CoachKenFTW Posted December 18, 2024 Posted December 18, 2024 Putin signs law banning ‘childfree propaganda’ — RT Russia & Former Soviet Union Russia bans 'child-free propaganda' to try to boost birth rate | Reuters Democrats are MAWE, Make America Western Europe MAGA skews a lot more toward Eastern European values. So it will be interest to see how much territory traditional family values will be able to regain. 1 1
tailingpermit Posted December 18, 2024 Posted December 18, 2024 Sex Ed is about to get real interesting in Russia.
Akkula Posted December 19, 2024 Posted December 19, 2024 On 12/18/2024 at 12:50 PM, CoachKenFTW said: Putin signs law banning ‘childfree propaganda’ — RT Russia & Former Soviet Union Russia bans 'child-free propaganda' to try to boost birth rate | Reuters Democrats are MAWE, Make America Western Europe MAGA skews a lot more toward Eastern European values. So it will be interest to see how much territory traditional family values will be able to regain. Yes I agree it is nice that those godless commies did a 180 and "found jesus" and now lecture us on family values. MAGA also did a 180 on all their prior "sincerely held beliefs" and found "orange Jesus." So yes, Russians and MAGA are highly aligned with their flexible values. 3
RSF Posted December 19, 2024 Posted December 19, 2024 On 12/18/2024 at 5:42 PM, renoskier said: what's "childless propaganda"? Coach’s love life…
happycamper Posted December 19, 2024 Posted December 19, 2024 On 12/18/2024 at 1:50 PM, CoachKenFTW said: Putin signs law banning ‘childfree propaganda’ — RT Russia & Former Soviet Union Russia bans 'child-free propaganda' to try to boost birth rate | Reuters Democrats are MAWE, Make America Western Europe MAGA skews a lot more toward Eastern European values. So it will be interest to see how much territory traditional family values will be able to regain. did you have a stroke halfway through this post 2
HR_poke Posted December 19, 2024 Posted December 19, 2024 On 12/19/2024 at 5:31 AM, happycamper said: did you have a stroke halfway through this post How did you know.... Oh like a blood clot stroke.... 2
CoachKenFTW Posted December 19, 2024 Author Posted December 19, 2024 On 12/19/2024 at 4:31 AM, happycamper said: did you have a stroke halfway through this post 1
CoachKenFTW Posted December 28, 2024 Author Posted December 28, 2024 On 12/18/2024 at 3:42 PM, renoskier said: what's "childless propaganda"? It's "reproductive violence", apparently Why Russia has banned 'childfree propaganda' and is promoting eight-child families | World News | Sky News 1
GregoryPierreTolkien Posted December 31, 2024 Posted December 31, 2024 Russia sees the writing on the wall with declining birth rates, while here in the U.S., the left seems more interested in importing voters than encouraging families. Traditional family values are what built strong societies for centuries, and abandoning them has led to so much of the mess we see today. MAGA absolutely leans more toward those Eastern European principles of faith, family, and a sense of duty to the next generation 2
Old_SD_Dude Posted January 3 Posted January 3 On 12/30/2024 at 10:55 PM, GregoryPierreTolkien said: Russia sees the writing on the wall with declining birth rates, while here in the U.S., the left seems more interested in importing voters than encouraging families. Traditional family values are what built strong societies for centuries, and abandoning them has led to so much of the mess we see today. MAGA absolutely leans more toward those Eastern European principles of faith, family, and a sense of duty to the next generation Perhaps you are joking. The birth rates in Eastern Europe are lower than that of the US and they are much less committed to religion. https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/total-fertility-rate https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2018/06/13/how-religious-commitment-varies-by-country-among-people-of-all-ages/ 1
Spaztecs Posted January 7 Posted January 7 On 12/30/2024 at 11:55 PM, GregoryPierreTolkien said: Russia sees the writing on the wall with declining birth rates, while here in the U.S., the left seems more interested in importing voters than encouraging families. Traditional family values are what built strong societies for centuries, and abandoning them has led to so much of the mess we see today. MAGA absolutely leans more toward those Eastern European principles of faith, family, and a sense of duty to the next generation Maybe, just maybe, women and their men want fewer kids. It ain't cheap to birth a kid, let alone raise one. Modern history shows the more educated and well off a society is, the birth rates drop. Why ? Access to birth control. Your celebration of family values is really forced birthing. Denying access to abortion, sex ed, and birth control is a component of authoritarianism. Forcing women to bleed out in Hospital parking lots, making it harder to divorce, etal are an authoritarian State in action Enjoy your dystopian family values world.
