UNLV at Boise State

[Buttermaker]

On 1/7/2025 at 10:17 PM, SDSUfan said:

How many times did Cardenas have the ball in his hand and the defender was 6' off of him. Dude had all day to make a decision.   UNLV simply doesn't have any idea of how to play defense.  Call me a FORMER KK defender. His nickel is up. 

I was going to ask if unlv even played D but didn't want to be mean...haha

[roughrider]

On 1/8/2025 at 10:55 AM, SDSUfan said:

La historia de dos Álvaros

 

 

It's actually pretty simple.  If you're not a team full of NBA prospects,  YOU NEED TO PLAY FUCKING DEFENSE

9 Assists. 0 Turnovers.

It's almost like Kruger didn't watch that game film.  That or he decided not to share it with the team.

[VincentVegaBond2]

On 1/8/2025 at 11:32 AM, Jersey Rebels said:

Yes you can. Some people have it, some people don’t. You can tell if you look. 

Disagree with that. At that point in time nobody had any idea how Kruger was going to recruit, how much Lon was going to help him (turns out not much), the types of assistants he was going to bring in, his retention of players and assistants, etc. I agree he's proven to be a mediocre coach but any reasonable person would give him at least a few years to show what he had.

[Jersey Rebels]

On 1/8/2025 at 2:58 PM, VincentVegaBond2 said:

Disagree with that. At that point in time nobody had any idea how Kruger was going to recruit, how much Lon was going to help him (turns out not much), the types of assistants he was going to bring in, his retention of players and assistants, etc. I agree he's proven to be a mediocre coach but any reasonable person would give him at least a few years to show what he had.

Except you didn't need a few years, that's the point. College game is different now. You get one year then your team is basically new again. 

 

I say he sucks after 10 games. You give him four years and he proves that he sucks. I wasn't wrong after 10 games. Some people have it, some people don't. It was clear he didn't from the start. Not that he should have been fired after one year, but he doesn't have it and never did. 

[SleepingGiantFan]

On 1/7/2025 at 10:46 PM, UNLV2001 said:

UNLV is now 9-0 against teams outside the top 150 in the KenPom ratings, beating up on opponents with an average ranking of No. 235. Conversely, the Scarlet and Gray have played six teams inside the top 60 and have lost every game, going 0-6 against teams with an average ranking of No. 41.

Yup. Soft as new-born baby's butt.

However, you guys keep turning over coaches and how much has that helped? Conclusion I draw is that it has to be something else besides coaching that's a problem. Incompetent athletic directors doing the hiring perhaps?

[SDSUfan]

On 1/8/2025 at 1:52 PM, SleepingGiantFan said:

Yup. Soft as new-born baby's butt.

However, you guys keep turning over coaches and how much has that helped? Conclusion I draw is that it has to be something else besides coaching that's a problem. Incompetent athletic directors doing the hiring perhaps?

 

They can forward the finders fee to me.

[UNLV2001]

On 1/8/2025 at 1:52 PM, SleepingGiantFan said:

Yup. Soft as new-born baby's butt.

However, you guys keep turning over coaching and how much has your program improved? Conclusion I draw is that has to be something else besides coaching that's a problem. Incompetent athletic directors who make the hires perhaps?

UNLV AD's have been a disaster for the better part of a decade .........Tina Kunzer-Murphy (TKM) & Desiree Reed-Francois (DRF) were two disasters ...........They ran from 2013 until 2022 when DRF left -- They burnt through:

Dave Rice - Who was ousted midseason by TKM & some booster pressure, who had a 98-54 record & NBA talent

Todd Simon - Finished the season after Rice was let go, going 9-8

Chris Beard  - hiring debacle, who bailed on UNLV for Texas Tech less than 14 days after accepting UNLV job

Marvin Menzies - Hired after Beard bailed & was shown the door after going 48-48, of which his 1st season was a cobbled together roster, then quickly shown the door by DRF 

TJ Otzelberger - DRF's darling hire, who like DRF herself, had one foot out the door when he came in. TJO hired away to Iowa St despite a 29-30 record at UNLV 

Kevin Kruger - Assistant on TJO's staff & moved up by DRF , then DRF bailed 

So 5 of the 13 head coaches in UNLV history were in the TKM DRF era ---- And of this you could toss out the three coaches who came & went in the one disastrous year following the Rollie Massimino mistake when Tim Grgurich was hired as the "the saviour" from the Tarkanian era who freaked out seven games into the 1995 season and stepped away and left the season to Cleveland Edwards & Howie Landa who coached the remaining 21 games 

So toss out the 1995 clown show season and TKM / DRF burned thru 50% of UNLV's head coaches in their decade of mismanagement & bungling 

So in reality, UNLV needs to get the damage done by TKM & DRF behind the program and attempt to restore some semblance of what once was 

 

[Qwelish]

On 1/8/2025 at 1:52 PM, SleepingGiantFan said:

Yup. Soft as new-born baby's butt.

