Slappy Posted January 11 Posted January 11 On 1/10/2025 at 10:23 PM, Beaver-Poke said: Hearing again today from a very reputable source that the new Pac media package to be in the range of $15 million per team. Also, the budget (about $92m) will be reduced to about $75m by 2026-27, barring an increase in direct institutional funding, which is not out of the question. OSU's budget is 13% from institutional sources, which is quite low for G6 athletic programs. Not exactly sure how the reduction is going to happen, but there will be come belt-tightening. I expect the Civil War will be replaced by an annual body-bag game someplace. That is the high side of what I expected. Name your source. Quote
KingSpartan Posted January 11 Posted January 11 On 1/10/2025 at 9:23 PM, Beaver-Poke said: Hearing again today from a very reputable source that the new Pac media package to be in the range of $15 million per team. Also, the budget (about $92m) will be reduced to about $75m by 2026-27, barring an increase in direct institutional funding, which is not out of the question. OSU's budget is 13% from institutional sources, which is quite low for G6 athletic programs. Not exactly sure how the reduction is going to happen, but there will be come belt-tightening. I expect the Civil War will be replaced by an annual body-bag game someplace. Enjoy Apple TV. 1 Quote
Loyal Coug Posted January 11 Posted January 11 On 1/10/2025 at 9:23 PM, Beaver-Poke said: Hearing again today from a very reputable source that the new Pac media package to be in the range of $15 million per team. Also, the budget (about $92m) will be reduced to about $75m by 2026-27, barring an increase in direct institutional funding, which is not out of the question. OSU's budget is 13% from institutional sources, which is quite low for G6 athletic programs. Not exactly sure how the reduction is going to happen, but there will be come belt-tightening. I expect the Civil War will be replaced by an annual body-bag game someplace. As another poster stated, show your source please. I tend to dismiss anything that comes from a mushroom-soaked Beaver fan. And yeah keep trumpeting your Baseball success. Good on OSU, but no one really gives a shit about Baseball. Just wait until the WSU Jackrabbits - oops I mean Cougs - kick your ass twice next year in FB. Quote
Beaver-Poke Posted January 11 Posted January 11 Go ahead, shoot the messenger. I'll be laughing when my source is proven correct. And I certainly can understand why no Coug fan thinks baseball is a big deal, given the accomplishments of your program over the past 25-30 years. But yet ESPN somehow thinks it's important enough to televise numerous regional and Super Regional games, and the entire College World Series, which is played for almost 300,000 fans. 41-38. Scoreboard. PS: I (and millions of Americans) do enjoy Apple TV. I recommend Ted Lasso and The Morning Show. 1 Quote
UNLV2001 Posted January 12 Posted January 12 On 1/11/2025 at 11:30 AM, Beaver-Poke said: Go ahead, shoot the messenger. I'll be laughing when my source is proven correct. And I certainly can understand why no Coug fan thinks baseball is a big deal, given the accomplishments of your program over the past 25-30 years. But yet ESPN somehow thinks it's important enough to televise numerous regional and Super Regional games, and the entire College World Series, which is played for almost 300,000 fans. 41-38. Scoreboard. PS: I (and millions of Americans) do enjoy Apple TV. I recommend Ted Lasso and The Morning Show. TV clamoring to pay big $$ while WSU is loading up on FCS transfers !!! Though they are FCS from SD State which is a good FCS program Also those big $$ based on the come bet of landing Memphis or some other mystery school like NM State ?!?! Quote
NorCalCoug Posted January 12 Posted January 12 On 1/11/2025 at 12:30 PM, Beaver-Poke said: Go ahead, shoot the messenger. I'll be laughing when my source is proven correct. And I certainly can understand why no Coug fan thinks baseball is a big deal, given the accomplishments of your program over the past 25-30 years. But yet ESPN somehow thinks it's important enough to televise numerous regional and Super Regional games, and the entire College World Series, which is played for almost 300,000 fans. 41-38. Scoreboard. PS: I (and millions of Americans) do enjoy Apple TV. I recommend Ted Lasso and The Morning Show. And tens of thousands of Americans will enjoy watching nPAC on AppleTV. Given what Apple was willing to pay the old PAC10 (with Oregon/Washington/etc) I find your $15M figure to be a bit optimistic, but we’ll see. Quote
SWspartan Posted January 12 Posted January 12 On 12/22/2024 at 10:20 AM, Spaztecs said: The Fudge Pac With a sheep on the logo. 🐑 Quote
