Posturedoc Posted February 4 Posted February 4 I’m siding with AA on this one. He was asked to back up his inexpensive meals at home claim, gave it a sincere effort without drama, and was then badgered by multiple posters attacking his specific circumstances—distance from home, Costco membership, etc—and in an unnecessarily aggressive and nitpicky manner. Can one take issue with some of his claims? Sure, but it would be easy to do that civilly. This is an instance where his complaints about treatment are, in fact, accurate. You want him to be a better poster, then be better yourselves when that opportunity arises. 2 1 Quote
happycamper Posted February 4 Posted February 4 On 2/4/2025 at 12:59 AM, Posturedoc said: I’m siding with AA on this one. He was asked to back up his inexpensive meals at home claim, gave it a sincere effort without drama, and was then badgered by multiple posters attacking his specific circumstances—distance from home, Costco membership, etc—and in an unnecessarily aggressive and nitpicky manner. Can one take issue with some of his claims? Sure, but it would be easy to do that civilly. This is an instance where his complaints about treatment are, in fact, accurate. You want him to be a better poster, then be better yourselves when that opportunity arises. posture. it's math. was it super easy to have cheap meals in wenatchee, literally within walking distance of costco? yes! was it harder in casper? yes! we're talking about how cheap something is. looking at "nitpicky circumstances" is what that is. this complaint is like bitching about someone bringing up a TD to Int ratio when comparing quarterbacks. 1 Quote
InnZoneU Posted February 4 Posted February 4 On 2/3/2025 at 7:39 PM, renoskier said: I wanted to get back to you on this. Here's a somewhat healthy meal that would easily feed 4, maybe 6, for a whopping $13.56. Less than $2.50-3.50 per/meal. Reality Freshness Guaranteed French Bakery Bread Loaf, 14 oz, 1 Cou $1.00 ckMarketside Caesar Salad Kit Family Size, 17.8 oz $4.48 80% Lean / 20% Fat Ground Beef Chuck, 1 lb Roll, Fresh, All Natura $5.43 Great Value Spaghetti 16oz $0.98 Great Value Tomato Basil Garlic Pasta Sauce, 24 oz $1.67 Also, I just bought 6lbs of chicken thighs @ $1.30/lb and 5lbs of potatoes for $3, add in a salad and once again, at least 4 meals for under $4 each. And these are really easy meals to put together. No you're totally right, fast food isn't cheaper and isn't the main cause of obesity. All the health experts are wrong. I mean, I've got thousands upon thousands of articles I can link to back this up bro. Quote
SalinasSpartan Posted February 4 Posted February 4 On 2/3/2025 at 9:59 PM, Posturedoc said: I’m siding with AA on this one. He was asked to back up his inexpensive meals at home claim, gave it a sincere effort without drama, and was then badgered by multiple posters attacking his specific circumstances—distance from home, Costco membership, etc—and in an unnecessarily aggressive and nitpicky manner. Can one take issue with some of his claims? Sure, but it would be easy to do that civilly. This is an instance where his complaints about treatment are, in fact, accurate. You want him to be a better poster, then be better yourselves when that opportunity arises. I haven’t really read through this thread, but I will say when it comes to @AztecAlien people look at a post from him and come from the starting point of, “how can I shit on this post?”. So even if he posts something that’s correct, or even incorrect but pretty reasonable he still gets attacked because, well, it’s AA. I think that’s bullshit honestly, even though on politics I agree more with many of the people that dogpile him. 3 Quote
RSF Posted February 4 Posted February 4 On 2/4/2025 at 9:56 AM, SalinasSpartan said: I haven’t really read through this thread, but I will say when it comes to @AztecAlien people look at a post from him and come from the starting point of, “how can I shit on this post?”. So even if he posts something that’s correct, or even incorrect but pretty reasonable he still gets attacked because, well, it’s AA. I think that’s bullshit honestly, even though on politics I agree more with many of the people that dogpile him. You might want to read thru the thread, then. 1 Quote
SalinasSpartan Posted February 4 Posted February 4 On 2/4/2025 at 8:01 AM, RSF said: You might want to read thru the thread, then. I lost interest when @AztecAlien started making fun of you for being fat. Just skimming through the rest it got pretty ugly it seems. And yea, I think that is bullshit and wrong for him to do that. But I knew that before I made my post. Quote
