Ivermectin - Darwin Award

[StealthLobo]

It's commonly prescribed at therapeutic doses for scabies and intestinal parasites.

[GregoryPierreTolkien]

You know, mocking someone's death, no matter what choices they made, says more about you than it does about them. Sure, ivermectin wasn’t the miracle cure some thought it was, but let’s not forget that during the pandemic, people were desperate for solutions. The real failure was how our institutions handled communication and trust, which drove people to alternative treatments in the first place.

Calling people names or celebrating their deaths isn’t productive. Instead of shaming, maybe we should focus on creating a society where people feel confident in science and medicine, rather than needing to look elsewhere for answers. Compassion and understanding go a lot further than ridicule.

[Old_SD_Dude]

On 12/30/2024 at 2:53 PM, GregoryPierreTolkien said:

You know, mocking someone's death, no matter what choices they made, says more about you than it does about them. Sure, ivermectin wasn’t the miracle cure some thought it was, but let’s not forget that during the pandemic, people were desperate for solutions. The real failure was how our institutions handled communication and trust, which drove people to alternative treatments in the first place.

Calling people names or celebrating their deaths isn’t productive. Instead of shaming, maybe we should focus on creating a society where people feel confident in science and medicine, rather than needing to look elsewhere for answers. Compassion and understanding go a lot further than ridicule.

I seem to recall our institutions stating adamantly that invermectin was not a valid treatment for Covid. 

[Sactowndog]

On 12/30/2024 at 2:53 PM, GregoryPierreTolkien said:

You know, mocking someone's death, no matter what choices they made, says more about you than it does about them. Sure, ivermectin wasn’t the miracle cure some thought it was, but let’s not forget that during the pandemic, people were desperate for solutions. The real failure was how our institutions handled communication and trust, which drove people to alternative treatments in the first place.

Calling people names or celebrating their deaths isn’t productive. Instead of shaming, maybe we should focus on creating a society where people feel confident in science and medicine, rather than needing to look elsewhere for answers. Compassion and understanding go a lot further than ridicule.

Not to mention this guy took it long after true medicine for Covid was discovered.  
 

Darwin awards have been around a long time.  Luckily the moron in this case didn’t leave children fatherless.  He also put many others at risk who listened to him.  Not to mention horses put at risk when Ivermectin became unavailable
 

Generally I agree with your last statement but there are times when ridicule is appropriate.  

[GregoryPierreTolkien]

On 12/30/2024 at 3:24 PM, Old_SD_Dude said:

I seem to recall our institutions stating adamantly that invermectin was not a valid treatment for Covid. 

Yeah, our institutions were adamant about a lot of things like "two weeks to flatten the curve," that the vaccine would stop transmission, and let’s not forget the mask flip flop. Forgive me if I’m skeptical of the same folks who moved the goalposts every other week.

People turned to ivermectin because the so-called "experts" gave us nothing but contradictions and power grabs. Instead of addressing people’s concerns or exploring treatments, they shut down debate and demonized anyone asking questions. Maybe if our institutions had focused on transparency and solutions instead of censorship and control, we wouldn’t even be having this conversation.

So, yeah, people were desperate. But don't act like the CDC and FDA earned anyone's trust in the last few years.

[GregoryPierreTolkien]

On 12/31/2024 at 8:40 AM, Sactowndog said:

Not to mention this guy took it long after true medicine for Covid was discovered.  
 

Darwin awards have been around a long time.  Luckily the moron in this case didn’t leave children fatherless.  He also put many others at risk who listened to him.  Not to mention horses put at risk when Ivermectin became unavailable
 

Generally I agree with your last statement but there are times when ridicule is appropriate.  

Oh, give me a break with the "horses at risk" nonsense. You’re really going to sit there and act like this guy’s decisions caused some kind of equine crisis? That’s laughable. The man made bad choices, sure, but blaming him for everything from other people’s decisions to some imaginary plight of horses is just ridiculous.