However, you guys keep turning over coaches and how much has that helped? Conclusion I draw is that it has to be something else besides coaching that's a problem. Incompetent athletic directors doing the hiring perhaps?

 

Hope this helps.

[Qwelish]

On 1/8/2025 at 2:15 PM, UNLV2001 said:

UNLV AD's have been a disaster for the better part of a decade .........Tina Kunzer-Murphy (TKM) & Desiree Reed-Francois (DRF) were two disasters ...........They ran from 2013 until 2022 when DRF left -- They burnt through:

Dave Rice - Who was ousted midseason by TKM & some booster pressure, who had a 98-54 record & NBA talent

Todd Simon - Finished the season after Rice was let go, going 9-8

Chris Beard  - hiring debacle, who bailed on UNLV for Texas Tech less than 14 days after accepting UNLV job

Marvin Menzies - Hired after Beard bailed & was shown the door after going 48-48, of which his 1st season was a cobbled together roster, then quickly shown the door by DRF 

TJ Otzelberger - DRF's darling hire, who like DRF herself, had one foot out the door when he came in. TJO hired away to Iowa St despite a 29-30 record at UNLV 

Kevin Kruger - Assistant on TJO's staff & moved up by DRF , then DRF bailed 

So 5 of the 13 head coaches in UNLV history were in the TKM DRF era ---- And of this you could toss out the three coaches who came & went in the one disastrous year following the Rollie Massimino mistake when Tim Grgurich was hired as the "the saviour" from the Tarkanian era who freaked out seven games into the 1995 season and stepped away and left the season to Cleveland Edwards & Howie Landa who coached the remaining 21 games 

So toss out the 1995 clown show season and TKM / DRF burned thru 50% of UNLV's head coaches in their decade of mismanagement & bungling 

So in reality, UNLV needs to get the damage done by TKM & DRF behind the program and attempt to restore some semblance of what once was 

 

Spot on.

Please keep the LADIIIIEEEEEES away from our beloved basketball program. 

No offense. 

[UNLV2001]

Since 1970 there have been 17 "head coaches" at UNLV from long term to two guys who 'coached" seven games 

Currently Kevin Kruger sits in 5th place of 17 in games coached with 113 games -- KK is 119 games behind Lon Kruger who's 2nd on the list 

 

[Qwelish]

On 1/8/2025 at 1:52 PM, SleepingGiantFan said:

Yup. Soft as new-born baby's butt.

However, you guys keep turning over coaches and how much has that helped? Conclusion I draw is that it has to be something else besides coaching that's a problem. Incompetent athletic directors doing the hiring perhaps?

The athletic director who hired the last two UNLV football coaches, has yet to fire or hire a basketball coach at UNLV.

Mworst... prepare thine sphincters!!!!

[UNLV2001]

On 1/8/2025 at 2:33 PM, Qwelish said:

The athletic director who hired the last two UNLV football coaches, has yet to fire or hire a basketball coach at UNLV.

Mworst... prepare thine sphincters!!!!

Think for the first time in a decade + that UNLV finally has a decent Athletic Director -- And after the way FB has turned the corner I think he can see that MBB needs some serious work ......... so in light of the changes in college sports & the sudden surge in FB interest that he might not wait too long to address the MBB issues 

Plus factor in if Vegas lands an NBA team, then the MBB climb back to market share & 'care' could be much tougher 

[Bigd]

On 1/8/2025 at 2:15 PM, UNLV2001 said:

UNLV AD's have been a disaster for the better part of a decade .........Tina Kunzer-Murphy (TKM) & Desiree Reed-Francois (DRF) were two disasters ...........They ran from 2013 until 2022 when DRF left -- They burnt through:

Dave Rice - Who was ousted midseason by TKM & some booster pressure, who had a 98-54 record & NBA talent

Todd Simon - Finished the season after Rice was let go, going 9-8

Chris Beard  - hiring debacle, who bailed on UNLV for Texas Tech less than 14 days after accepting UNLV job

Marvin Menzies - Hired after Beard bailed & was shown the door after going 48-48, of which his 1st season was a cobbled together roster, then quickly shown the door by DRF 

TJ Otzelberger - DRF's darling hire, who like DRF herself, had one foot out the door when he came in. TJO hired away to Iowa St despite a 29-30 record at UNLV 

Kevin Kruger - Assistant on TJO's staff & moved up by DRF , then DRF bailed 

So 5 of the 13 head coaches in UNLV history were in the TKM DRF era ---- And of this you could toss out the three coaches who came & went in the one disastrous year following the Rollie Massimino mistake when Tim Grgurich was hired as the "the saviour" from the Tarkanian era who freaked out seven games into the 1995 season and stepped away and left the season to Cleveland Edwards & Howie Landa who coached the remaining 21 games 

So toss out the 1995 clown show season and TKM / DRF burned thru 50% of UNLV's head coaches in their decade of mismanagement & bungling 

So in reality, UNLV needs to get the damage done by TKM & DRF behind the program and attempt to restore some semblance of what once was 

 

Maybe a bigger concern is that both Otzelberger and Menzies have been very successful at every other stop. 

