Trump is after Greenland again

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President-elect Donald Trump shared his renewed interest Sunday in the U.S. controlling the autonomous territory of Greenland, which is owned by Denmark. 

"For purposes of National Security and Freedom throughout the World, the United States of America feels that the ownership and control of Greenland is an absolute necessity," Trump wrote in a statement announcing that he had chosen Ken Howery to serve as ambassador to Denmark. 

Greenland's prime minister, Mute Egede, has already rejected Trump's remarks, saying in a statement: “Greenland is ours. We are not for sale and will never be for sale. We must not lose our long struggle for freedom," according to Reuters.

Trump floated purchasing Greenland during his first term as president on multiple occasions. 

He told reporters in 2019 about the island, “Strategically it’s interesting, and we’d be interested, but we’ll talk to them a little bit.” 

“First we have to find out whether or not they have any interest,” he added. “They’re losing a tremendous amount of money, so we’ll see what happens.”

At that point, Denmark said that Greenland was not for sale, which caused Trump to cancel a trip he had scheduled to the country. He said in a tweet that Denmark is "a very special country with incredible people, but based on Prime Minister Mette Frederiksen’s comments, that she would have no interest in discussing the purchase of Greenland, I will be postponing our meeting scheduled in two weeks for another time.” 

Miles Taylor, who was chief of staff at the Department of Homeland Security in the first Trump administration, told MSNBC in 2020 that Trump had asked him and other officials in 2018 whether the U.S. could swap Greenland for Puerto Rico because, in Trump’s words, “Puerto Rico was dirty and the people were poor." He said the conversation occurred before DHS officials traveled to Puerto Rico, a U.S. territory, to help with the recovery from Hurricane Maria.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-says-ownership-greenland-absolute-necessity-rcna185197

[bornontheblue]

Make Greenland Great Again 

MGGA

[CoachKenFTW]

"We're going to buy Greenland. And Canada is going to pay for it!"

[mugtang]

Honestly, buying Greenland is a good idea for our economic and national security.  

[FresnoFacts]

Greenland, Canada, the Panama Canal Zone, whatever next.

The new empire building competition? Competing with Putin over who can annex the most land?

 

 

[RSF]

Im for sale, but if Trump’s the buyer I want the money up front….

[Old_SD_Dude]

On the Panama Canal:

“Trump said, that, once his second term is underway, ‘If the principles, both moral and legal, of this magnanimous gesture of giving are not followed, then we will demand that the Panama Canal be returned to the United States of America, in full, quickly and without question.’

‘I’m not going to stand for it,’ Trump said. ‘So to the officials of Panama, please be guided accordingly.’

He did not explain how that would be possible.”

[CoachKenFTW]

On 12/23/2024 at 8:49 AM, FresnoFacts said:

Greenland, Canada, the Panama Canal Zone, whatever next.

The new empire building competition? Competing with Putin over who can annex the most land?

 

 

There's no  competition. Quite the opposite actually, more like a collaborative project. 

We'll work our way east. And Russia will work its way west. The project will be complete when we meet in the middle, and the Russo-American Empire is formed.

[bornontheblue]

On 12/23/2024 at 9:48 AM, mugtang said:

Honestly, buying Greenland is a good idea for our economic and national security.  

Has anybody in this forum ever been there. 

Does it have vacation potential? 

[FresnoFacts]

Well Congress did not get rid of the debt limit so we cannot buy any new territory.

But we are going to deploy the military to our Southern Border. Maybe Trump could then send our forces into Mexico to destroy the Cartels. After that I guess they could keep going all the way to Panama. Maybe follow the eastern Mexico coast and also annex Vera Cruz, Tamaulipas, Quintana Roo, etc. for their oil industries and hotels while heading to take back the Panama Canal. I guess that is one way to expand and follow a potential Southern Manifest Destiny.

Then if we cannot buy or trade for Greenland we just turn the military north and head toward Greenland annexing Canada along the way. Our potential Northern Manifest Destiny.

Of course does that mean we have to reinstate a military draft like Russia?

Or maybe we need to brush up on the rules for the board game "Risk"?

