Jan. 6, 2025

[thehowlin]

On 1/6/2025 at 12:44 PM, AztecAlien said:

Conveniently left out and forgotten. 

"walk down to the Capitol" to "cheer on our brave senators and congressmen and women."

"peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard." 

He also urged his supporters to be peaceful and maintain "law and order."

"Please support our Capitol Police and Law Enforcement," he tweeted. "They are truly on the side of our Country. Stay peaceful!" 

 

 

Also conveniently left out:

Trump’s speech included inflammatory language like “fight like hell” and false claims that the election was stolen. 

The phrase “peacefully and patriotically” was an isolated remark in a broader speech urging defiance.

Despite a few mentions of peace, Trump directed the crowd toward the Capitol after priming them with claims of fraud and a call to "stop the steal."

After the violence began, Trump did nothing to stop the violence for 3 hours. His calls to “support Capitol Police” were contradicted by his refusal to condemn the violence as it unfolded. If he genuinely sought peace he would have immediately condemned the violence and deployed resources to quell the violence rather than delaying action until after it was clear it wasn’t going to change anything.

“Peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard."  A single call for peace is overshadowed by the broader tone of his speech that day, which emphasized anger, fraud, and "fighting like hell." Again, his inaction when the violence started demonstrates his statements for peace were performative rather than sincere.

“He also urged his supporters to be peaceful and maintain ‘law and order.’” Law and order were undermined by Trump’s refusal to act swiftly as violence erupted. Tweets calling for calm came late and lacked any sense of urgency. His condemnation of Mike Pence during the riot further inflamed the situation, showing disregard for law and order.

“He told supporters to cheer on Congress peacefully” The instruction to cheer was paired with rhetoric casting Congress as complicit in a fraudulent election. This duality gave supporters a pretext to escalate their actions. 

Finally, you can’t isolate Trump’s words and actions on January 6th from the broader campaign he orchestrated to delegitimize the election and rile his supporters, priming them for violence. 

[FresnoFacts]

Mike Pence today -

".....I welcome the return of order and civility to these historic proceedings...."

"....it being particularly admirable that Vice President Harris would preside over the certification of a presidential election that she lost....."

 

[AztecAlien]

On 1/6/2025 at 2:15 PM, thehowlin said:

Also conveniently left out:

Trump’s speech included inflammatory language like “fight like hell” and false claims that the election was stolen. 

The phrase “peacefully and patriotically” was an isolated remark in a broader speech urging defiance.

Despite a few mentions of peace, Trump directed the crowd toward the Capitol after priming them with claims of fraud and a call to "stop the steal."

After the violence began, Trump did nothing to stop the violence for 3 hours. His calls to “support Capitol Police” were contradicted by his refusal to condemn the violence as it unfolded. If he genuinely sought peace he would have immediately condemned the violence and deployed resources to quell the violence rather than delaying action until after it was clear it wasn’t going to change anything.

“Peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard."  A single call for peace is overshadowed by the broader tone of his speech that day, which emphasized anger, fraud, and "fighting like hell." Again, his inaction when the violence started demonstrates his statements for peace were performative rather than sincere.

“He also urged his supporters to be peaceful and maintain ‘law and order.’” Law and order were undermined by Trump’s refusal to act swiftly as violence erupted. Tweets calling for calm came late and lacked any sense of urgency. His condemnation of Mike Pence during the riot further inflamed the situation, showing disregard for law and order.

“He told supporters to cheer on Congress peacefully” The instruction to cheer was paired with rhetoric casting Congress as complicit in a fraudulent election. This duality gave supporters a pretext to escalate their actions. 

Finally, you can’t isolate Trump’s words and actions on January 6th from the broader campaign he orchestrated to delegitimize the election and rile his supporters, priming them for violence. 

https://cha.house.gov/2024/6/nancy-pelosi-contradicts-her-own-narrative-of-january-6-hbo-footage-shows

Yesterday, the Subcommittee posted this video from January 6, 2021, which was recorded by Alexandra Pelosi and provided directly to the Subcommittee by HBO. In the video former Speaker Nancy Pelosi stated "I take responsibility" for the security failures of the Capitol that day. 

 “As Nancy Pelosi was being evacuated from the Capitol on January 6, 2021 she admitted that, as Speaker of the House, she was responsible for the security failures, and for not having the National Guard at the Capitol,” said Chairman Loudermilk.

