Trump Started SoCal Fires

[smltwnrckr]

On 1/9/2025 at 9:13 AM, mugtang said:

I know you’re not being serious but it’s depressing people actually believe this. 

Say what you will about Newsom and the CA Democrats, but the last thing they need to be dedicating any time and effort to right now is explaining in detail why state water used for industrial agriculture and suburban residential toilets doesn't have much to do with fire prevention and why forest management is irrelevant to fires in places that are not forests. 

[smltwnrckr]

On 1/9/2025 at 9:15 AM, Fowl said:

It's comical reading not only Trump's comments but all of the other loons on twitter like Musk, et al commenting about the CA water system, LAFD budget cuts, and other stupidity that they have absolutely zero knowledge of.  

comical is not the word I'd use.

[SDSUfan]

Water policy isn't necessarily the issue.  The real problem is land use regulations mandating open space, preservation of natural habitat and wildlife corridors.  To the uninitiated, wildlife corridors require that an animal such as a deer or mountain lion can range freely between the coast and the inland mountains unabated by man-made obstacles.  Wildlife corridors turn into wildFIRE corridors under the right conditions.  We've seen it over and over.

The areas adjacent these open spaces and corridors are highly desirable, attracting many wealthy residents.  The Palisades, abuting the ocean and isolated by designated open space is a prime example of this paradigm.

Many of the homes there were built prior to most modern code restrictions.  My brother built his home in the East County ( Alpine) about a decade ago.  Steel frame construction, 2" high pressure fire suppression systems throughout, closed eaves, concrete roof tiles and landscaping to include brush mitigation were all part of the set of regulations he had comply to.

This has nothing to do with TEH WARMMMING and everything to do with the same old urban/wildland interface that has been a problem since we started building cities in the coastal sage, which receives roughly 9"/yr rainfall and is tinder dry for about eight months/yr.

 

[Soupslam]

They need to pave the whole fucking state. It would alleviate wild fires and traffic congestion at the same time. 

[CPslograd]

On 1/8/2025 at 7:39 PM, Dogs4Me said:

He must be impeached.

I can't blame him for this.

But.....

Would you care to explain his threats to invade Greenland?😁

[Dogs4Me]

On 1/11/2025 at 1:15 AM, CPslograd said:

I can't blame him for this.

But.....

Would you care to explain his threats to invade Greenland?😁

Oh, I will translate: give us your ice, LA is burning.

That was all I could muster today.

[Spaztecs]

On 1/8/2025 at 11:29 PM, smltwnrckr said:

Newsom is meh, but his governing as it pertains to water and forest management has nothing to do with fires in the southern California coastal mountains. Nothing at all. Trump might as well blame Jewish space lasers. 

The media spreads his disinfo and the base believes it.

It's not that hard.

[Spaztecs]

On 1/9/2025 at 6:03 AM, azgreg said:

 

 

Trump leaning media will never publish or air this. Only Trumps viewpoint.

I saw this coming when the Reagan Admin forced the FCC to drop the Fairness Doctrine.

[Spaztecs]

On 1/9/2025 at 8:06 AM, CV147 said:

I think the fires in South California have been occurring for tens of thousands of years. They weren't going to stop just because people moved into the area.

That said, global warming likely has made them worse. Also making them worse is the bureaucracy and environmental regulations that make prescribed burns difficult to perform.

It can take more than 7 years for a prescribed burn to be approved, which is sometimes longer than the natural fire cycle.

So—politicians didn't start the fire, but they aren't helping prevent them.

 

As a kid growing up in SoCal, we always had wildfires. Human caused and natural. The difference being they used to occur in unpopulated areas. Now, those areas are populated.

[Spaztecs]

On 1/9/2025 at 10:15 AM, Fowl said:

It's comical reading not only Trump's comments but all of the other loons on twitter like Musk, et al commenting about the CA water system, LAFD budget cuts, and other stupidity that they have absolutely zero knowledge of.  

