Quickdraw Posted January 28 Posted January 28 This is no time for another throw it up against the wall and see what sticks hire. We aren’t beggars. The current staff just isn’t cutting it but I’d rather go into year 5 with them than commit to another 5 years with just some other guy because he isn’t this guy kind of hire. Enough of the insanity. Get together the money and make a great hire. 4 Quote
UNLV2001 Posted January 28 Author Posted January 28 On 1/28/2025 at 1:53 PM, Quickdraw said: This is no time for another throw it up against the wall and see what sticks hire. We aren’t beggars. The current staff just isn’t cutting it but I’d rather go into year 5 with them than commit to another 5 years with just some other guy because he isn’t this guy kind of hire. Enough of the insanity. Get together the money and make a great hire. Have to wonder if this spreading rumor of UNLV to the PAC might play into the UNLV BB coaching situation -- The PAC will be a better BB conference than the MWC by a decent amount with SDSU & Gonzaga being the headliners, but USU isn't a slouch and adding UNLV to the PAC brings potential 1 Quote
Quickdraw Posted January 28 Posted January 28 On 1/28/2025 at 2:00 PM, UNLV2001 said: Have to wonder if this spreading rumor of UNLV to the PAC might play into the UNLV BB coaching situation -- The PAC will be a better BB conference than the MWC byt a decent amount with SDSU & Gonzaga being the headliners, but USU isn't a slouch and adding UNLV to the PAC brings potential UNLV basketball needs to be fixed no matter what conference we are in for the next few years. A bigger concern would be where we are planning and working towards being after 2030. There is a bigger goal at hand and time is running out. The PAC is a better overall conference if that was the endgame but it isn’t. 2 Quote
UNLV2001 Posted January 28 Author Posted January 28 On 1/28/2025 at 2:30 PM, Quickdraw said: UNLV basketball needs to be fixed no matter what conference we are in for the next few years. A bigger concern would be where we are planning and working towards being after 2030. There is a bigger goal at hand and time is running out. The PAC is a better overall conference if that was the endgame but it isn’t. I agree - UNLV needs a fix regardless As for UNLV getting into a Power conference? That's more dream than reality & if there's another shake up at the highest levels then who knows what college sports will look like -- But there's little doubt the PAC will be the stronger BB conference out of the gate which would only help the UNLV BB program 1 Quote
RebelTexan Posted January 29 Posted January 29 On 1/28/2025 at 1:53 PM, Quickdraw said: This is no time for another throw it up against the wall and see what sticks hire. We aren’t beggars. The current staff just isn’t cutting it but I’d rather go into year 5 with them than commit to another 5 years with just some other guy because he isn’t this guy kind of hire. Enough of the insanity. Get together the money and make a great hire. Couldn't agree more. Either pay the money to make a homerun hire or just let Jr. coach out the rest of his contract. Cant do another reset with another first-timer or another mediocre Marv. We're 0-3 with these types since LK left. 2 Quote
Quickdraw Posted January 29 Posted January 29 On 1/28/2025 at 2:43 PM, UNLV2001 said: I agree - UNLV needs a fix regardless As for UNLV getting into a Power conference? That's more dream than reality & if there's another shake up at the highest levels then who knows what college sports will look like -- But there's little doubt the PAC will be the stronger BB conference out of the gate which would only help the UNLV BB program Who really knows how much of a dream or a reality it is? Either way the decisions made need to be focused on putting UNLV in the best possible position to succeed. It’s time to think about playing the long game instead of just following like sheep to the next marginally better conference. There shouldn’t be any hurry on giving up on those dreams. Making good decisions to put ourselves in a better position still leaves all options open. Money is usually the big motivation and with the deals that were made with the MWC we have time to be chill and continue building for a better future. Football is moving in a great direction. MBB needs good decisions made to get it heading in that same direction. Only thing lacking is the financial commitment. Harper and Whitley have a good handle on the Athletic Department. We do need to also make a commitment to Harper. He is the first AD in decades that actually “gets it”. 6 Quote