AztecAlien Posted February 4 Posted February 4 On 2/4/2025 at 9:01 AM, RSF said: You might want to read thru the thread, then. Yeah he should, because you start it every time. So you got what you got. 1 Quote
AztecAlien Posted February 4 Posted February 4 On 2/4/2025 at 9:04 AM, SalinasSpartan said: I lost interest when @AztecAlien started making fun of you for being fat. Just skimming through the rest it got pretty ugly it seems. And yea, I think that is bullshit and wrong for him to do that. But I knew that before I made my post. I appreciate the honesty. But Look at the post prior to me doing that. You'll see the initials. It's no different than him following me are around every post and calling me stupid or ignorant when he's not even involved in the conversation. He makes claims of being a victim, but that's exactly what he's doing here. 1 Quote
RSF Posted February 4 Posted February 4 On 2/4/2025 at 10:04 AM, SalinasSpartan said: I lost interest when @AztecAlien started making fun of you for being fat. Just skimming through the rest it got pretty ugly it seems. And yea, I think that is bullshit and wrong for him to do that. But I knew that before I made my post. Dont blame you. It's funny that he thinks calling me fat is somehow 'owning me'. I mean, I admitted to it. This ain't grade school. My digs are so much more sophisticated... 1 Quote
renoskier Posted February 4 Posted February 4 On 2/4/2025 at 4:18 AM, happycamper said: posture. it's math. was it super easy to have cheap meals in wenatchee, literally within walking distance of costco? yes! was it harder in casper? yes! we're talking about how cheap something is. looking at "nitpicky circumstances" is what that is. this complaint is like bitching about someone bringing up a TD to Int ratio when comparing quarterbacks. it is nitpicky...AA just mentioned Costco but, and I love Costco, but there are other options. I'm sure there's at least 1 Walmart, maybe even a Sam's Club, and many other markets In Casper. Any supermarket will be a better option, both cost and nutrition wise, than fast food. AA made a legitimate post but you came over the top...be better 1 1 1 Quote
AztecAlien Posted February 4 Posted February 4 On 2/4/2025 at 9:10 AM, RSF said: Dont blame you. It's funny that he thinks calling me fat is somehow 'owning me'. I mean, I admitted to it. This ain't grade school. My digs are so much more sophisticated... So you admit your the instigator but claim I'm the one doing it. Classic. 1 Quote
renoskier Posted February 4 Posted February 4 On 2/4/2025 at 7:07 AM, InnZoneU said: No you're totally right, fast food isn't cheaper and isn't the main cause of obesity. All the health experts are wrong. I mean, I've got thousands upon thousands of articles I can link to back this up bro. that's a probably a good graphic... now let's figure out how much it cost to eat an unhealthy diet...because you're gonna eat edit: actually, I would like to see what's in there "basket" because there's no way in hell that I eat $30 worth of "supermarket" food per day 1 Quote
Posturedoc Posted February 4 Posted February 4 On 2/4/2025 at 4:18 AM, happycamper said: posture. it's math. was it super easy to have cheap meals in wenatchee, literally within walking distance of costco? yes! was it harder in casper? yes! we're talking about how cheap something is. looking at "nitpicky circumstances" is what that is. this complaint is like bitching about someone bringing up a TD to Int ratio when comparing quarterbacks. Starting with Halfman, you and he applied/speculated AA’s specific circumstances—home location, distance from Costco, cost of fuel, etc.—to what was a broader post on what many poor folks could consume that was reasonably inexpensive and, compared to fast/highly processed food and fast food, fairly healthy. Even AA got hijacked into defending his personal living conditions as they relate to his inexpensive meal plan instead of redirecting back to the question he was asked, which paraphrasing was “what are your suggestions for a cheap, healthy meal plan for po folk so they can fight obesity.” Apply your math with that in mind. 1 1 Quote
