halfmanhalfbronco Posted January 26 Posted January 26 On 1/26/2025 at 1:42 PM, SalinasSpartan said: Ok Gallant. Just say uncle instead. Or daddy. 1 Quote
SalinasSpartan Posted January 26 Posted January 26 On 1/26/2025 at 12:43 PM, halfmanhalfbronco said: Just say uncle instead. Or daddy. I’ll just say ethnic cleansing. Quote
halfmanhalfbronco Posted January 26 Posted January 26 On 1/26/2025 at 1:46 PM, SalinasSpartan said: I’ll just say ethnic cleansing. In this instance, you mean retard. Durkkaaa durrrrrrr you can't engage because I am your better, and you know it, and you would lose. 1 1 Quote
Old_SD_Dude Posted January 26 Posted January 26 On 1/26/2025 at 8:43 AM, halfmanhalfbronco said: A nearly 1:1 militant to civilian death ratio is UNHEARD of, especially in urban warfare. Then when you count the fact Hamas was intentionally trying to get Palestinian Civilians killed on top of that? The IDF did a remarkable job in limiting civilian casualties while eliminating Hamas targets. An unimaginable job, really. Not sure where you get your 1:1 number. Even the Israeli military estimates two civilians killed for every militant, and frankly I would not call the IDF an objective source. https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/05/middleeast/israel-hamas-military-civilian-ratio-killed-intl-hnk/index.html#:~:text=A ratio of two Palestinian civilians killed in,told CNN%2C describing the challenges of urban combat. 1 Quote
halfmanhalfbronco Posted January 26 Posted January 26 On 1/26/2025 at 2:18 PM, Old_SD_Dude said: Not sure where you get your 1:1 number. Even the Israeli military estimates two civilians killed for every militant, and frankly I would not call the IDF an objective source. https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/05/middleeast/israel-hamas-military-civilian-ratio-killed-intl-hnk/index.html#:~:text=A ratio of two Palestinian civilians killed in,told CNN%2C describing the challenges of urban combat. The Reuters Link I provided that was over 2 years more to date than yours... I provided a link from Reuters 10 days old, you give me shit from 2023. I provided a link from Jan 15th of this year, you provide a link form 2023. Fuck off lol Quote
SalinasSpartan Posted January 26 Posted January 26 On 1/26/2025 at 12:48 PM, halfmanhalfbronco said: In this instance, you mean retard. Durkkaaa durrrrrrr you can't engage because I am your better, and you know it, and you would lose. Ok Gallant. Quote
Old_SD_Dude Posted January 26 Posted January 26 On 1/26/2025 at 1:20 PM, halfmanhalfbronco said: The Reuters Link I provided that was over 2 years more to date than yours... I provided a link from Reuters 10 days old, you give me shit from 2023. I provided a link from Jan 15th of this year, you provide a link form 2023. Fuck off lol I don’t see the link you’re referring to anywhere in your posts. Perhaps I missed it. In any event, there are plenty of studies that estimate women and children constitute approximately 70% of the dead. Assuming all the men are militants, it’s still very hard to see how a 1:1 ratio is valid. 1 Quote
SalinasSpartan Posted January 26 Posted January 26 On 1/26/2025 at 1:29 PM, Old_SD_Dude said: I don’t see the link you’re referring to anywhere in your posts. Perhaps I missed it. In any event, there are plenty of studies that estimate women and children constitute approximately 70% of the dead. Assuming all the men are militants, it’s still very hard to see how a 1:1 ratio is valid. Don’t worry @halfmanhalfbronco I got this. Based on this comment you are officially Hammas. 2 Quote
FresnoFacts Posted January 26 Posted January 26 Follow the money. Its an urban redevelopment/gentrification plan. Jared Kushner in March 2024 - "Gaza’s waterfront property could be very valuable … if people would focus on building up livelihoods,” Kushner told his interviewer, the faculty chair of the Middle East Initiative, Prof Tarek Masoud." - https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/mar/19/jared-kushner-gaza-waterfront-property-israel-negev Donald Trump interview with Hugh Hewitt in October 2024 - "HH: You know how to build things. Gaza is in ruins. Could Gaza be Monaco if it was rebuilt the right way? Could someone make Gaza into something that all the Palestinian people would be proud of, would want to live in, would benefit them? DT: It could be better than Monaco. It has the best location in the Middle East, the best water, the best everything. It’s got, it is the best, I’ve said it for years. You know, I’ve been there, and it’s rough. It’s a rough place, before the, you know, before all of the attacks and before the back and forth what’s happened over the last couple of years. HH: Right. DT: And I said wow, look at this. I mean, they have the back of a plant facing the ocean, you know. They’d have, there was no ocean as far as that was concerned. They never took advantage of it. You know, as a developer, it could be the most beautiful place – the weather, the water, the whole thing, the climate. It could be so beautiful. It could be the best thing in the Middle East, but it could be one of the best places in the world." - https://hughhewitt.com/former-president-trump-on-the-anniversary-of-the-10-7-massacre-in-israel 1 Quote