“However, after the dust settled from the breach of the Capitol, she spent 20 million taxpayer dollars for her January 6 Select Committee to create a narrative that shifted the blame on President Trump. The Democrats’ partisan select committee went to great lengths to suppress and hide evidence that didn’t support their predetermined narrative about that day, including this video of Speaker Pelosi admitting that she was responsible for the security failures at the Capitol. My committee will continue to investigate and expose all the facts. The American people deserve the truth.” 

This is from the liberal CBS still trying to spin it. 

 

 

 

[Spaztecs]

On 1/6/2025 at 7:57 AM, retrofade said:

I remember when Trump said these things:

• “We will not take it anymore and that’s what this is all about. To use a favorite term that all of you people really came up with, we will stop the steal.”
• “We fight like hell and if you don’t fight like hell, you’re not going to have a country anymore.”
• “Nobody knows what the hell is going on. There’s never been anything like this. We will not let them silence your voices. We’re not going to let it happen. Not going to let it happen.” 
• "We will not be intimidated into accepting the hoaxes and the lies that we’ve been forced to believe over the past several weeks.”
• "And we got to get rid of the weak congresspeople, the ones that aren’t any good, the Liz Cheneys of the world, we got to get rid of them. We got to get rid of them.”
• “We want to go back, and we want to get this right because we’re going to have somebody in there that should not be in there and our country will be destroyed, and we’re not going to stand for that.”

 

 

I comforting to see the same Trump phucks acting like Jan 6, 2021 was some sort of Patriotic moment.

[Spaztecs]

On 1/6/2025 at 10:44 AM, AztecAlien said:

Conveniently left out and forgotten. 

"walk down to the Capitol" to "cheer on our brave senators and congressmen and women."

"peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard." 

He also urged his supporters to be peaceful and maintain "law and order."

"Please support our Capitol Police and Law Enforcement," he tweeted. "They are truly on the side of our Country. Stay peaceful!" 

 

 

Yet, they didn't.

He can't even control his own base 

[BYUcougfan]

Keep up with the melodramatic take of Jan 6th.  Keep up the Democrat Party's divorce from reality.  While Jan 6th was not a bright spot in U.S. history, it most definitely was not Pearly Harbor, 9/11, slavery, and the holocaust all rolled into one.

[azgreg]

And the gaslighting continues.

[RSF]

On 1/7/2025 at 7:02 PM, BYUcougfan said:

Keep up with the melodramatic take of Jan 6th.  Keep up the Democrat Party's divorce from reality.  While Jan 6th was not a bright spot in U.S. history, it most definitely was not Pearly Harbor, 9/11, slavery, and the holocaust all rolled into one.

Well then quit acting like people think it is. Sheesh.

[FresnoFacts]

January 6, 2021 was not an attack by Trump's base.

Now he blames Hezbollah for breaking into the Capitol.

 

[Slapdad]

On 1/6/2025 at 3:15 PM, thehowlin said:

Also conveniently left out:

Trump’s speech included inflammatory language like “fight like hell” and false claims that the election was stolen. 

The phrase “peacefully and patriotically” was an isolated remark in a broader speech urging defiance.

Despite a few mentions of peace, Trump directed the crowd toward the Capitol after priming them with claims of fraud and a call to "stop the steal."

After the violence began, Trump did nothing to stop the violence for 3 hours. His calls to “support Capitol Police” were contradicted by his refusal to condemn the violence as it unfolded. If he genuinely sought peace he would have immediately condemned the violence and deployed resources to quell the violence rather than delaying action until after it was clear it wasn’t going to change anything.

“Peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard."  A single call for peace is overshadowed by the broader tone of his speech that day, which emphasized anger, fraud, and "fighting like hell." Again, his inaction when the violence started demonstrates his statements for peace were performative rather than sincere.

“He also urged his supporters to be peaceful and maintain ‘law and order.’” Law and order were undermined by Trump’s refusal to act swiftly as violence erupted. Tweets calling for calm came late and lacked any sense of urgency. His condemnation of Mike Pence during the riot further inflamed the situation, showing disregard for law and order.

“He told supporters to cheer on Congress peacefully” The instruction to cheer was paired with rhetoric casting Congress as complicit in a fraudulent election. This duality gave supporters a pretext to escalate their actions. 

