the decline of European defence capabilities are not halted and reversed, future U.S. political leaders -- those for whom the Cold War was not the formative experience that it was for me -- may not consider the return on America's investment in NATO worth the cost."

[thelawlorfaithful]

On 3/10/2025 at 6:11 PM, BSUTOP25 said:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/greens-counter-proposal-german-defence-213628443.html

They’ll work out a deal. It’s called politics.

 

https://www.politico.eu/article/germanys-merz-secures-breakthrough-on-historic-spending-plan/

$50 Billion a year of new spending on defense for the next decade. There are quibbles to be had but Germany is on the cusp of its first real step up in my lifetime. Hut ab Merz!

[BSUTOP25]

On 3/14/2025 at 4:31 PM, thelawlorfaithful said:

https://www.politico.eu/article/germanys-merz-secures-breakthrough-on-historic-spending-plan/

$50 Billion a year of new spending on defense for the next decade. There are quibbles to be had but Germany is on the cusp of its first real step up in my lifetime. Hut ab Merz!

We all win with this brother. 

[thelawlorfaithful]

On 3/14/2025 at 3:36 PM, BSUTOP25 said:

We all win with this brother. 

I was never rooting against it. I was skeptical. Germany stepping up is Lucy with the football. They still want to be the bank that funds others to do their fighting but at least now the bank has given itself room to be much more generous.

[azgreg]

On 3/14/2025 at 3:31 PM, thelawlorfaithful said:

https://www.politico.eu/article/germanys-merz-secures-breakthrough-on-historic-spending-plan/

$50 Billion a year of new spending on defense for the next decade. There are quibbles to be had but Germany is on the cusp of its first real step up in my lifetime. Hut ab Merz!

Is that the same thing as a 40% cut over 5 years? Asking for Pete Hegseth.

[thelawlorfaithful]

On 3/14/2025 at 5:53 PM, azgreg said:

Is that the same thing as a 40% cut over 5 years? Asking for Pete Hegseth.

Can one of you that is fluent in retard translate this for me? 

[CPslograd]

On 3/14/2025 at 3:39 PM, thelawlorfaithful said:

I was never rooting against it. I was skeptical. Germany stepping up is Lucy with the football. They still want to be the bank that funds others to do their fighting but at least now the bank has given itself room to be much more generous.

Now lets light a match and squirt some liter fluid on this board!

Would Germany have done this if Biden or Kamala was president?

 

[thelawlorfaithful]

On 3/14/2025 at 6:20 PM, CPslograd said:

Now lets light a match and squirt some liter fluid on this board!

Would Germany have done this if Biden or Kamala was president?

 

Oh it’s hilarious. You can go back to 2014 and we’d be talking about this. Fast forward to 2022 and the Land War in Europe thread and you’re still like “believe it when I see it” in the first 15 pages. More than a decade, 3 President’s, and 4 administrations later and Germany finally starts to pay for somebody to lift their end of the couch.

It is a good day.

[SalinasSpartan]

On 3/14/2025 at 6:33 PM, thelawlorfaithful said:

Oh it’s hilarious. You can go back to 2014 and we’d be talking about this. Fast forward to 2022 and the Land War in Europe thread and you’re still like “believe it when I see it” in the first 15 pages. More than a decade, 3 President’s, and 4 administrations later and Germany finally starts to pay for somebody to lift their end of the couch.

It is a good day.

What was hilarious were your smug ass posts saying this wouldn’t happen LOL.
 

 

[thelawlorfaithful]

On 3/14/2025 at 6:40 PM, SalinasSpartan said:

What was hilarious were your smug ass posts saying this wouldn’t happen LOL.
 

 

Find anywhere I said it wouldn’t happen. It shouldn’t be hard. It’s not there because you’re dumber than a box a rocks. 

[SalinasSpartan]

On 3/14/2025 at 6:45 PM, thelawlorfaithful said:

Find anywhere I said it wouldn’t happen. It shouldn’t be hard. It’s not there because you’re dumber than a box a rocks. 

Bitch sit down, be humble.

[thelawlorfaithful]

On 3/14/2025 at 6:50 PM, SalinasSpartan said:

Bitch sit down, be humble.

Couldn’t find it, huh? That must be a lifelong problem for you. Hint: it’s just above you.