And the "Darwin Award" stuff? Real classy. The guy is dead, and instead of making a real argument, you’re here celebrating it like it proves a point. Throwing in that he "didn’t leave kids fatherless" as some kind of consolation prize is just gross. If you actually care about bad information and dangerous choices, maybe focus on fixing the trust issues that push people to extremes instead of dancing on someone’s grave. But I guess that’s too much to ask when the priority is scoring cheap laughs.

[Old_SD_Dude]

On 12/31/2024 at 9:31 AM, GregoryPierreTolkien said:

Yeah, our institutions were adamant about a lot of things like "two weeks to flatten the curve," that the vaccine would stop transmission, and let’s not forget the mask flip flop. Forgive me if I’m skeptical of the same folks who moved the goalposts every other week.

People turned to ivermectin because the so-called "experts" gave us nothing but contradictions and power grabs. Instead of addressing people’s concerns or exploring treatments, they shut down debate and demonized anyone asking questions. Maybe if our institutions had focused on transparency and solutions instead of censorship and control, we wouldn’t even be having this conversation.

So, yeah, people were desperate. But don't act like the CDC and FDA earned anyone's trust in the last few years.

I have a very different opinion. I trusted science, errored on the side of caution early on, got my vaccines and boosters, had two mild cases of Covid. 

[azgreg]

I get the distrust of the CDC and health professionals. Messaging was a problem. With that being said it seems that those who trusted the CDC and health professionals over red hat wearing dipshits were more prone to not get very sick or die so.......

[azgreg]

[Sactowndog]

On 12/31/2024 at 9:40 AM, GregoryPierreTolkien said:

Oh, give me a break with the "horses at risk" nonsense. You’re really going to sit there and act like this guy’s decisions caused some kind of equine crisis? That’s laughable. The man made bad choices, sure, but blaming him for everything from other people’s decisions to some imaginary plight of horses is just ridiculous.

And the "Darwin Award" stuff? Real classy. The guy is dead, and instead of making a real argument, you’re here celebrating it like it proves a point. Throwing in that he "didn’t leave kids fatherless" as some kind of consolation prize is just gross. If you actually care about bad information and dangerous choices, maybe focus on fixing the trust issues that push people to extremes instead of dancing on someone’s grave. But I guess that’s too much to ask when the priority is scoring cheap laughs.

I’m telling you for a fact Vet’s had a problem getting Ivermectin to treat horses because dipshits like this person were buying it all up.  
 

this guy was responsible for convincing a number of people to take unprescribed horse doses. Fixing the trust includes bad things happening to idiots like this dude. 

[GO STATE]

On 12/30/2024 at 2:53 PM, GregoryPierreTolkien said:

You know, mocking someone's death, no matter what choices they made, says more about you than it does about them. Sure, ivermectin wasn’t the miracle cure some thought it was, but let’s not forget that during the pandemic, people were desperate for solutions. The real failure was how our institutions handled communication and trust, which drove people to alternative treatments in the first place.

Calling people names or celebrating their deaths isn’t productive. Instead of shaming, maybe we should focus on creating a society where people feel confident in science and medicine, rather than needing to look elsewhere for answers. Compassion and understanding go a lot further than ridicule.

 

HORSESHIT

It was mis-information, some of which came from the White House [an institution].

Nice revisionist history.

 

[GO STATE]

On 12/31/2024 at 9:31 AM, GregoryPierreTolkien said:

Yeah, our institutions were adamant about a lot of things like "two weeks to flatten the curve," that the vaccine would stop transmission, and let’s not forget the mask flip flop. Forgive me if I’m skeptical of the same folks who moved the goalposts every other week.

People turned to ivermectin because the so-called "experts" gave us nothing but contradictions and power grabs. Instead of addressing people’s concerns or exploring treatments, they shut down debate and demonized anyone asking questions. Maybe if our institutions had focused on transparency and solutions instead of censorship and control, we wouldn’t even be having this conversation.