The Electorate hears it and we live in an era where we desperately want  people like Musk and Trump to solve our problems.

Mission accomplished 

[GregoryPierreTolkien]

LOL! At this point, the left probably thinks Trump controls the weather too. Fires in California? Must be Trump’s fault! 🙄 Maybe they should focus on their failed forest management and energy policies instead of screaming 'impeach' every five minutes. Absolute clown show.

[Spaztecs]

On 1/11/2025 at 2:15 AM, CPslograd said:

I can't blame him for this.

But.....

Would you care to explain his threats to invade Greenland?😁

Since our current inefficient use of fossil fuels is melting the ice caps and making it more difficult to grow food where we have for millennia. And we won't be able to extract fossil fuels from where we do now because we can't grow food there either, we need Greenland and Canada so we can continue to grow food and extract from fossil fuels there.

All this, so the Oligarchs can maintain their cash flow and improve their lifestyles.

[renoskier]

On 1/9/2025 at 1:53 PM, SDSUfan said:

Water policy isn't necessarily the issue.  The real problem is land use regulations mandating open space, preservation of natural habitat and wildlife corridors.  To the uninitiated, wildlife corridors require that an animal such as a deer or mountain lion can range freely between the coast and the inland mountains unabated by man-made obstacles.  Wildlife corridors turn into wildFIRE corridors under the right conditions.  We've seen it over and over.

The areas adjacent these open spaces and corridors are highly desirable, attracting many wealthy residents.  The Palisades, abuting the ocean and isolated by designated open space is a prime example of this paradigm.

Many of the homes there were built prior to most modern code restrictions.  My brother built his home in the East County ( Alpine) about a decade ago.  Steel frame construction, 2" high pressure fire suppression systems throughout, closed eaves, concrete roof tiles and landscaping to include brush mitigation were all part of the set of regulations he had comply to.

This has nothing to do with TEH WARMMMING and everything to do with the same old urban/wildland interface that has been a problem since we started building cities in the coastal sage, which receives roughly 9"/yr rainfall and is tinder dry for about eight months/yr.

 

and then people scream bloody murder about over regulation of the building codes making housing too expensive...

can't fucking win

[InnZoneU]

On 1/11/2025 at 11:39 AM, renoskier said:

and then people scream bloody murder about over regulation of the building codes making housing too expensive...

can't fucking win

Making muh make muh home fire safe is some libtard bullshit.  I'll do what I want with muh home. 

Why isn't the gov't here to save me when that all goes wrong?  Libtards are to blame.  Not myself.

[415hawaiiboy 2.0]

On 1/11/2025 at 9:42 AM, Spaztecs said:

Since our current inefficient use of fossil fuels is melting the ice caps and making it more difficult to grow food where we have for millennia. And we won't be able to extract fossil fuels from where we do now because we can't grow food there either, we need Greenland and Canada so we can continue to grow food and extract from fossil fuels there.

All this, so the Oligarchs can maintain their cash flow and improve their lifestyles.

My friend met a Canadian at a hostel in Australia and he was a farmer in Saskatoon Provence.  He visited SF during the holidays.  If the viable agriculture belt moves north then yes obviously places like his province will benefit.  
 

Asked him how many steps he takes a day on average and it was 26,000.  He’s a farmer.  I was impressed.  

[Spaztecs]

 

https://youtube.com/shorts/Uxu9YCQkpco?si=L3UPozgVbMB5qiY6

[Spaztecs]

On 1/11/2025 at 10:36 AM, GregoryPierreTolkien said:

LOL! At this point, the left probably thinks Trump controls the weather too. Fires in California? Must be Trump’s fault! 🙄 Maybe they should focus on their failed forest management and energy policies instead of screaming 'impeach' every five minutes. Absolute clown show.

https://youtube.com/shorts/Uxu9YCQkpco?si=tw-LAgBGetuKTk-4

[BoneYardNIU]

Can't spell DonAld TRump without TARD.

[azgreg]

That would have ended any normal campaign.