 

[mugtang]

On 12/23/2024 at 9:37 AM, bornontheblue said:

Has anybody in this forum ever been there. 

Does it have vacation potential? 

Never been there.  But the locals are trying to increase tourism to Greenland.  United recently started a direct flight from New York to Greenland that runs during the summer twice per week. 

[mugtang]

On 12/23/2024 at 9:42 AM, FresnoFacts said:

Well Congress did not get rid of the debt limit so we cannot buy any new territory.

But we are going to deploy the military to our Southern Border. Maybe Trump could then send our forces into Mexico to destroy the Cartels. After that I guess they could keep going all the way to Panama. Maybe follow the eastern Mexico coast and also annex Vera Cruz, Tamaulipas, Quintana Roo, etc. for their oil industries and hotels while heading to take back the Panama Canal. I guess that is one way to expand and follow a potential Southern Manifest Destiny.

Then if we cannot buy or trade for Greenland we just turn the military north and head toward Greenland annexing Canada along the way. Our potential Northern Manifest Destiny.

Of course does that mean we have to reinstate a military draft like Russia?

Or maybe we need to brush up on the rules for the board game "Risk"?

 

Trump has an issue though. He can’t legally deploy the military within the United States except in certain circumstances. Not sure dealing with immigration qualifies. But I’m also just a social media attorney and not a real attorney. 

[azgreg]

On 12/23/2024 at 9:37 AM, bornontheblue said:

Has anybody in this forum ever been there. 

Does it have vacation potential? 

It's not even green! But Iceland is.............

[FresnoFacts]

On 12/23/2024 at 9:47 AM, mugtang said:

Trump has an issue though. He can’t legally deploy the military within the United States except in certain circumstances. Not sure dealing with immigration qualifies. But I’m also just a social media attorney and not a real attorney. 

Act first, battle over the authority and ask forgiveness later?

Or simply skip the immigration enforcement and just send the military south against the Cartels and Panama?

There are probably multiple ways to make the Southern Manifest Destiny happen.

 

[mugtang]

On 12/23/2024 at 10:11 AM, FresnoFacts said:

Act first, battle over the authority and ask forgiveness later?

Or simply skip the immigration enforcement and just send the military south against the Cartels and Panama?

There are probably multiple ways to make the Southern Manifest Destiny happen.

 

So we’re invading foreign nations now?  I thought Trump was the most peaceful president and not a warmonger…. (Comment not necessarily directed at you). 

[Billings]

On 12/23/2024 at 8:48 AM, mugtang said:

Honestly, buying Greenland is a good idea for our economic and national security.  

would have to invade and I sure Europe and Canada feel the same way

[Billings]

On 12/23/2024 at 9:37 AM, bornontheblue said:

Has anybody in this forum ever been there. 

Does it have vacation potential? 

no but as the ice melts, and it is,   there seems to be large mineral and metal deposits under the ice

[FresnoFacts]

Corey Lewandowski on Newsmax this morning:

"Well, look, Donald Trump is a real estate master, and he understands the historic and the strategic, more importantly, significance of Greenland. There is a very important strategic value to the United States having control of this.

And by the way, we have not expanded our country in 70 years. So, look, Donald Trump is, again, thinking outside the box. How do we have a lasting impact on the world stage? What does his legacy look like?"

This is someone who has a vision for America's greatness long after he has left the White House, and this is just part."

https://rumble.com/v6267q8-corey-lewandowski-defends-trumps-greenland-takeover-plan.html

 

[InnZoneU]

On 12/23/2024 at 9:48 AM, azgreg said:

It's not even green! But Iceland is.............

That was one of the best jokes.  I can't remember who did it?

 

[FresnoFacts]

On 12/23/2024 at 10:12 AM, mugtang said:

So we’re invading foreign nations now?  I thought Trump was the most peaceful president and not a warmonger…. (Comment not necessarily directed at you). 

Trump is in the territory threatening stage right now. When that doesn't work will he go further or back down? No one knows.

But it is also why I am more concerned about who he surrounds himself with in this term than Trump himself.