Perhaps the coaches themselves aren't the issue, but it's a bigger institutional problem at this point?

[UNLV2001]

On 1/8/2025 at 3:20 PM, Bigd said:

Maybe a bigger concern is that both Otzelberger and Menzies have been very successful at every other stop. 

Perhaps the coaches themselves aren't the issue, but it's a bigger institutional problem at this point?

It was institutional with respects to the the previous two AD's - They were horrible 

As far as UNLV goes, the Rebels have all the infrastructure they need to get a winner in here -- Few other MWC programs can match what UNLV has 

That said, it's not like UNLV has suffered from major losing seasons like some other MWC programs have had over the years 

UNLV has had FIVE losing seasons since 1972/73 but two have come since 2019/20 due to coaching changes from incompetent AD's 

[UNLV2001]

Losing seasons as MWC BB programs

Air Force 18 of 25 seasons (.720) 1999/00

Wyoming 10 of 25 (.400) 1999/00

San Jose St 10 of 11 (.909) 2013/14

Colorado St 8 of 25 (.320) 1999/00

New Mexico 6 of 25 (.240) 1999/00

Fresno St 4 of 12 (.333) 2012/13

SDSU 3 of 25 (.120) 1999/00

Nevada 3 of 12 (.250) 2012/13

UNLV 2 of 25 (.080) 1999/00

BSU 2 of 13 (.154) 2011/12

USU 1 of 11 (0.91) 2013/14

 

[Rebelcuff]

Kevin is definitely gone because this is the 4th year of a 5 year contract. It's either give him an extension or fire him and he isn't getting an extension. Just wait to the day after the mwc tournament and politely fire him.

[VincentVegaBond]

They are busting out the lube and anal beads along with the well worn picture of Dave Rice over on Rice Net. Always amusing to head over there and witness their intense Rice worshipping over a decade after he left.

Mind you, this for a coach who took Lon's rock solid program and nuked it to smithereens, never came close to winning an NCAA game and whose teams got progressively worse each season, yet is straight up worshipped as a deity over there simply cuz he was a nice guy and made them feel important and like they were his friends.

Downright peculiar and I'm pretty certain group fascination like that has never existed to that extent anywhere else.

This gem is my favorite, lol... 

[VincentVegaBond]

On 1/8/2025 at 3:20 PM, Bigd said:

Maybe a bigger concern is that both Otzelberger and Menzies have been very successful at every other stop. 

Perhaps the coaches themselves aren't the issue, but it's a bigger institutional problem at this point?

I wouldn't go that far for Marv, it took him 3 years to find another HC job and now he's at a middling Summit League team.

As for TJ, he was butt buddies with the AD over at ISU and his hiring there was preordained, but he has sadly done a fantastic job there much unlike his insulting performance at UNLV.

[VincentVegaBond]

On 1/8/2025 at 2:40 PM, UNLV2001 said:

Think for the first time in a decade + that UNLV finally has a decent Athletic Director -- And after the way FB has turned the corner I think he can see that MBB needs some serious work ......... so in light of the changes in college sports & the sudden surge in FB interest that he might not wait too long to address the MBB issues 

Plus factor in if Vegas lands an NBA team, then the MBB climb back to market share & 'care' could be much tougher 

Harper has gotten the job done big time in football but basketball is an entirely different story. I'm optimistic he will do well but is still a complete unknown in that domain at this time.

He can't do any worse than the incompetent clowns he replaced (neither could you or I even if we tried) but we should all be nervous, even with Harper, based on our abysmal history with UNLV basketball.

[UNLV2001]

On 1/8/2025 at 4:09 PM, VincentVegaBond said:

They are busting out the lube and anal beads along with the well worn picture of Dave Rice over on Rice Net. Always amusing to head over there and witness their intense Rice worshipping over a decade after he left.

Mind you, this for a coach who took Lon's rock solid program and nuked it to smithereens, never came close to winning an NCAA game and whose teams got progressively worse each season, yet is straight up worshipped as a deity over there simply cuz he was a nice guy and made them feel important and like they were his friends.

Downright peculiar and I'm pretty certain group fascination like that has never existed to that extent anywhere else.

This gem is my favorite, lol... 

There's a guy on X ( Robbie Hutton ) posting about Augmon taking the HC job -- These people can't get over the Tark years and have to have some tie back to the Tark era 

UNLV did that when they ousted Rollie Massimino and the gang of $$ boosters anointed Tim Grgurich as the saviour but sadly Grg wasn't cut out for "head" coach & walked away seven games into the 1995/96 season and left Cle Edwards & Howie Landa to finish up that season 

Then Bayno came in for 96/97

Not sure if the big $$ boosters are still around........imagine the boosters from the Tark era have passed on.........so not sure what the 'insider / booster' situation is and if they even have any input like they used to ..........but with NIL, these deep pockets are needed !