happycamper Posted February 4 Posted February 4 On 2/4/2025 at 11:11 AM, renoskier said: it is nitpicky...AA just mentioned Costco but, and I love Costco, but there are other options. I'm sure there's at least 1 Walmart, maybe even a Sam's Club, and many other markets In Casper. Any supermarket will be a better option, both cost and nutrition wise, than fast food. AA made a legitimate post but you came over the top...be better "anyway forget about the specific availability of the one thing he hinged his argument on. there are other stores with more expensive rotiseries elsewhere!" I mean... a rotisserie chicken has like 1600 calories. https://www.fatsecret.com/calories-nutrition/costco/rotisserie-chicken An albertsons roitsserie chicken is 9 bucks. https://www.albertsons.com/shop/product-details.960464807.html One rotisserie chicken has about 2x your recommended sodium (see above). Let's say you want to to be healthy (or at least a diet with at least some balance. given how salty rotisseries are healthy is kinda out of the window). So you add a bag of broccoli. that's 2 bucks a pound. https://www.albertsons.com/shop/aisles/fruits-vegetables/fresh-vegetables-herbs/broccoli-cauliflower.html?sort=&page=1&loc=177 get 2 pounds - it bakes down pretty easy. so that's 300 more calories. let's add some rice. albertsons has a basic bag of jasmine rice for 10 bucks/5 lb. same rice is about 1 buck/lb at costco... let's cut the difference, call it 1.50/lb. 2 cups of dry rice, that's 1350 calories, 2 cups of rice is not quite a pound. call it 1.00 of rice. so you're getting ~3250 calories for 14 dollars. a decent dinner for 3 adults or 2 adults and 2 kids. Call it 230 calories/dollar, not including tax cause i'm not including it anywhere else. contrast that to just... taco bell. A cheesy bean and rice burrito costs 1.50 and has 420 calories. It comes with beans, rice, and cheese; you can add pico de gallo to it for free. So... you're actually getting more healthy vegetables out of it. and more protein. And it's cheaper, at 280 calories/dollar, and more convenient, as you don't have to cook it at all, and more convenient, because it comes in nice individual units. so... in this example with a rotisserie chicken, you end up spending more for worse food 😕 There is a reason why fast food exists lol. Does having costco make the rotisserie meal cheaper? sure! but you have to go to costco and you have to have a costco membership. and in AA's case, you have to spend at least 8 bucks (lol) in gas to get it, making it more expensive again. You guys call this nitpicky. but what it is is doing a real comparison. bullshitting about what is and isn't cheaper without actually diving into numbers is just masturbation. if you are too sensitive to actually believe the numbers to compare something, I guess MWCboarding really is dead. Also this is why solving "eating healthy" is hard lol. if it were as easy as you guys are talking about, we'd be a lot healthier country. but in this case it is not just cheaper to eat fast food at the bell, your meal is, if not better for you, at least more complete. 1 Quote
bornontheblue Posted February 4 Posted February 4 On 2/3/2025 at 9:05 PM, AztecAlien said: No, happymelt is an asshole. Talking about hijacking a thread. Dude. Every fucking thread you are in some flamewar with someone and getting your ass handed to you. 1 1 Quote
AztecAlien Posted February 4 Posted February 4 On 2/4/2025 at 9:34 AM, happycamper said: "anyway forget about the specific availability of the one thing he hinged his argument on. there are other stores with more expensive rotiseries elsewhere!" I mean... a rotisserie chicken has like 1600 calories. https://www.fatsecret.com/calories-nutrition/costco/rotisserie-chicken An albertsons roitsserie chicken is 9 bucks. https://www.albertsons.com/shop/product-details.960464807.html One rotisserie chicken has about 2x your recommended sodium (see above). Let's say you want to to be healthy (or at least a diet with at least some balance. given how salty rotisseries are healthy is kinda out of the window). So you add a bag of broccoli. that's 2 bucks a pound. https://www.albertsons.com/shop/aisles/fruits-vegetables/fresh-vegetables-herbs/broccoli-cauliflower.html?sort=&page=1&loc=177 get 2 pounds - it bakes down pretty easy. so that's 300 more calories. let's add some rice. albertsons has a basic bag of jasmine rice for 10 bucks/5 lb. same rice is about 1 buck/lb at costco... let's cut the difference, call it 1.50/lb. 2 cups of dry rice, that's 1350 calories, 2 cups of rice is not quite a pound. call it 1.00 of rice. so you're getting ~3250 calories for 14 dollars. a decent dinner for 3 adults or 2 adults and 2 kids. Call it 230 calories/dollar, not