retrofade Posted January 18 Posted January 18 https://www.wsj.com/politics/policy/trump-to-begin-large-scale-deportations-tuesday-e1bd89bd?mod=mhp It's behind a paywall, so I don't have a full story on it. I'm sure it'll be aggregated soon, though. Quote
thelawlorfaithful Posted January 18 Posted January 18 Chicago? Is this a dart board decision? 2 1 Quote
CSUProgressive Posted January 18 Posted January 18 This is exactly the kind of fear-based policy that creates more problems than it solves. Mass deportation raids don’t address the root causes of immigration, like economic instability or violence in migrants’ home countries—they just tear families apart and sow distrust in communities. If Trump’s administration really cared about fixing the immigration system, they’d focus on reforming it to expand legal pathways and provide support for asylum seekers. Instead, they resort to heavy-handed tactics that punish vulnerable people while ignoring the systemic issues driving migration. This kind of approach isn’t about solutions; it’s about political theater at the expense of human lives. 1 Quote
CSUProgressive Posted January 18 Posted January 18 On 1/17/2025 at 7:07 PM, thelawlorfaithful said: Chicago? Is this a dart board decision? It does seem random, but Chicago’s likely a symbolic target to grab headlines. These raids are more about optics than real solutions, and they only create fear without addressing the root issues in the immigration system. 2 1 Quote
Sactowndog Posted January 18 Posted January 18 On 1/17/2025 at 4:56 PM, retrofade said: https://www.wsj.com/politics/policy/trump-to-begin-large-scale-deportations-tuesday-e1bd89bd?mod=mhp It's behind a paywall, so I don't have a full story on it. I'm sure it'll be aggregated soon, though. Will it be people convicted of crimes or working immigrants? Also nice of them to promote it so the targets can get out of town. 1 Quote
SWspartan Posted January 18 Posted January 18 On 1/17/2025 at 4:56 PM, retrofade said: https://www.wsj.com/politics/policy/trump-to-begin-large-scale-deportations-tuesday-e1bd89bd?mod=mhp It's behind a paywall, so I don't have a full story on it. I'm sure it'll be aggregated soon, though. Expect rioting in Chicago on Wednesday and other areas around the country on Thursday and beyond. This shouldn't surprise anyone. Quote
InnZoneU Posted January 18 Posted January 18 Might as well get the shit show started early. If this does happen, it will be a complete disaster. Also not the best of idea to tell people in advance that yer coming. 1 Quote
Sactowndog Posted January 18 Posted January 18 On 1/18/2025 at 2:38 AM, SWspartan said: Expect rioting in Chicago on Wednesday and other areas around the country on Thursday and beyond. This shouldn't surprise anyone. I think it depends on whom he deports. People convicted of crimes it will be a collective shrug. Heads of families with children is another matter. we shall see Quote
FresnoFacts Posted January 18 Posted January 18 I am interested in seeing the collateral impacts and reactions to these operations. I think we will see more than just roundups of "bad guys". And the impacts may be far ranging. Border Patrol two weeks ago ran a sweep around Bakersfield. BP sent 60 officers to Kern County from Imperial County offices and said they arrested 78 people including some felons. But BP also admits they identified and arrested others only because they were in the country illegally. All arrested were transported to El Centro on the border for detention. The operation rippled through the Kern County and Valley economy for several days in other ways. Some media quotes: "About 30% of employees at Bakersfield-based Illume Agriculture stayed home Wednesday, and the company's expectations were that the percentage would rise to 50% Thursday as the sweep continues to spread fear among immigrant workers, Senior Vice President Kevin Andrew said." "A representative of homebuilder K. Hovnanian showed up to Wednesday evening's meeting of Bakersfield City Council looking for information about why only eight of 30 framers scheduled to work Wednesday actually showed up to work. "A lot of people were calling me, 'Hey, is it safe to go out there?'" Hovnanian supervisor Frank Munoz said. The worker shortage threatens to double the amount of time the framing jobs take, with any delays ultimately impacting customers, he added." "[Nisei Farmers League President Manual] Cunha