halfmanhalfbronco Posted February 5 Author Posted February 5 On 2/5/2025 at 7:50 AM, happycamper said: 1. I ran out the math homie 2. what you are all ignoring is that in general it is cheaper to eat unhealthy at home vs healthy at home. furthermore it takes a lot (A LOT) more time and effort to cook healthy meals than to buy ultra processed food which is cheaper or as cheap per calorie. Finally we have a pretty huge body of evidence that points to environmental factors being a major source of obesity. Nope. Again, I Eat a healthy 3 course dinner every night for about 4 bucks a meal. No, you can't buy easy super processed shit for cheaper per calorie. A TV dinner is more expensive. Quote
The Barber Posted February 5 Posted February 5 On 2/5/2025 at 10:43 AM, halfmanhalfbronco said: Nope. Again, I Eat a healthy 3 course dinner every night for about 4 bucks a meal. No, you can't buy easy super processed shit for cheaper per calorie. A TV dinner is more expensive. Can you share some of your meal ideas? That sounds impressive. Is it mostly rice and beans? I feel like Americans should eat more of that in their diet. Quote
halfmanhalfbronco Posted February 5 Author Posted February 5 On 2/5/2025 at 11:46 AM, The Barber said: Can you share some of your meal ideas? That sounds impressive. Is it mostly rice and beans? I feel like Americans should eat more of that in their diet. Check up thread. No it's not mostly rice and beans lol. I eat like a king. Just takes a little know how 1 Quote
BroncoInferno Posted February 5 Posted February 5 On 2/5/2025 at 9:13 AM, halfmanhalfbronco said: It's not cheaper. I just proved it. Easier, yes. Which is what everyone said It can be cheaper and anyone who lived off Top Ramen in college knows that. A can of Nalleys chili is cheaper. There are a number of processed foods that are cheaper and easier to heat up on a stove or hot plate and don’t require planning or preparation or cooking equipment that some may not have access to. I’m not arguing that there aren’t better choices for not much more money, but it isn’t as simple as you are making it out to be. Quote
halfmanhalfbronco Posted February 5 Author Posted February 5 On 2/5/2025 at 12:08 PM, BroncoInferno said: It can be cheaper and anyone who lived off Top Ramen in college knows that. A can of Nalleys chili is cheaper. There are a number of processed foods that are cheaper and easier to heat up on a stove or hot plate and don’t require planning or preparation or cooking equipment that some may not have access to. I’m not arguing that there aren’t better choices for not much more money, but it isn’t as simple as you are making it out to be. The topic is specifically fast food. But ok. Let's look. A can of Nalleys Chili is 2.25 at Walmart per google. It has 220 calories. My steak dinner that costs 4 bucks person has about 1000 calories (8 to 10 oz steak, baked potato, side of veggies). My meatloaf with mashed potatoes and green beans that cost about 3.50 per serving has about 1200 calories. So, nope. Nalleys Chili is at least twice as expensive per calorie. Quote
happycamper Posted February 5 Posted February 5 On 2/5/2025 at 1:43 PM, halfmanhalfbronco said: Nope. Again, I Eat a healthy 3 course dinner every night for about 4 bucks a meal. No, you can't buy easy super processed shit for cheaper per calorie. A TV dinner is more expensive. yes, you can man the big bag of ruffles costs 5 bucks and has 1500 calories. that's a lot cheaper per calorie than basically anything else. meanwhile it is scientifically programmed to make it addictive vs home cooked food which while more satsifying does not pull on your chemicals so hard. sure, once you have years of cooking practice and you've amortized your hundreds of dollars of cooking equipment for years and you're only cooking for one, it is very easy to say it is easy to cook healthy. it is! but when you have less time, or you're cooking for more people, or you never learned how to cook, or you don't have any of your own stuff... like i said. if it were easy. it would be solved Quote