B_Lootz Posted January 29 Posted January 29 On 1/28/2025 at 3:43 PM, UNLV2001 said: I agree - UNLV needs a fix regardless As for UNLV getting into a Power conference? That's more dream than reality & if there's another shake up at the highest levels then who knows what college sports will look like -- But there's little doubt the PAC will be the stronger BB conference out of the gate which would only help the UNLV BB program I think being in a moderately stronger mid major conference won’t help us as much as some think. In fact, it’ll just make it that much more difficult to win and to consistently get a bid to the NCAAT. We came to rise as an elite power, and won a NC to boot, while a member of the Big West. While some may be dismissive of this and say that was over 30 years ago and things have changed, and they obviously have, but look at what other schools have done recently. Gonzaga became and has maintained being an elite program for 25 years, all while playing in the WCC. With the jump to the PAC, coupled with Few’s inevitable retire, and I’m very interested to see if they continue to win at the same clip. Wichita State’s best years under Marshall came not when they were in the AAC, but rather when they were in the Missouri Valley. The question is could Marshall have continued to be as successful with WSU in the AAC had they not fired him? SDSU has also been very successful all while playing in the lowly MW, even making it to the championship game just two years ago. Another school that is making the jump to the PAC and will have to deal with their successful HC retiring sooner rather than later. Do they continue their winning ways of the last 15 seasons once Dutcher retires and they go to the PAC? Houston’s resurgence to a national power under Sampson came not after they made the jump to the B12, but when they were in the AAC. The point being, I believe the success we want can be achieved while playing in the MW. The thing each of these examples have in common is not membership in a P5 conference, or even the best mid major conference as the PAC probably will be, but rather they all have/had phenomenal coaches that took their programs to great heights. If UNLV can ace this next hire, then we will be just fine regardless of conference affiliation. 3 Quote
4UNLV Posted January 29 Posted January 29 On 1/28/2025 at 8:15 PM, B_Lootz said: I think being in a moderately stronger mid major conference won’t help us as much as some think. In fact, it’ll just make it that much difficult to win and to consistently get a bid to the NCAAT. We came to become an elite power, and won a NC to boot, as part of the Big West. While some may be dismissive of this and say that was over 30 years ago and things have changed, and they obviously have, but look at what other schools have done recently. Gonzaga became and has maintained being an elite program for 25 years, all while playing in the WCC. With the jump to the PAC, coupled with Few’s inevitable retire, and I’m very interested to see if they continue to win at the same clip. Wichita State’s best years under Marshall came not when they were in the AAC, but rather when they were in the Missouri Valley. The question is could Marshall have continued to be as successful with WSU in the AAC had they not fired him? SDSU has also been very successful all while playing in the lowly MW, even making it to the championship game just two years ago. Another school that is making the jump to the PAC and will have to deal with their successful HC retiring sooner rather than later. Do they continue their winning ways of the last 15 seasons once Dutcher retires and they go to the PAC? Houston’s resurgence to a national power under Sampson came not when they made the jump to the B12, but when they were in the AAC. The point being, I believe the success we want can be achieved while playing in the MW. The thing each of these examples have in common is not membership in a P5 conference, or even the best mid major conference as the PAC probably will be, but rather they all have phenomenal coaches that took their programs to great heights. If UNLV can ace this next hire, then we will be just fine regardless of conference affiliation. Agree. Dave Rice had one thing right.. ‘UNLV transcends conference’. 😁 1 1 Quote
ph90702 Posted January 29 Posted January 29 On 1/28/2025 at 9:56 PM, 4UNLV said: Agree. Dave Rice had one thing right.. ‘UNLV transcends conference’. 😁 I wish Kevin Kruger acted like that rather than recruiting against loser schools for players. Quote
Rebels18 Posted January 29 Posted January 29 On 1/29/2025 at 9:06 AM, ph90702 said: I wish Kevin Kruger acted like that rather than recruiting against loser schools for players. Never thought I'd be agreeing with Dave Rice praise. Rice was an incompetent coach that held this program in the highest regard like it was Kentucky. Kruger is incompetent and acts like he's coaching at Cleveland State. The insults to the fanbase are gross, calling us 'special' with a sarcastic tone or this false narrative that we delusionally should be in the Final Four every year..dude we haven't been to the Dance in 14 years. Anyone ever have a job in sales or something that took some skill, and there was 'that guy' that fuggin' sucked and would bitch about how the company doesn't set its employees up for success or it was the service/products fault? Any excuse but taking accountability for themselves. Kevin Kruger is THAT guy. Nepotism at its finest. This administration gave him 5 YEARS. That's inexcusable. But this University has been celebrating mediocrity for decades because it's been run by mediocre people. There's no excuse UNLV Football got its shit together before UNLV Basketball. 4 Quote