Headbutt Posted January 12 Posted January 12 On 1/12/2025 at 9:59 AM, NorCalCoug said: And tens of thousands of Americans will enjoy watching nPAC on AppleTV. Given what Apple was willing to pay the old PAC10 (with Oregon/Washington/etc) I find your $15M figure to be a bit optimistic, but we’ll see. $15 million does seem to be optimistic. I've heard that it's the high side in negotiations. The numbers getting thrown around are obviously affected by how much the Pac is willing to stream, and the different date and time options. From what I've heard, and I'm positive my sources are no more reliable that what @Beaver-Poke and a bunch of podcasters are throwing out there, Apple TV really isn't a player in the negotiations. The CW, Turner, Netflix, Amazon, and a revived P12 network that is not as ambitious as the original (think the MWC Network) are doing most of the talking. No ESPN. No FOX. And thank God, no CBSSports. I have no clue how we'll see $15 million out of that group, but $12 million would have a lot of AD's doing a dance. I think the floor is $10 million, but we'll see. 1 Quote
Spaztecs Posted January 12 Posted January 12 On 1/12/2025 at 12:23 AM, UNLV2001 said: TV clamoring to pay big $$ while WSU is loading up on FCS transfers !!! Though they are FCS from SD State which is a good FCS program Also those big $$ based on the come bet of landing Memphis or some other mystery school like NM State ?!?! The FCS SDSU would have beat down the lower half of the MW this year. Even the FBS SDSU. Quote
Spaztecs Posted January 12 Posted January 12 On 1/12/2025 at 12:23 AM, UNLV2001 said: TV clamoring to pay big $$ while WSU is loading up on FCS transfers !!! Though they are FCS from SD State which is a good FCS program Also those big $$ based on the come bet of landing Memphis or some other mystery school like NM State ?!?! It's all about the TV deal. North of $10 mil should do the trick. The OG AAC Schools got $9 mill in total distribution. The newer Schools got half. The each get $500k more each year over the life of the contract, which means the OG gets that much less. Coupled with an ESPN contract review after 2026, might bring down the media numbers. If the nPac Media deal is over ten and you add on the post season payouts, that should get Memphis/Tulane to come west. If the Media deal is under, they could still get UTSA and NTSU for 2026 as their exit fees are only $12.5 mil. The Internet rumor mill has TSU in back door talks with the Pac. I think like the Utes in 2011, they will be the last team in regardless of whoever else joins. Absolutely disaster scenario is NMSU or ULL. They will take half a share a feel like they hit a walk-off homer. Quote
UNLV2001 Posted January 12 Posted January 12 On 1/12/2025 at 2:40 PM, Spaztecs said: It's all about the TV deal. North of $10 mil should do the trick. The OG AAC Schools got $9 mill in total distribution. The newer Schools got half. The each get $500k more each year over the life of the contract, which means the OG gets that much less. Coupled with an ESPN contract review after 2026, might bring down the media numbers. If the nPac Media deal is over ten and you add on the post season payouts, that should get Memphis/Tulane to come west. If the Media deal is under, they could still get UTSA and NTSU for 2026 as their exit fees are only $12.5 mil. The Internet rumor mill has TSU in back door talks with the Pac. I think like the Utes in 2011, they will be the last team in regardless of whoever else joins. Absolutely disaster scenario is NMSU or ULL. They will take half a share a feel like they hit a walk-off homer. Unless there's some behind the scenes guarantee coming from some reasonably notable school, all this PAC TV $$ is just speculation & wishful thinking Can't see TV paying huge $ to an incomplete conference that is basically the MWC 2.0 where the main sales pitch is we have BSU, "you know the team that plays on the blue turf" so give us big $$ -- best selling point might be the PAC surrendering to late night & weekday games because the PAC & MWC will be 2nd options when any of the 4 B10 west coast teams are in action Quote
Spaztecs Posted January 12 Posted January 12 On 1/12/2025 at 4:11 PM, UNLV2001 said: Unless there's some behind the scenes guarantee coming from some reasonably notable school, all this PAC TV $$ is just speculation & wishful thinking Can't see TV paying huge $ to an incomplete conference that is basically the MWC 2.0 where the main sales pitch is we have BSU, "you know the team that plays on the blue turf" so give us big $$ -- best selling point might be the PAC surrendering to late night & weekday games because the PAC & MWC will be 2nd options when any of the 4 B10 west coast teams are in action You're obviously down on the nPac. If the nPac has meh value, what does that make the MW ? An afterthought ? You had better pray the nPac gets north of $10 mil. The MW will get ~ half what the Pac gets. 1 Quote