halfmanhalfbronco Posted February 5 Author Posted February 5 On 2/5/2025 at 12:36 PM, happycamper said: yes, you can man the big bag of ruffles costs 5 bucks and has 1500 calories. that's a lot cheaper per calorie than basically anything else. meanwhile it is scientifically programmed to make it addictive vs home cooked food which while more satsifying does not pull on your chemicals so hard. sure, once you have years of cooking practice and you've amortized your hundreds of dollars of cooking equipment for years and you're only cooking for one, it is very easy to say it is easy to cook healthy. it is! but when you have less time, or you're cooking for more people, or you never learned how to cook, or you don't have any of your own stuff... like i said. if it were easy. it would be solved It's easier and cheaper to cook healthy for 4 or 5 than 1 or 2 per person. Yes, it takes time and knowledge which too many people don't have. It's not expensive to eat healthy. If you have the know how you can easily do it on the 300 per person SNAP benefits they would qualify for. 50 bucks at goodwill will get you all the cooking equipment you need. Quote
happycamper Posted February 5 Posted February 5 On 2/5/2025 at 2:34 PM, halfmanhalfbronco said: The topic is specifically fast food. But ok. Let's look. A can of Nalleys Chili is 2.25 at Walmart per google. It has 220 calories. My steak dinner that costs 4 bucks person has about 1000 calories (8 to 10 oz steak, baked potato, side of veggies). lol i miss the west. beef is super expensive out here. flank steak is 10 bucks a pound if you're lucky. we eat a lot of chicken also ? 560 calories? https://www.walmart.com/ip/Nalley-Original-Chili-Con-Carne-With-Beans-15-oz/10307618?wmlspartner=wlpa&selectedSellerId=0&wl13=2065&gclsrc=aw.ds&adid=2222222227710307618_161193766053_21214199653&wl0=&wl1=g&wl2=c&wl3=697173827980&wl4=pla-2348450966064&wl5=9013458&wl6=&wl7=&wl8=&wl9=pla&wl10=8175035&wl11=local&wl12=10307618&veh=sem_LIA&gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAiAtYy9BhBcEiwANWQQL6mpdDuiuHCCC91UL1idZWiM9ucVKN4pki073YO6K5vSx0goaQHvxRoCWOAQAvD_BwE On 2/5/2025 at 2:34 PM, halfmanhalfbronco said: My meatloaf with mashed potatoes and green beans that cost about 3.50 per serving has about 1200 calories. So, nope. Nalleys Chili is at least twice as expensive per calorie. Quote
AztecAlien Posted February 5 Posted February 5 On 2/5/2025 at 11:46 AM, The Barber said: Can you share some of your meal ideas? That sounds impressive. Is it mostly rice and beans? I feel like Americans should eat more of that in their diet. My wife made this last night for about 3 bucks. 2 Quote
happycamper Posted February 5 Posted February 5 On 2/5/2025 at 2:38 PM, halfmanhalfbronco said: It's easier and cheaper to cook healthy for 4 or 5 than 1 or 2 per person. halfman... i love you man. but sometimes you prove that you've never done the things you claim. it's a lot easier to cook 4 to 5 person sized meals. it's a lot harder to find a single healthy meal that 4 to 5 people will eat. On 2/5/2025 at 2:38 PM, halfmanhalfbronco said: Yes, it takes time and knowledge which too many people don't have. It's not expensive to eat healthy. If you have the know how you can easily do it on the 300 per person SNAP benefits they would qualify for. this is like me saying it's super easy to design your own deck. takes 15 minutes On 2/5/2025 at 2:38 PM, halfmanhalfbronco said: 50 bucks at goodwill will get you all the cooking equipment you need. the hell kinda goodwills ya got in idaho!? Quote
The Barber Posted February 5 Posted February 5 On 2/5/2025 at 11:41 AM, AztecAlien said: My wife made this last night for about 3 bucks. You are a lucky man. She even made an effort on presentation --- garnish, and restaurant style plate. Your Wife must love you, Sir. Quote
happycamper Posted February 5 Posted February 5 On 2/5/2025 at 2:41 PM, AztecAlien said: My wife made this last night for about 3 bucks. dawg i would need 3 of these lol 1 Quote
AztecAlien Posted February 5 Posted February 5 On 2/5/2025 at 12:43 PM, The Barber said: You are a lucky man. She even made an effort on presentation --- garnish, and restaurant style plate. Your Wife must love you, Sir. She gourmets everything. Even a hot dog. 1 1 Quote
The Barber Posted February 5 Posted February 5 On 2/5/2025 at 11:38 AM, halfmanhalfbronco said: It's easier and cheaper to cook healthy for 4 or 5 than 1 or 2 per person. Yes, it takes time and knowledge which too many people don't have. It's not expensive to eat healthy. If you have the know how you can easily do it on the 300 per person SNAP benefits they would qualify for. 50 bucks at goodwill will get you all the cooking equipment you need. Your parents raised you right, taught you to be frugal sounds like. Quote