Finally, you can’t isolate Trump’s words and actions on January 6th from the broader campaign he orchestrated to delegitimize the election and rile his supporters, priming them for violence. 

Are you forgetting that Democrats like Maxine Waters stated that protestors need to be "more confrontational", Rep Pressley calling for "unrest in the streets", Pelosi saying there should be "uprisings all over the country", Hillary Clinton saying "you cannot be civil with a political party that wants to destroy what you stand for"? Did any democrats call for an end to the protests and violence in 2017? Trump should have acted to stop the protestors on Jan 6, but you like to act like Democrats haven't been complicit and even encouraged violence the past 8 years and that simply isn't true. If you want to talk about the failings of our leaders in discouraging violence, fine...let's do that. If you want to talk about the failings of GOP leaders in discouraging violence while pretending that Dems aren't guilty of the same, then that I'm not interested in. 

 

[RSF]

The false equivalencies being presented are just hilarious. 

[RSF]

[AztecAlien]

On 1/7/2025 at 8:54 PM, RSF said:

The false equivalencies being presented are just hilarious. 

False equivalencies? Prove it wrong. You like to ask others to do the same. Come on, show us what you got, troll. I'm guessing all you got is the reaction response. 

[InnZoneU]

On 1/7/2025 at 5:19 PM, azgreg said:

And the gaslighting continues.

There is no reason to argue with idiots.  All you're going to get in response is gaslighting and false equivalencies.  Everyone with a set of eyes and a functioning brain knows what they saw on Jan 6th.

[Slapdad]

On 1/7/2025 at 9:54 PM, RSF said:

The false equivalencies being presented are just hilarious. 

False equivalencies is always the response when someone points out the hypocrisies of the Political Board's squad. 

[NVGiant Waste of Time]

On 1/7/2025 at 8:05 PM, AztecAlien said:

False equivalencies? Prove it wrong. You like to ask others to do the same. Come on, show us what you got, troll. I'm guessing all you got is the reaction response. 

Prove it wrong? Sure. Do you remember when the president of the United States led a band of rioters into the Capitol with the expressed goal of trying to overturn an election? I do. Do I remember that ever happening before or since? I do not. Democrats have said irresponsible things. Republicans have said irresponsible things, too. But there is no equivalent behavior to what happened on Jan. 6, full stop.

[NVGiant Waste of Time]

On 1/8/2025 at 6:57 AM, Slapdad said:

False equivalencies is always the response when someone points out the hypocrisies of the Political Board's squad. 

And this is the go-to response of people who don’t like it when their flawed point of view receives a little pushback. Look it’s absolutely true that Democrats say and do ridiculous and irresponsible things. It is equally true that Republicans do the same. There is no one innocent or pure in the great mess that is our politics. But I think you can accept all that and still say what happened on Jan. 6 was different. No what-about-isms needed.

[NVGiant Waste of Time]

On 1/7/2025 at 5:02 PM, BYUcougfan said:

Keep up with the melodramatic take of Jan 6th.  Keep up the Democrat Party's divorce from reality.  While Jan 6th was not a bright spot in U.S. history, it most definitely was not Pearly Harbor, 9/11, slavery, and the holocaust all rolled into one.

 Lol. Welp, since it didn’t involve a 250-year subjugation of an entire people or result in the systematic murder of 12 million it must not be worth discussing then!

[Slapdad]

On 1/8/2025 at 8:27 AM, InnZoneU said:

There is no reason to argue with idiots.  All you're going to get in response is gaslighting and false equivalencies.  Everyone with a set of eyes and a functioning brain knows what they saw on Jan 6th.

Idiots indeed. Nobody here is trying to pretend that Jan 6th didn't happen, but the libs here love to pretend that there wasn't violence in January 2017. Were they the same in scope as each other, no, but few events are....doesn't mean you pretend like one didn't happen. If you can't see the absurdity of that, then I don't know what to tell you. 

[InnZoneU]

On 1/8/2025 at 7:20 AM, Slapdad said:

Idiots indeed. Nobody here is trying to pretend that Jan 6th didn't happen, but the libs here love to pretend that there wasn't violence in January 2017. Were they the same in scope as each other, no, but few events are....doesn't mean you pretend like one didn't happen. If you can't see the absurdity of that, then I don't know what to tell you. 

Yeah you missed the part about false equivalencies.  Yawn.  Go gaslight someone else.