CoachKenFTW Posted December 23, 2024 Posted December 23, 2024 On 12/23/2024 at 9:37 AM, bornontheblue said: Has anybody in this forum ever been there. Does it have vacation potential? It has great potential as re-education camp for global warming warriors. Since they are always crying about the glaciers melting there, Trump will only allow them to wear tank tops and short during the winters there. If they want any heating fuel, they'll have to go mine for coal. 1
renoskier Posted December 23, 2024 Posted December 23, 2024 On 12/23/2024 at 9:37 AM, bornontheblue said: Has anybody in this forum ever been there. Does it have vacation potential? Iceland yes...Greenland, not so much
RSF Posted December 23, 2024 Posted December 23, 2024 On 12/23/2024 at 11:37 AM, bornontheblue said: Has anybody in this forum ever been there. Does it have vacation potential? Not been there, per se, but…
azgreg Posted December 23, 2024 Posted December 23, 2024 Actually, Summer Greenland looks pretty nice. Winter Greenland not so much. 1
halfmanhalfbronco Posted December 23, 2024 Posted December 23, 2024 On 12/23/2024 at 11:21 AM, InnZoneU said: That was one of the best jokes. I can't remember who did it? Erik the Red, Leif's dad. There's a pretty good YouTube documentary on the mystery of what happened to the last viking colony there 1
InnZoneU Posted December 23, 2024 Posted December 23, 2024 On 12/23/2024 at 11:58 AM, halfmanhalfbronco said: Erik the Red, Leif's dad. There's a pretty good YouTube documentary on the mystery of what happened to the last viking colony there Damn I was thinking like Carlin or Hedberg lol 1
RSF Posted December 23, 2024 Posted December 23, 2024 On 12/23/2024 at 12:24 PM, CoachKenFTW said: It has great potential as re-education camp for global warming warriors. Since they are always crying about the glaciers melting there, Trump will only allow them to wear tank tops and short during the winters there. If they want any heating fuel, they'll have to go mine for coal. BFD. The capital is on the coast where the weather isn’t that bad. Winter clothes are for pussies like yourself.
Hashbrowns Posted December 23, 2024 Posted December 23, 2024 On 12/23/2024 at 3:02 PM, RSF said: BFD. The capital is on the coast where the weather isn’t that bad. Winter clothes are for pussies like yourself. Summer average highs in the 40s-50s. Yuck.
thehowlin Posted December 24, 2024 Posted December 24, 2024 Every time Trump has rattled his saber or threatened a country economically during his time as President or now as the President Elect, China comes in with economic support. Who are these countries going to gravitate to? Brilliant 4D chess by the genius and his “very fine people”.
Old_SD_Dude Posted December 24, 2024 Posted December 24, 2024 Trump wanted the NATO allies to spend more on defense… “The Danish government has announced a huge boost in defence spending for Greenland, hours after US President-elect Donald Trump repeated his desire to purchase the Arctic territory.” https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ckgzl19n9eko 1
retrofade Posted December 24, 2024 Author Posted December 24, 2024 On 12/23/2024 at 8:53 AM, Old_SD_Dude said: On the Panama Canal: “Trump said, that, once his second term is underway, ‘If the principles, both moral and legal, of this magnanimous gesture of giving are not followed, then we will demand that the Panama Canal be returned to the United States of America, in full, quickly and without question.’ ‘I’m not going to stand for it,’ Trump said. ‘So to the officials of Panama, please be guided accordingly.’ He did not explain how that would be possible.” I legitimately thought the Panama Canal stuff was a joke at first.
stanfordchef Posted December 24, 2024 Posted December 24, 2024 On 12/24/2024 at 11:47 AM, retrofade said: I legitimately thought the Panama Canal stuff was a joke at first. i mean we did kidnap their president once so these sorts of things aren't without precedent there. to be fair - if he did decide to take it - what are they going to do lol? Can't see someone jumping in to start a war with us over it. what a fucking strange 4 years this is going to be lol. truly one big fucked up game show.
FresnoFacts Posted December 24, 2024 Posted December 24, 2024 So far, Mexico, Venezuela, Colombia, Cuba, and China have all issued statements that the Canal belongs to Panama. The Secretary General of OAS (Organization of American States) also issued a statement saying he expects compliance with existing treaties. . Meantime Russian media is voicing their approval of the Greenland/Panama/etc proposals. One program said ""This is especially interesting because it drives a wedge between him and Europe, it undermines the world architecture, and opens up certain opportunities for our foreign policy," MIkheyev said, adding that if Trump "really wants to stop the third world war, the way out is simple: dividing up the world into spheres of influence."" https://www.newsweek.com/russia-responds-donald-trumps-greenland-proposal-2005643
Old_SD_Dude Posted December 24, 2024 Posted December 24, 2024 On 12/24/2024 at 11:58 AM, stanfordchef said: i mean we did kidnap their president once so these sorts of things aren't without precedent there. to be fair - if he did decide to take it - what are they going to do lol? Can't see someone jumping in to start a war with us over it. what a fucking strange 4 years this is going to be lol. truly one big fucked up game show. And we basically created Panama. It was part of Columbia. The US in 1903 cooperated with banking interests in what is now Panama. Panamanian independence was declared, which was instantly recognized by the US, which sent in Marines and warships. The quid pro quo was the right to complete the canal and a lease of the Canal Zone. Ah the good old days… 1
RSF Posted December 24, 2024 Posted December 24, 2024 On 12/24/2024 at 1:42 PM, Old_SD_Dude said: Trump wanted the NATO allies to spend more on defense… “The Danish government has announced a huge boost in defence spending for Greenland, hours after US President-elect Donald Trump repeated his desire to purchase the Arctic territory.” https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ckgzl19n9eko Getting ready for the invasion.
halfmanhalfbronco Posted December 24, 2024 Posted December 24, 2024 On 12/24/2024 at 12:58 PM, stanfordchef said: i mean we did kidnap their president once so these sorts of things aren't without precedent there. to be fair - if he did decide to take it - what are they going to do lol? Can't see someone jumping in to start a war with us over it. what a fucking strange 4 years this is going to be lol. truly one big fucked up game show. To be fair, Panama at least should not charge us for moving Naval assets.
Old_SD_Dude Posted December 24, 2024 Posted December 24, 2024 On 12/24/2024 at 12:35 PM, halfmanhalfbronco said: To be fair, Panama at least should not charge us for moving Naval assets. Why not? 1
halfmanhalfbronco Posted December 24, 2024 Posted December 24, 2024 On 12/24/2024 at 2:32 PM, Old_SD_Dude said: Why not? We are their daddy. They depend on us for economic and social development, as well as security.
bornontheblue Posted December 24, 2024 Posted December 24, 2024 On 12/24/2024 at 2:42 PM, halfmanhalfbronco said: We are their daddy. They depend on us for economic and social development, as well as security. China is trying to replace us in that role They will probably succeed because we are too busy with political infighting here to focus on long range global strategy 2
Old_SD_Dude Posted December 24, 2024 Posted December 24, 2024 On 12/24/2024 at 1:42 PM, halfmanhalfbronco said: We are their daddy. They depend on us for economic and social development, as well as security. I really think your views are out of date. According to: https://www.foreignassistance.gov/cd/panama/ we provided $73M in foreign aid to Panama in 2024. China in 2024 invested $1.3 billion in canal-related infrastructure. I also suspect that Panamanian views on their security threats would vary drastically from ours. We invaded them after all and sent in the Marines several times before that. 3
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