halfmanhalfbronco Posted February 5 Author Posted February 5 On 2/5/2025 at 12:39 PM, happycamper said: lol i miss the west. beef is super expensive out here. flank steak is 10 bucks a pound if you're lucky. we eat a lot of chicken also ? 560 calories? https://www.walmart.com/ip/Nalley-Original-Chili-Con-Carne-With-Beans-15-oz/10307618?wmlspartner=wlpa&selectedSellerId=0&wl13=2065&gclsrc=aw.ds&adid=2222222227710307618_161193766053_21214199653&wl0=&wl1=g&wl2=c&wl3=697173827980&wl4=pla-2348450966064&wl5=9013458&wl6=&wl7=&wl8=&wl9=pla&wl10=8175035&wl11=local&wl12=10307618&veh=sem_LIA&gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAiAtYy9BhBcEiwANWQQL6mpdDuiuHCCC91UL1idZWiM9ucVKN4pki073YO6K5vSx0goaQHvxRoCWOAQAvD_BwE Ok that says 490 calories. I just did a quick google. Even at 490 calories it's slightly more per calorie. So you can eat super healthy for about the same price per calorie as canned processed food. It takes time and knowledge, that's the barrier, not cost. And fast food? Way more expensive Quote
halfmanhalfbronco Posted February 5 Author Posted February 5 On 2/5/2025 at 12:42 PM, happycamper said: halfman... i love you man. but sometimes you prove that you've never done the things you claim. it's a lot easier to cook 4 to 5 person sized meals. it's a lot harder to find a single healthy meal that 4 to 5 people will eat. this is like me saying it's super easy to design your own deck. takes 15 minutes the hell kinda goodwills ya got in idaho!? I cook for my sister, Niece, Mom and dad 3 times a week. Average cost per person is around 4 bucks. It's easier and WAY MORE FUN. A lat harder to motivate myself to just cook for me. Quote
The Barber Posted February 5 Posted February 5 On 2/5/2025 at 11:44 AM, AztecAlien said: She gourmets everything. Even a hot dog. OK, sometimes you come across as the cranky, old guy on here. Fixated on politics. I assume because you are a right winger, and surrounded by Democrats in California, you use this place to vent toward the "Libs"? So, when you were a younger man, were you always so politically opinionated? Or, what was your focus then? Just odd how people change / get grouchy as they get older. There is even a medical explanation for men getting grouchy as they get older. I assume you didn't charm your wife with political debates when you were pursuing her? 1 Quote
halfmanhalfbronco Posted February 5 Author Posted February 5 On 2/5/2025 at 12:42 PM, happycamper said: halfman... i love you man. but sometimes you prove that you've never done the things you claim. it's a lot easier to cook 4 to 5 person sized meals. it's a lot harder to find a single healthy meal that 4 to 5 people will eat. this is like me saying it's super easy to design your own deck. takes 15 minutes the hell kinda goodwills ya got in idaho!? Also, I specifically did not say it is easy. Just that it is not EXPENSIVE. Learning to cook, shop, butcher up a large piece of meat would be intimidating to somebody who never learned it growing up. That's the barrier. Not cost Quote
halfmanhalfbronco Posted February 5 Author Posted February 5 On 2/5/2025 at 12:45 PM, The Barber said: Your parents raised you right, taught you to be frugal sounds like. Oh don't get me wrong when I am just cooking for myself I splurge haha Quote
happycamper Posted February 5 Posted February 5 On 2/5/2025 at 2:45 PM, halfmanhalfbronco said: Ok that says 490 calories. I just did a quick google. Even at 490 calories it's slightly more per calorie. So you can eat super healthy for about the same price per calorie as canned processed food. It takes time and knowledge, that's the barrier, not cost. And fast food? Way more expensive On 2/5/2025 at 2:47 PM, halfmanhalfbronco said: I cook for my sister, Niece, Mom and dad 3 times a week. Average cost per person is around 4 bucks. It's easier and WAY MORE FUN. A lat harder to motivate myself to just cook for me. you must be blessed with a family that likes the same stuff (or are not picky). my wife is picky. my oldest is not very picky but doesn't like much wheat or sauces. my youngest can't handle spice, hates mashed potatoes, and prefers her vegetables raw it's such a pain in the ass On 2/5/2025 at 2:51 PM, halfmanhalfbronco said: Also, I specifically did not say it is easy. Just that it is not EXPENSIVE. Learning to cook, shop, butcher up a large piece of meat would be intimidating to somebody who never learned it growing up. That's the barrier. Not cost well. not the only barrier. time is another one. chemical dependence is another one. so is availability. 1 Quote
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