said he took calls from two farmers on Wednesday saying their entire work crews did not show up for work because they were afraid of getting swept up in the Border Patrol operations." I don't think all of those job no-shows were necessarily undocumented themselves. They may just have strong connections to someone who is. Maybe they have children with someone who is undocumented and stayed home so the family would not be separated. Maybe another family member is undocumented. There could be multiple reasons. I suspect we will see people and economic ripples beyond just deporting "bad people" as we are currently being told is the plan. Both parties have used immigration and the border as a way to score points with their bases. But they have also treated the issue as another third rail not to touch and really solve for decades. Maybe it will be the unexpected impacts from large scale arrests to the economy and to average Americans that will pressure our politicians to finally start dealing with legal immigration, DACA, temporary work visas, the border, etc. We'll see. 3 1 Quote
RSF Posted January 18 Posted January 18 On 1/18/2025 at 11:14 AM, NorCalCoug said: Calm down. They’re not coming for you yet. Quote
NorCalCoug Posted January 18 Posted January 18 On 1/18/2025 at 12:48 PM, RSF said: Calm down. They’re not coming for you yet. I don’t have a criminal background…. Not worried. Quote
Posturedoc Posted January 18 Posted January 18 On 1/18/2025 at 12:42 PM, NorCalCoug said: I don’t have a criminal background…. Not worried. Well, 90% of your posting content is criminally stupid (ancient memes you’ve already posted ~5000 times) so maybe you should be worried. 1 2 2 3 Quote
NorCalCoug Posted January 18 Posted January 18 On 1/18/2025 at 1:54 PM, Posturedoc said: Well, 90% of your posting content is criminally stupid (ancient memes you’ve already posted ~5000 times) so maybe you should be worried. You only have 4 more years of it - unless Trump declares himself dictator and hands control over to his son as predicted on this board. Talk about criminally stupid…. Quote
Posturedoc Posted January 18 Posted January 18 On 1/18/2025 at 1:00 PM, NorCalCoug said: You only have 4 more years of it - unless Trump declares himself dictator and hands control over to his son as predicted on this board. Talk about criminally stupid…. If being a dullard poster is what gets you off, by all means, do you. 1 Quote
NorCalCoug Posted January 18 Posted January 18 On 1/18/2025 at 2:06 PM, Posturedoc said: If being a dullard poster is what gets you off, by all means, do you. If mental illness and rage gets you off you do you as well Quote
SalinasSpartan Posted January 18 Posted January 18 I’ve always heard of immigration raids being on individual businesses where they scoop up employees. What does it mean to raid a city? Quote
CSUProgressive Posted January 18 Posted January 18 On 1/17/2025 at 8:49 PM, Sactowndog said: Will it be people convicted of crimes or working immigrants? Also nice of them to promote it so the targets can get out of town It’s a fair question, but let’s not kid ourselves—mass deportation efforts like this rarely distinguish effectively between people convicted of crimes and hardworking immigrants contributing to their communities. These operations are more about optics and fear-mongering than meaningful enforcement. And you’re right, announcing it ahead of time seems more like political theater than an actual strategy. It doesn’t solve the real issues with our immigration system; it just perpetuates chaos and uncertainty for those already living in the shadows. 1 Quote
Sactowndog Posted January 19 Posted January 19 On 1/18/2025 at 3:33 PM, CSUProgressive said: It’s a fair question, but let’s not kid ourselves—mass deportation efforts like this rarely distinguish effectively between people convicted of crimes and hardworking immigrants contributing to their communities. These operations are more about optics and fear-mongering than meaningful enforcement. And you’re right, announcing it ahead of time seems more like political theater than an actual strategy. It doesn’t solve the real issues with our immigration system; it just perpetuates chaos and uncertainty for those already living in the shadows. Always all about show for Trump. He makes money, the enterprise goes bankrupt, and others are left holding the bag. 1 Quote
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