SalinasSpartan Posted January 26 Posted January 26 On 1/26/2025 at 1:50 PM, FresnoFacts said: Follow the money. Its an urban redevelopment/gentrification plan. Jared Kushner in March 2024 - "Gaza’s waterfront property could be very valuable … if people would focus on building up livelihoods,” Kushner told his interviewer, the faculty chair of the Middle East Initiative, Prof Tarek Masoud." - https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/mar/19/jared-kushner-gaza-waterfront-property-israel-negev Donald Trump interview with Hugh Hewitt in October 2024 - "HH: You know how to build things. Gaza is in ruins. Could Gaza be Monaco if it was rebuilt the right way? Could someone make Gaza into something that all the Palestinian people would be proud of, would want to live in, would benefit them? DT: It could be better than Monaco. It has the best location in the Middle East, the best water, the best everything. It’s got, it is the best, I’ve said it for years. You know, I’ve been there, and it’s rough. It’s a rough place, before the, you know, before all of the attacks and before the back and forth what’s happened over the last couple of years. HH: Right. DT: And I said wow, look at this. I mean, they have the back of a plant facing the ocean, you know. They’d have, there was no ocean as far as that was concerned. They never took advantage of it. You know, as a developer, it could be the most beautiful place – the weather, the water, the whole thing, the climate. It could be so beautiful. It could be the best thing in the Middle East, but it could be one of the best places in the world." - https://hughhewitt.com/former-president-trump-on-the-anniversary-of-the-10-7-massacre-in-israel Right but the rule is that as long as you don’t call it ethnic cleansing, it’s not ethnic cleansing. Quote
FresnoFacts Posted January 26 Posted January 26 On 1/26/2025 at 2:13 PM, SalinasSpartan said: Right but the rule is that as long as you don’t call it ethnic cleansing, it’s not ethnic cleansing. The newspeak, post-truth world. Quote
The San Diegan Posted January 26 Posted January 26 On 1/26/2025 at 1:29 PM, Old_SD_Dude said: I don’t see the link you’re referring to anywhere in your posts. Perhaps I missed it. In any event, there are plenty of studies that estimate women and children constitute approximately 70% of the dead. Assuming all the men are militants, it’s still very hard to see how a 1:1 ratio is valid. Here's the article to which @halfmanhalfbronco is referring, and it does indeed cite a near-parity in the ratio of civilian:militant deaths. Assuming those numbers are accurate, it does indeed reflect remarkable restraint by the IDF given the degree of destruction. Not to minimize the horrific number of civilian casualties - that's 20,000 innocent lives (how many were we responsible for in Iraq?) - but considering the IDF pretty much leveled all of Gaza, I'm surprised the casualty figures aren't much higher. 1 Quote
Billings Posted January 27 Posted January 27 On 1/26/2025 at 2:53 PM, The San Diegan said: Here's the article to which @halfmanhalfbronco is referring, and it does indeed cite a near-parity in the ratio of civilian:militant deaths. Assuming those numbers are accurate, it does indeed reflect remarkable restraint by the IDF given the degree of destruction. Not to minimize the horrific number of civilian casualties - that's 20,000 innocent lives (how many were we responsible for in Iraq?) - but considering the IDF pretty much leveled all of Gaza, I'm surprised the casualty figures aren't much higher. I ponder if we will ever know the real numbers 1 Quote
