Lobonado Posted January 31 Posted January 31 On 1/31/2025 at 4:31 PM, bornontheblue said: Merger is fine, but no Grand Canyon and Northern Illinois. UTEP I will allow. Can we take back the invite? lol Quote
Spaztecs Posted January 31 Posted January 31 On 1/31/2025 at 3:50 PM, Quickdraw said: Yeah full merger…right. In the past decade we’ve had 2 schools pissing and moaning and looking for a way out no matter what the damage to the conference. With a full merger there will then be 4. While business might say a full merger is the best possible move things cannot continue with business as usual from the past. No sweetheart deals for anyone. Gloria remains as the new commissioner. Now we all know that those terms would be untenable for at least 4 members of the nPAC. The same things that destroyed the PAC cannot be continued in a new merger. JMHO Equal pay for Schools that don't earn is bullshit. SDSU and Boise have brought home over $50 mil each in post season revenue. The next closest School is USU at $15. I get why you want equal revenue. Your School hasn't brought it in in 25 plus years of being another mouth to feed . 1 4 Quote
Chalsean Posted January 31 Posted January 31 I wonder how that would work honestly. The original reverse merge for free did not include the MWC recent additions. It very well could be that MWC has to renege on invites if a reverse merge were to happen. Not saying PAC could not turn around and invite them, but from a legal standpoint I believe PAC would not have to take Hawaii all-sports, UTEP, GCU, UCD, NIU. Quote
Spaztecs Posted January 31 Posted January 31 On 1/31/2025 at 3:54 PM, BroncoInferno said: I was assured by many on this board that WOSU never considered a merger. Now they are still talking about it? MW fans certainly love rumors and clickbait. It's MW honks and Monty that want the merger. 1 Quote
Chalsean Posted January 31 Posted January 31 On 1/31/2025 at 4:33 PM, Lobonado said: Can we take back the invite? lol I think there's two possible outcomes: PAC invites all the schools in the original reverse merger, leaving UTEP, UCD, NIU, GCU as the only MWC members It's still a question as to whether those invites were even legal, since a quorum of MWC was not involved If we could do a reverse merger + Hawaii/UTEP, I'd be pretty happy with that. However I haven't seen any major reporter say anything. Just YouTubers Quote
The Barber Posted January 31 Posted January 31 On 1/31/2025 at 3:36 PM, Chalsean said: I think there's two possible outcomes: PAC invites all the schools in the original reverse merger, leaving UTEP, UCD, NIU, GCU as the only MWC members It's still a question as to whether those invites were even legal, since a quorum of MWC was not involved If we could do a reverse merger + Hawaii/UTEP, I'd be pretty happy with that Seems like a thing the new PAC12 would do---stabbing some schools (UTEP, UCD, NIU, GCU) in the back, now that they have committed. 1 Quote
Chalsean Posted January 31 Posted January 31 On 1/31/2025 at 4:38 PM, The Barber said: Seems like a thing the new PAC12 would do---stabbing some schools (UTEP, UCD, NIU, GCU) in the back, now that they have committed. If you think MWC is above back stabbing I have property to sell you Quote
Bigd Posted January 31 Posted January 31 On 1/31/2025 at 3:38 PM, The Barber said: Seems like a thing the new PAC12 would do---stabbing some schools (UTEP, UCD, NIU, GCU) in the back, now that they have committed. Yeah, I like our resident NIU fans, and the new additions. At this point I'd rather just keep the Pac-12 exit money and let them go on their way. They should have to pay some damages if there is a merger haha. 18 teams is a lot for basketball, but I think GCU is still a good addition, as Arizona is the one major state that would be missing from the western footprint. I like including UTEP as well, and NIU would get us to 16. 4 Quote
Creeper86 Posted January 31 Posted January 31 On 1/31/2025 at 3:28 PM, Spaztecs said: Better not look in the mirror, because the entire MW is getting less than a B1G or SEC squad. you're still here? lolololo I'm thinking 15-20 million for the pac, you? 2 Quote
The Barber Posted January 31 Posted January 31 On 1/31/2025 at 3:41 PM, Bigd said: Yeah, I like our resident NIU fans, and the new additions. At this point I'd rather just keep the Pac-12 exit money and let them go on their way. They should have to pay some damages if there is a merger haha. The whole split from the MWC was premised on the new PAC12 thinking they would have AAC and MWC schools beating down their door to join, and that they'd get a very large TV contract upgrade from what the "dregs" of the MWC can get. So far, no AAC school has been interested. So the rumor is that the new PAC12 is flirting with Texas State? North Texas? And MWC schools like UNLV also said no. The TV deal the PAC12 is looking at might not be much larger than the MWC TV deal. 2 Quote
The Barber Posted January 31 Posted January 31 If you are a TV exec, is there much difference between showing a game of Colorado State or Wyoming? What about Utah State or New Mexico? What about AFA or Fresno? What about UNLV or SDSU? Seems pretty similar, really. Looks like the most valuable TV schools are Boise, Or State, and Wazzu. But, how valuable? Does ESPN or Fox even need that much G6 content anymore? Probably only if it needs cheaply priced filler. MOUNTAIN / PACIFIC TV Slots for Basketball and Football: BIG TEN - USC, UCLA BIG 12 - Utah, Arizona, BYU, ASU, Colorado ACC - Stanford, Cal Quote