CoachKenFTW Posted January 7 Author Posted January 7 On 1/7/2025 at 9:51 AM, Spaztecs said: Maybe, just maybe, women and their men want fewer kids. It ain't cheap to birth a kid, let alone raise one. Modern history shows the more educated and well off a society is, the birth rates drop. Why ? Access to birth control. Your celebration of family values is really forced birthing. Denying access to abortion, sex ed, and birth control is a component of authoritarianism. Forcing women to bleed out in Hospital parking lots, making it harder to divorce, etal are an authoritarian State in action Enjoy your dystopian family values world. You aren't being asked to approve of any of those things. But you're better off getting used to them.
Spaztecs Posted January 7 Posted January 7 On 1/7/2025 at 11:07 AM, CoachKenFTW said: You aren't being asked to approve of any of those things. But you're better off getting used to them. When the political right is told to accept things they riot, create false narratives about Obama's birth status, and make up shit about everything, claim that tranny's are taking over our Schools, etc. But , the political center and left should accept what's coming. Kiss my ass Enjoy your dystopian world with unwanted and unloved babies. 1
CoachKenFTW Posted January 7 Author Posted January 7 On 1/7/2025 at 11:02 AM, Spaztecs said: When the political right is told to accept things they riot, create false narratives about Obama's birth status, and make up shit about everything, claim that tranny's are taking over our Schools, etc. But , the political center and left should accept what's coming. Kiss my ass Enjoy your dystopian world with unwanted and unloved babies. When your ideas don't work anymore, you can work to get better ideas. Or, you can get worse and keep them. That goes for left and right.
GregoryPierreTolkien Posted January 10 Posted January 10 On 1/7/2025 at 9:51 AM, Spaztecs said: Maybe, just maybe, women and their men want fewer kids. It ain't cheap to birth a kid, let alone raise one. Modern history shows the more educated and well off a society is, the birth rates drop. Why ? Access to birth control. Your celebration of family values is really forced birthing. Denying access to abortion, sex ed, and birth control is a component of authoritarianism. Forcing women to bleed out in Hospital parking lots, making it harder to divorce, etal are an authoritarian State in action Enjoy your dystopian family values world. No one is talking about forcing anyone to have kids. The point is that society should encourage and support family formation, not shame or discourage it. There's a massive difference between promoting family values and forcing people into anything. Right now, Western culture glorifies being "childfree" and treats starting a family like it's some kind of burden. Meanwhile, birth rates are crashing, and societies are aging into collapse. You can't have a strong, stable country without strong families. Also, let's be honest, it's not authoritarian to value life and protect the most vulnerable. What's authoritarian is pushing one worldview and demonizing anyone who believes in traditional values. If we keep going down this path of glorifying self-indulgence and rejecting responsibility, the "dystopian" world you're worried about will be one where there’s no future generation to carry on anything.
Spaztecs Posted January 12 Posted January 12 On 1/10/2025 at 2:39 PM, GregoryPierreTolkien said: No one is talking about forcing anyone to have kids. The point is that society should encourage and support family formation, not shame or discourage it. There's a massive difference between promoting family values and forcing people into anything. Right now, Western culture glorifies being "childfree" and treats starting a family like it's some kind of burden. Meanwhile, birth rates are crashing, and societies are aging into collapse. You can't have a strong, stable country without strong families. Also, let's be honest, it's not authoritarian to value life and protect the most vulnerable. What's authoritarian is pushing one worldview and demonizing anyone who believes in traditional values. If we keep going down this path of glorifying self-indulgence and rejecting responsibility, the "dystopian" world you're worried about will be one where there’s no future generation to carry on anything. Who's shaming folk with children ? People should be free to have any number they want. With as many partners as they want, as long as the Dad's foot the bill. That's what our Guv should focus on. Our Guv already supports child bearing via tax credits, public education, free vaxx programs for kids. Yet, this Admin will kill public education and vaxxing in exchange for tax cuts. wtf kind of pro birth policy is that ? There are RW birthing organizations working to have IVF and other high tech reproductive methods made a available only to couples who already have kids. Not to women who are struggling to become pregnant and carry to term. What kind of dystopian pro birth and pro family view is that ? The only pro birth policies they seemingly support are ignorance, no access to birth control or abortion. What's next ? Building Maga Youth Camps in proximity to one another and letting nature and propaganda take its course, like the Nazis did ?