UofMemphis Posted January 12 Posted January 12 On 1/12/2025 at 4:40 PM, Spaztecs said: It's all about the TV deal. North of $10 mil should do the trick. The OG AAC Schools got $9 mill in total distribution. The newer Schools got half. The each get $500k more each year over the life of the contract, which means the OG gets that much less. Coupled with an ESPN contract review after 2026, might bring down the media numbers. If the nPac Media deal is over ten and you add on the post season payouts, that should get Memphis/Tulane to come west. If the Media deal is under, they could still get UTSA and NTSU for 2026 as their exit fees are only $12.5 mil. The Internet rumor mill has TSU in back door talks with the Pac. I think like the Utes in 2011, they will be the last team in regardless of whoever else joins. Absolutely disaster scenario is NMSU or ULL. They will take half a share a feel like they hit a walk-off homer. 1 Quote
UofMemphis Posted January 12 Posted January 12 Quote Future Pac-12 basketball NET ranking - 77 AAC NET ranking (with Memphis) - 167 but yeah...that's a thing too. Quote
Spaztecs Posted January 12 Posted January 12 On 1/12/2025 at 4:44 PM, UofMemphis said: but yeah...that's a thing too. Besides Memphis who is the historical basketball squad in the League ? I see Wichita State is finally back on track. Quote
UofMemphis Posted January 12 Posted January 12 On 1/12/2025 at 5:46 PM, Spaztecs said: Besides Memphis who is the historical basketball squad in the League ? I see Wichita State is finally back on track. Temple, UAB, Tulsa, Charlotte, and even WSU need to return to form for AAC hoops to work as it should. EDIT: it also would have been nice if FAU and USF could have 'kept it going' but I get it...stuff happened 1 Quote
Spaztecs Posted January 13 Posted January 13 On 1/12/2025 at 4:50 PM, UofMemphis said: Temple, UAB, Tulsa, Charlotte, and even WSU need to return to form for AAC hoops to work as it should. EDIT: it also would have been nice if FAU and USF could have 'kept it going' but I get it...stuff happened I'd forgotten that at one time Temple was good. Been awhile. 1 Quote
UofMemphis Posted January 13 Posted January 13 On 1/12/2025 at 6:21 PM, Spaztecs said: I'd forgotten that at one time Temple was good. Been awhile. I believe they have more NCAA appearances than we do...I think they've been to like 31-32 with a bunch of Elite Eight's. EDIT: and when I say return to form I mean anywhere from 20 wins to NCAA tourney type team. 1 Quote
Beaver-Poke Posted January 13 Posted January 13 On 1/12/2025 at 12:21 PM, Headbutt said: $15 million does seem to be optimistic. I've heard that it's the high side in negotiations. The numbers getting thrown around are obviously affected by how much the Pac is willing to stream, and the different date and time options. From what I've heard, and I'm positive my sources are no more reliable that what @Beaver-Poke and a bunch of podcasters are throwing out there, Apple TV really isn't a player in the negotiations. The CW, Turner, Netflix, Amazon, and a revived P12 network that is not as ambitious as the original (think the MWC Network) are doing most of the talking. No ESPN. No FOX. And thank God, no CBSSports. I have no clue how we'll see $15 million out of that group, but $12 million would have a lot of AD's doing a dance. I think the floor is $10 million, but we'll see. I'm certainly not going to burn my source. I can assure you they are far more credible than some rando podcaster. 1 2 Quote
Headbutt Posted January 13 Posted January 13 On 1/12/2025 at 10:21 PM, Beaver-Poke said: I'm certainly not going to burn my source. I can assure you they are far more credible than some rando podcaster. The point is that your source is not correct until the deal is signed. I've heard $10 - $15 million depending on a number of factors. Also a solid source. I'll go with mine since he outlined that nothing is done yet and that it depends on a lot of factors. Who's joining, weeknight FB games, late start times, etc. Media pays more for content that inconveniences us, but benefits them. They have no need for 1 PM Mtn. time games, so they pay less for those. I suspect that we won't really know anything until at least after the lawsuits are settled. Early summer at the earliest IMO. Quote
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