including tax cause i'm not including it anywhere else. contrast that to just... taco bell. A cheesy bean and rice burrito costs 1.50 and has 420 calories. It comes with beans, rice, and cheese; you can add pico de gallo to it for free. So... you're actually getting more healthy vegetables out of it. and more protein. And it's cheaper, at 280 calories/dollar, and more convenient, as you don't have to cook it at all, and more convenient, because it comes in nice individual units. so... in this example with a rotisserie chicken, you end up spending more for worse food 😕 There is a reason why fast food exists lol. Does having costco make the rotisserie meal cheaper? sure! but you have to go to costco and you have to have a costco membership. and in AA's case, you have to spend at least 8 bucks (lol) in gas to get it, making it more expensive again. You guys call this nitpicky. but what it is is doing a real comparison. bullshitting about what is and isn't cheaper without actually diving into numbers is just masturbation. if you are too sensitive to actually believe the numbers to compare something, I guess MWCboarding really is dead. Also this is why solving "eating healthy" is hard lol. if it were as easy as you guys are talking about, we'd be a lot healthier country. but in this case it is not just cheaper to eat fast food at the bell, your meal is, if not better for you, at least more complete. I did the math on my vehicle that gets 38 hwy mph, and it came to $9.80 at $2.89 a gallon, which is what I paid. It's all hwy. So I'll round up to 10 bucks. So you got me, I guess. You claimed $30. You claimed a lot of stuff that you had no idea about, including it would cost $50 before I got there and added all kinds of hypotheticals. I don't drive a truck either. My suggestions to another poster only included two ideas from Costco. My wife and I don’t grocery shop at Costco. All the other suggestions are dishes that can be purchased at the local grocery store. You were just being an ass, and you are doubling down because that's what you do. Quote
happycamper Posted February 4 Posted February 4 On 2/4/2025 at 11:52 AM, AztecAlien said: I did the math on my vehicle that gets 38 hwy mph, and it came to $9.80 at $2.89 a gallon, which is what I paid. It's all hwy. So I'll round up to 10 bucks. So you got me, I guess. You claimed $30. yes. cause that's the gas mileage on a shitty old 3/4 ton chevy. which... that is a pretty common wyoming car lol On 2/4/2025 at 11:52 AM, AztecAlien said: You claimed a lot of stuff that you had no idea about, including it would cost $50 before I got there and added all kinds of hypotheticals. I don't drive a truck either. yer right. it isn't 50 bucks to get in the door of costco any more. it is 65 https://www.costco.com/join-costco.html?EXTID=MBR_PS_FY25_Brand-Google_costcomemberships_Add3_V1_txt_10.1.24&gclsrc=aw.ds&gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQiAkoe9BhDYARIsAH85cDOCmSVw8AbzDoMdhl3uN0mxGZxDOudPEO3oBfxx6ZbSPLAaUA34b58aAvNeEALw_wcB On 2/4/2025 at 11:52 AM, AztecAlien said: My suggestions to another poster only included two ideas from Costco. My wife and I don’t grocery shop at Costco. All the other suggestions are dishes that can be purchased at the local grocery store. if you don't grocery shop at costco why was that your go to example? On 2/4/2025 at 11:52 AM, AztecAlien said: You were just being an ass, and you are doubling down because that's what you do. dawg. I've had to run the numbers on my own family. getting cut in hours right when your wife goes back to school and oops! second baby on the way focuses your budget remarkably this wasn't a case of me "being an ass" about it. this is me just having run the numbers on this stuff already and you being butthurt again that your grand unfounded pronouncements aren't met with universal acclaim 2 1 Quote
AztecAlien Posted February 4 Posted February 4 On 2/4/2025 at 9:14 AM, renoskier said: that's a probably a good graphic... now let's figure out how much it cost to eat an unhealthy diet...because you're gonna eat edit: actually, I would like to see what's in there "basket" because there's no way in hell that I eat $30 worth of "supermarket" food per day I looked at the fine print of that graphic and it's states the methodology was calculated for an individual. There's no way my wife and I spend over $22,000 dollars eating at home. And what kind of items were being purchased? 1 Quote
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