Spaztecs Posted January 31 Posted January 31 On 1/31/2025 at 3:54 PM, BroncoInferno said: I was assured by many on this board that WOSU never considered a merger. Now they are still talking about it? MW fans certainly love rumors and clickbait. Monty says it and they fall all over themselves because they want to believe him. You'd think that after throwing all that money at strippers who told them they were cute, they would have learned their lessons. 1 Quote
Spaztecs Posted February 1 Posted February 1 On 1/31/2025 at 4:02 PM, KingSpartan said: Imagine CBS, Fox, TRU, and CW all broadcasting the conferences games. Other G5s could only dream of that exposure. Most people watch their team. As the CFP proved with low ratings. Just cause the MW is on in Birmingham doesn't mean people are going to watch it. Quote
Spaztecs Posted February 1 Posted February 1 On 1/31/2025 at 4:04 PM, Tripoda said: Your entire conference payout annually is less than ONE BIG team payout. You're good with that? Are you planning on being competitive in the future? Or are you OK being blowout out like this year just to be there? It's always been that way. Try again Quote
Quickdraw Posted February 1 Posted February 1 Since the fleeing five no longer have a vote in new conference additions what say do they have in this process. The PAC2 hold veto power on the same issues in the PAC. Are the 5 now just spectators? Yeah this could all be just YouTube chatter but many of the key points involving money are being talked about in multiple places. 2 Quote
KingSpartan Posted February 1 Posted February 1 On 1/31/2025 at 4:01 PM, Spaztecs said: Most people watch their team. As the CFP proved with low ratings. Just cause the MW is on in Birmingham doesn't mean people are going to watch it. ...until you get that one game with the crazy ending and builds an audience for the conference. WAC football made a reputation on Thursday night games. 1 Quote
Spaztecs Posted February 1 Posted February 1 On 1/31/2025 at 4:12 PM, aggieblueballs said: I'll bet anyone on here that a merger will not happen and the Pac will have at least double the payout. This junk show is just spewing off crap to get clicks. I'm telling you deals have already been proposed over 10 million. They are trying to negotiate with multiple sources to up the amount. Expect TNT, CW and Fox to all be involved. Also the pacs own TV assets are being rented out to other conferences and already brings in good revenue. This ain't happening even if it should have happened from the beginning. But there is no way now with all the added schools that a merger will ever happen. Keep on smoking and living a pipe dream. True about the Pac enterprises. They are producing CalFord Olys home games for the ACCN. They have also produced a handful of Giants and Warriors games. Conzano talked about that in his last podcast. These MW Hicks will jump on any reason to ridicule the Pac Schools and their supporters. Especially the two Schools that have been bringing home the bacon. SDSU and Boise. It must suck to be so desperate to so poorly about yourself and your team, you resort to ridiculing the fans of other Schools. All I have to say those MW rubes is look compare your lame post season history, post season revenue, and post 2011 losing records to the Pac Schools. Them tell me who's delusional. 1 Quote
Quickdraw Posted February 1 Posted February 1 On 1/31/2025 at 3:34 PM, Spaztecs said: Equal pay for Schools that don't earn is bullshit. SDSU and Boise have brought home over $50 mil each in post season revenue. The next closest School is USU at $15. I get why you want equal revenue. Your School hasn't brought it in in 25 plus years of being another mouth to feed . That money belongs to the MWC currently. 1 Quote
Spaztecs Posted February 1 Posted February 1 On 1/31/2025 at 4:18 PM, UNLV2001 said: I'd say at this point that the PAC isn't getting any AAC schools..........maybe Texas St, but that's because TSU would be stupid not taking the opportunity to exit the Sun Belt Conference So basically this is where we seem to be: 1 - PAC is at 7 FB playing schools, with possibly a Sun Belt Conf team becoming the 8th to satisfy NCAA regulations 2 - The MWC isn't backing down from the legal fight which could cost the PAC $$ they can't afford to lose 3 - The MWC has made moves to add full & partial members because of the defections to the PAC 4 - It's looking like the PAC's mighty TV deal is coming in way under the inflated amount the PAC was hoping for 5 - Now there's talk of a possible merger / agreement between the MWC & PAC which would mean the MWAC might have 16 FB members (if TX St is out) and 18 BB members if every new invite remains The only talk of a merger is coming from Monty and you MW cry babies. 1 Quote
Quickdraw Posted February 1 Posted February 1 On 1/31/2025 at 3:36 PM, Chalsean said: I think there's two possible outcomes: PAC invites all the schools in the original reverse merger, leaving UTEP, UCD, NIU, GCU as the only MWC members It's still a question as to whether those invites were even legal, since a quorum of MWC was not involved If we could do a reverse merger + Hawaii/UTEP, I'd be pretty happy with that. However I haven't seen any major reporter say anything. Just YouTubers Or maybe the MWC just takes the PAC money, signs a new media deal and waits for the PAC to self destruct and cleans up the pieces we want on our terms? 2 2 1 Quote
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