[Sactowndog]

On 3/13/2025 at 10:14 PM, CPslograd said:

Europe's Rude Awakening | Washington Monthly

I really like this article above.  Gives you lots to think about whether you agree with the author or not on everything.

Bob Gates looks like Nostrafuckingdamus right now.  This was 13 years ago.

"The blunt reality is that there will be dwindling (U.S.) appetite and patience ... to expend increasingly precious funds on behalf of nations that are apparently unwilling to devote the necessary resources or make the necessary changes to be serious and capable partners in their own defence," Gates said.

"If current trends in the decline of European defence capabilities are not halted and reversed, future U.S. political leaders -- those for whom the Cold War was not the formative experience that it was for me -- may not consider the return on America's investment in NATO worth the cost."

Have you watched Madam Secretary season 3 episode ~23.  

[thelawlorfaithful]

On 3/14/2025 at 9:31 PM, Sactowndog said:

Have you watched Madam Secretary season 3 episode ~23.  

This explains so much.

[SleepingGiantFan]

On 3/10/2025 at 6:32 PM, CoachKenFTW said:

From the notorious MAGA mouthpieces at Newsweek

Ukraine Makes Birthday of Nazi Collaborator a National Holiday and Bans Book Critical of Anti-Semitic Leader - Newsweek

 

 

Ukraine Makes Birthday of Nazi Collaborator a National Holiday and Bans Book Critical of Anti-Semitic Leader

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Ukraine's parliament has officially designated the birthday of a prominent Nazi collaborator as a national holiday, while also banning a book that criticized another anti-Semitic national leader.

January 1 has now been set aside in the country to remember Stepan Bandera, the Jewish Telegraph Agency reported Thursday. Bandera was a Ukrainian nationalist who joined forces with the German Nazis during World War II because he believed that they would help his country gain independence from the now defunct Soviet Union. However, he was later also targeted and arrested by the Nazis.

The Ukrainian city of Lviv, which was the nationalist's home city, also announced this month that next year would be "Stepan Bandera Year," a move criticized by Israel

Earlier in December, Ukraine's State Committee on Television and Radio Broadcasting banned Swedish historian Anders Rydell's Book of Thieves. The book critically analyzed the actions of Ukrainian nationalist Symon Petliura, whose forces killed large numbers of Jews in the early 20th century. Petilura was later killed by a Russian-born Jew in Paris in 1929.

On December 17, Ukraine voted against a United Nations General Assembly resolution that aimed to combat the "glorification of Nazism, neo-Nazism and other practices that contribute to fuelling contemporary forms of racism, racial discrimination, xenophobia and related intolerance," according to Tass news agency. The United States also voted against the measure, although 129 nations supported the move.

The resolution was put forward by Russia. Nikolai Patrushev, secretary of the Russian Security Council slammed Ukraine and the U.S. for their opposition.

"The decision of the United States and Ukraine to vote against the Russia-initiated resolution is within the frames of these countries' strategy of using neo-Nazi and ultra-right forces in their own political interests," Patrushev said, Tass reported.

People hold torches during a march in Kiev on January 1 to mark the 109th anniversary of the birth of Ukrainian politician Stepan Bandera, one of the leaders of the Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists. GENYA SAVILOV/AFP/Getty Images

Human rights activists have raised serious concerns about the rise of neo-Nazi groups in Ukraine, particularly since Russian-backed separatist rebels took control of sizable portions of the country in 2014. The conflict has led to an increase in anti-Russian sentiments and ultra-nationalist feelings. Some of the nationalists have turned to neo-Nazi ideology as well.

In July, activists even filed a petition with Israel's High Court of Justice, demanding their country halt arms exports to Ukraine, Haaretz reported. Their petition argued that many of the weapons ended up in the hands of fighters who promoted neo-Nazi views.

"Numerous organized radical right-wing groups exist in Ukraine," Freedom House's Ukraine project director Matthew Schaaf said, according to a March report by Reuters. "While the volunteer battalions may have been officially integrated into state structures, some of them have since spun off political and non-profit structures to implement their vision."

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This guy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_Maynar used to work PT as a maintenance man and help coach at our local Little League when I played there in the late sixties. Dad told me that as a little kid, he used to see Maynard's films before he enlisted in the Army after Pearl Harbor. I didn't know Maynard was an alcoholic but it was apparent he was down on his luck. I'm not criticizing him now because he was a really nice man but wonder whether he might have been a relative of yours.