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On 1/18/2025 at 6:38 PM, RSF said:

When I came home from college after my freshman year, he was spending all his time in bed and subsisting on cigarettes and coffee. In his case, the signs weren’t subtle.  He wasn’t listening to my mom, so it fell to me to convince him it was time to go to the hospital. It took 2 separate trips, but by the time I headed back to Texas, he was at least on a better path. I considered dropping out and going to the junior college for a while, but ironically it was him who convinced me not to.  So I’ve always been my parents’ keeper. 

I’m sorry you had to deal with that. God bless you. 

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On 1/17/2025 at 10:55 AM, Jim said:

Full disclosue, this is a sock.  The mods will know who this is, all I would ask is if they aren't ok with it to delete the thread rather than disclose who it is.

It would be helpful to me to hear other people's perspective on dealing with this.  I have someone close to me who is having severe anxiety and paranoia disorder.  I want to see how the thread goes before I talk about the exact situation too much.

In my situation, the person is convinced their real and imagined enemies are collaborating to sue them for everything they have, and to destroy their reputation.  It's not true, and not rational.  It's a tough thing to help someone with though, because they need someone to listen, but you don't want to validate their conspiracy theories and encourage them to go down rabbit holes.

The person is on medication (Zolof) and in therapy, which is mitigating the panic attacks, but not the overall anxiety and depression.  Medication was just started a couple weeks ago, so it's early days there.  

We can't control other people's thoughts and behavior. So it's important to keep an open mind.

Have you looked into asset protection structures at all such as trusts or life insurance products? It's sounds like your family member would be a good candidate, regardless of the medical outcome. Wyoming, Nevada, and South Dakota are all excellent domestic asset protection jurisdictions. 

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On 1/17/2025 at 10:00 PM, Jim said:

Thank you for this.

I may take you up on the DM offer.

One thing that's really hard to watch, is the puzzle creation obsession.  They will take a conversation from three years ago, along with random event involving the same person 6 months ago, and a third event or conversation with that person and someone else a week ago, and twist the perception of it to form a puzzle that fits together to equal the life destroying lawsuit.  They feel better while they are explaining the puzzle, but after an hour or two of telling the story and feeling like they've solved the mystery, we are no better off than before it started.  In fact they are in a worse place.  The next day its a new puzzle, or a new version of the previous puzzle.  Over and over, and they can't help themselves but to keep putting puzzles together.

Did you ever have a moment where you snapped back and felt like yourself again?  Or is it not like that.  Something where you are in a better place, but not the same person you were before?  Maybe not worse than before the diagnosis, but not the same either, if you know what I mean.

Just making a public note here so I don't forget that I'll get back to you on this hopefully tomorrow. 

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On 1/19/2025 at 1:18 PM, CoachKenFTW said:

We can't control other people's thoughts and behavior. So it's important to keep an open mind.

Have you looked into asset protection structures at all such as trusts or life insurance products? It's sounds like your family member would be a good candidate, regardless of the medical outcome. Wyoming, Nevada, and South Dakota are all excellent domestic asset protection jurisdictions. 

That is extremely complicated in my situation.  It's a valid point you make, and a concern I have.  I'd prefer not to go into that issue here.

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On 1/17/2025 at 10:00 PM, Jim said:

Thank you for this.

I may take you up on the DM offer.

One thing that's really hard to watch, is the puzzle creation obsession.  They will take a conversation from three years ago, along with random event involving the same person 6 months ago, and a third event or conversation with that person and someone else a week ago, and twist the perception of it to form a puzzle that fits together to equal the life destroying lawsuit.  They feel better while they are explaining the puzzle, but after an hour or two of telling the story and feeling like they've solved the mystery, we are no better off than before it started.  In fact they are in a worse place.  The next day its a new puzzle, or a new version of the previous puzzle.  Over and over, and they can't help themselves but to keep putting puzzles together.

Did you ever have a moment where you snapped back and felt like yourself again?  Or is it not like that.  Something where you are in a better place, but not the same person you were before?  Maybe not worse than before the diagnosis, but not the same either, if you know what I mean.

Sometimes, I disassociate, especially if I'm working on figuring something complicated out. I tend not to put many puzzle pieces together like that because I usually have enough of my rational brain still functioning, and I know that correlation doesn't mean causation. I'm aware of things enough that I know not to go down rabbit holes that will end up being self-fulfilling. That comes with knowledge and acceptance and the realization that my brain doesn't necessarily function like other people do.

That doesn't mean that my brain is "broken," just that it works differently... that same ability to put irrational puzzles together and find meaning where there isn't any is a strength when channeled appropriately. It's how I solve problems professionally because my brain works differently. The biggest thing for me was coming to terms with the fact that there's nothing "wrong" with me per se; I just had to be hyper-aware not to let it go too far. I also like asking friends to sanity check the things I'm working on because I've been known to think that I've made some grand epiphany only to realize that it's not anything, but my brain wanted it to be. 

That last part kinda goes with the crux of your last question. I haven't "snapped" back, but over time and with a lot of self-realization and introspection, I've forced myself to creative ways to manage things. It doesn't work for everyone, but I also probably have a far more mild and much more highly functioning spot on the spectrum than other people do. 

I realize a lot of that was rambling. I'm sorry I've been distracted by work. I didn't want to forget about this. Hopefully, it's helpful. 

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