Billings Posted January 27 Posted January 27 On 1/26/2025 at 1:50 PM, FresnoFacts said: Follow the money. Its an urban redevelopment/gentrification plan. Jared Kushner in March 2024 - "Gaza’s waterfront property could be very valuable … if people would focus on building up livelihoods,” Kushner told his interviewer, the faculty chair of the Middle East Initiative, Prof Tarek Masoud." - https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/mar/19/jared-kushner-gaza-waterfront-property-israel-negev Donald Trump interview with Hugh Hewitt in October 2024 - "HH: You know how to build things. Gaza is in ruins. Could Gaza be Monaco if it was rebuilt the right way? Could someone make Gaza into something that all the Palestinian people would be proud of, would want to live in, would benefit them? DT: It could be better than Monaco. It has the best location in the Middle East, the best water, the best everything. It’s got, it is the best, I’ve said it for years. You know, I’ve been there, and it’s rough. It’s a rough place, before the, you know, before all of the attacks and before the back and forth what’s happened over the last couple of years. HH: Right. DT: And I said wow, look at this. I mean, they have the back of a plant facing the ocean, you know. They’d have, there was no ocean as far as that was concerned. They never took advantage of it. You know, as a developer, it could be the most beautiful place – the weather, the water, the whole thing, the climate. It could be so beautiful. It could be the best thing in the Middle East, but it could be one of the best places in the world." - https://hughhewitt.com/former-president-trump-on-the-anniversary-of-the-10-7-massacre-in-israel Given Trump just said he wants/desires to relocate all the Palestinians in Gaza to Egypt or Jordan you think Israel will get that land? 1 Quote
azgreg Posted January 27 Posted January 27 On 1/26/2025 at 4:37 PM, Billings said: Given Trump just said he wants/desires to relocate all the Palestinians in Gaza to Egypt or Jordan you think Israel will get that land? He's already getting turned down. Quote
halfmanhalfbronco Posted January 27 Posted January 27 On 1/26/2025 at 3:53 PM, The San Diegan said: Here's the article to which @halfmanhalfbronco is referring, and it does indeed cite a near-parity in the ratio of civilian:militant deaths. Assuming those numbers are accurate, it does indeed reflect remarkable restraint by the IDF given the degree of destruction. Not to minimize the horrific number of civilian casualties - that's 20,000 innocent lives (how many were we responsible for in Iraq?) - but considering the IDF pretty much leveled all of Gaza, I'm surprised the casualty figures aren't much higher. Thank you! Yes, if those numbers are accurate or even close to it going forward (under 1:2) it is proof positive that the IDF and Israel was not engaging in a god damn genocide.... And stating that Israel is not engaging in ethnic cleansing and genocide, by pointing out the remarkably low civilian to militant death ratio, gets me called "disgusting" and was the reason this back and forth ever happened. Quote
Billings Posted January 27 Posted January 27 On 1/26/2025 at 4:38 PM, azgreg said: He's already getting turned down. Until he starts putting pressure on them Jordan would have a hard time surviving without US aid Quote
halfmanhalfbronco Posted January 27 Posted January 27 On 1/26/2025 at 5:38 PM, azgreg said: He's already getting turned down. That's the fucking point idioits like @Sactowndog @InnZoneU don't get. Trump is not god emperor of earth. Trump saying shit does not mean that retroactively the point was genocide or ethnic cleansing the entire time. Fucking god damn retards, both of them. @InnZoneU is so god damn dumb he can not FATHOM a man who is well read and researched in a variety of topics. Because that is just CRAAAAAZZZZYYYY right? In fact, having a solid grasp of history and science and reading the news makes me "The knower of all things" LMFAOOOO 2 Quote
RSF Posted January 27 Posted January 27 On 1/26/2025 at 7:05 PM, halfmanhalfbronco said: That's the fucking point idioits like @Sactowndog @InnZoneU don't get. Trump is not god emperor of earth. Trump saying shit does not mean that retroactively the point was genocide or ethnic cleansing the entire time. Fucking god damn retards, both of them. @InnZoneU is so god damn dumb he can not FATHOM a man who is well read and researched in a variety of topics. Because that is just CRAAAAAZZZZYYYY right? In fact, having a solid grasp of history and science and reading the news makes me "The knower of all things" LMFAOOOO Gaslighter…. Quote
Spaztecs Posted January 27 Posted January 27 On 1/26/2025 at 3:13 PM, SalinasSpartan said: Right but the rule is that as long as you don’t call it ethnic cleansing, it’s not ethnic cleansing. It sounds like they're calling it gentrification Quote
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