Poster17 Posted January 29 Posted January 29 As much as I respect KK as a former player, his run as HC has been sad. Let him finish off the season then move on. As for the PAC talk, we'll listen to them if it makes the most financial sense. If exit and poaching fees from the PAC schools aren't given to the MWC then there's a chance of a movement there, but until then UNLV will position itself in the best financial position it can. And at this time that is in the MWC. 1 Quote
Qwelish Posted January 29 Posted January 29 On 1/27/2025 at 8:43 AM, VincentVegaBond2 said: I'd say the UNLV program is currently one of the most underachieving in the entire country and has been for awhile. We are not in a major conference with big TV income. However all the other advantages you mentioned should give us a HUGE advantage over most other schools in the western US. Even fans of our MW rivals openly admit it. It's really a disgrace what the program has turned into and should not be acceptable. With the tournament at the Mack. I don't think UNLV has even been to the finals. 1 Quote
B_Lootz Posted January 29 Posted January 29 On 1/29/2025 at 9:19 AM, Qwelish said: With the tournament at the Mack. I don't think UNLV has even been to the finals. Not since 2013, also our last year in the NCAAT. I only know because that was my senior year and I was there. Haven’t even sniffed the semis since then, either. Incredibly sad and pathetic in equal measure. 2 Quote
VincentVegaBond Posted January 29 Posted January 29 On 1/29/2025 at 8:19 AM, Qwelish said: With the tournament at the Mack. I don't think UNLV has even been to the finals. Last time UNLV even made it as far as the MW Championship was the 12-13 season, Dave Rice's 3rd year, where they lost to #15 New Mexico 56-63. That's a dozen years (if they don't make it this year) that they couldn't even sniff the conference title game on their home court. Truly embarrassing. 1 Quote
Aztec4Life1992 Posted January 29 Posted January 29 You guys are delusional. The power conferences are contracting, not expanding. The P2 will raid the ACC and then ditch the leftovers, including B12. No one is going to dilute their money pool to add a fball team that wins as often as Haley’s comet visits. Bball doesn’t move the needle at good schools and unlv isn’ta good school. 3 Quote
Quickdraw Posted January 29 Posted January 29 Great, another pissed off aztec who’s only joy in life is to try to tell other people that their program is shit…TOO. I don’t understand though as SDSU finally made it to their promised land of the PAC. There should be plenty of new shirts and hats selling at the student union soon. 1 Quote
B_Lootz Posted January 29 Posted January 29 On 1/29/2025 at 10:02 AM, Aztec4Life1992 said: You guys are delusional. The power conferences are contracting, not expanding. The P2 will raid the ACC and then ditch the leftovers, including B12. No one is going to dilute their money pool to add a fball team that wins as often as Haley’s comet visits. Bball doesn’t move the needle at good schools and unlv isn’ta good school. 2/10 Quote
MissionTrails Posted January 29 Posted January 29 On 1/29/2025 at 6:44 AM, Rebels18 said: Never thought I'd be agreeing with Dave Rice praise. Rice was an incompetent coach that held this program in the highest regard like it was Kentucky. Kruger is incompetent and acts like he's coaching at Cleveland State. The insults to the fanbase are gross, calling us 'special' with a sarcastic tone or this false narrative that we delusionally should be in the Final Four every year..dude we haven't been to the Dance in 14 years. Anyone ever have a job in sales or something that took some skill, and there was 'that guy' that fuggin' sucked and would bitch about how the company doesn't set its employees up for success or it was the service/products fault? Any excuse but taking accountability for themselves. Kevin Kruger is THAT guy. Nepotism at its finest. This administration gave him 5 YEARS. That's inexcusable. But this University has been celebrating mediocrity for decades because it's been run by mediocre people. There's no excuse UNLV Football got its shit together before UNLV Basketball. KK should start referring to his MW opponents as "Natty-less Peasants".* amirite? *Wyoming excepted Quote
Qwelish Posted January 29 Posted January 29 On 1/28/2025 at 2:00 PM, UNLV2001 said: Have to wonder if this spreading rumor of UNLV to the PAC might play into the UNLV BB coaching situation -- The PAC will be a better BB conference than the MWC by a decent amount with SDSU & Gonzaga being the headliners, but USU isn't a slouch and adding UNLV to the PAC brings potential Playing in a watered down conference may be a good thing for UNLV. I know noone likes to hear that, but it's a golden opportunity to get to the dance and build off of that. Especially with suds, aggies, zags going to water themselves down. Letting gcu or some other also-ran school dominate the conference with UNLV as the headliner, could set mbb back a good deal. But there is no excuse for that. The coach has to be able to dominate this new conference. Especially recruiting wise. I'm not certain with Kevin either way. But my leaning is toward doubt. Quote
Qwelish Posted January 29 Posted January 29 On 1/29/2025 at 11:52 AM, MissionTrails said: KK should start referring to his MW opponents as "Natty-less Peasants".* amirite? *Wyoming excepted Well... they are... soooo. Quote
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