NorCalCoug Posted January 12 Posted January 12 On 1/7/2025 at 12:02 PM, Spaztecs said: When the political right is told to accept things they riot, create false narratives about Obama's birth status, and make up shit about everything, claim that tranny's are taking over our Schools, etc. But , the political center and left should accept what's coming. Kiss my ass Enjoy your dystopian world with unwanted and unloved babies. Irony at its finest…. 😂 1 1
NorCalCoug Posted January 12 Posted January 12 On 1/12/2025 at 9:07 AM, Spaztecs said: Who's shaming folk with children ? People should be free to have any number they want. With as many partners as they want, as long as the Dad's foot the bill. That's what our Guv should focus on. Our Guv already supports child bearing via tax credits, public education, free vaxx programs for kids. Yet, this Admin will kill public education and vaxxing in exchange for tax cuts. wtf kind of pro birth policy is that ? There are RW birthing organizations working to have IVF and other high tech reproductive methods made a available only to couples who already have kids. Not to women who are struggling to become pregnant and carry to term. What kind of dystopian pro birth and pro family view is that ? The only pro birth policies they seemingly support are ignorance, no access to birth control or abortion. What's next ? Building Maga Youth Camps in proximity to one another and letting nature and propaganda take its course, like the Nazis did ? Now Trump is planning to end child vaccination programs for tax cuts? You can’t be serious. Weren’t you the one that just said the right makes shit up and creates false narratives? RuSSiAn COllUsIoN!!!!! Just look at all the insanely idiotic things you and others on this board constantly put out there of what Trump is supposedly planning to do. You people are mentally ill and just looking for made up nonsense to fuel your rage. You speak of concentration camps, dictatorship, handing off power to his son, ending child vaccination programs, repealing gay marriage, no access to birth control or abortion, claims of war mongering (his first term was the most militarily restrained presidency in my lifetime), etc etc etc… the list goes on. Seek help man. The boogeyman that exists in your deluded mind simply isn’t real. 1
Spaztecs Posted January 12 Posted January 12 On 1/12/2025 at 9:27 AM, NorCalCoug said: Now Trump is planning to end child vaccination programs for tax cuts? You can’t be serious. Weren’t you the one that just said the right makes shit up and creates false narratives? RuSSiAn COllUsIoN!!!!! Just look at all the insanely idiotic things you and others on this board constantly put out there of what Trump is supposedly planning to do. You people are mentally ill and just looking for made up nonsense to fuel your rage. You speak of concentration camps, dictatorship, handing off power to his son, ending child vaccination programs, repealing gay marriage, no access to birth control or abortion, claims of war mongering (his first term was the most militarily restrained presidency in my lifetime), etc etc etc… the list goes on. Seek help man. The boogeyman that exists in your deluded mind simply isn’t real. It is the goal of Maga to kill public ed. That attack it constantly. At best they want to reform it in order to make our public schools more like private religious institutes. At worst they want to keep it and have tax payers fund voucher programs. Simply so we will pay so their kids don't have to go to School with ours . As to my sanity, going along with what's happening, defending it, down playing the concerns with it, minimizing those who do express these concerns, are exactly what this extremist movement relies on to get their agenda pushed through. I'm a retired, vet, with left of Maga views. I've hit the jackpot in terms of being a target of their policies. But, you keep doing you. It seems to have worked for you up to this point.
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