So, yeah, people were desperate. But don't act like the CDC and FDA earned anyone's trust in the last few years.

 

You are surprised the Goal Post get moved when dealing w/a novel global pandemic.

What color is the sky in your world?

 

[InnZoneU]

On 1/1/2025 at 10:30 AM, GO STATE said:

 

You are surprised the Goal Post get moved when dealing w/a novel global pandemic.

What color is the sky in your world?

 

What are yer thoughts on Fogvid-24?  Seems like a total gov't psyop, no?

[Slapdad]

On 12/30/2024 at 4:53 PM, GregoryPierreTolkien said:

You know, mocking someone's death, no matter what choices they made, says more about you than it does about them. Sure, ivermectin wasn’t the miracle cure some thought it was, but let’s not forget that during the pandemic, people were desperate for solutions. The real failure was how our institutions handled communication and trust, which drove people to alternative treatments in the first place.

Calling people names or celebrating their deaths isn’t productive. Instead of shaming, maybe we should focus on creating a society where people feel confident in science and medicine, rather than needing to look elsewhere for answers. Compassion and understanding go a lot further than ridicule.

I was going to post something similar. Ivermectin is, as StealthLobo pointed out above, used for some conditions in humans and it was certainly foolish to take it without a doctor's approval and thinking it was a cure all, but to celebrate his death is sad. From past threads, I seriously doubt that those celebrating this guy's death would say that "due to utter stupidity and his genes were not propagated", "Serves him right", or crime "has consequences." when someone committing a crime dies. 

[Sactowndog]

On 1/5/2025 at 12:11 PM, Slapdad said:

I was going to post something similar. Ivermectin is, as StealthLobo pointed out above, used for some conditions in humans and it was certainly foolish to take it without a doctor's approval and thinking it was a cure all, but to celebrate his death is sad. From past threads, I seriously doubt that those celebrating this guy's death would say that "due to utter stupidity and his genes were not propagated", "Serves him right", or crime "has consequences." when someone committing a crime dies. 

I’m pretty sure Darwin Award posts have been posted before.  

[Slapdad]

On 1/5/2025 at 11:50 PM, Sactowndog said:

I’m pretty sure Darwin Award posts have been posted before.  

Stop pretending that your Darwin Award post and the replies that followed are anything but political…nobody here believes that to be true. 

[Sactowndog]

On 1/5/2025 at 10:06 PM, Slapdad said:

Stop pretending that your Darwin Award post and the replies that followed are anything but political…nobody here believes that to be true. 

Dude anti Vaxxer and some of that stupidity started on the left.  Yes it spread to MAGA courtesy of Trump but they don’t own it completely.   And they are still dumb as fuck.  

[Slapdad]

On 1/6/2025 at 12:14 AM, Sactowndog said:

Dude anti Vaxxer and some of that stupidity started on the left.  Yes it spread to MAGA courtesy of Trump but they don’t own it completely.   And they are still dumb as fuck.  

We'll see how you feel about the subject the next time some shitbag criminal is shot while committing a crime and someone posts a "Darwin Award" post about while saying he deserved it. Your tune will (and has in the past) change real quick. 

[Sactowndog]

On 1/6/2025 at 6:24 AM, Slapdad said:

We'll see how you feel about the subject the next time some shitbag criminal is shot while committing a crime and someone posts a "Darwin Award" post about while saying he deserved it. Your tune will (and has in the past) change real quick. 

Post an example.  I have per my perspective been pretty even handed about morons particularly when those morons lead to others death and damage like this dude.  

[Slapdad]

On 1/6/2025 at 7:01 PM, Sactowndog said:

Post an example.  I have per my perspective been pretty even handed about morons particularly when those morons lead to others death and damage like this dude.  

Just a quick search brings up the Rayshard Brooks thread where you argued for five pages that he shouldn't have been shot. Passed out drunk in a drive through after driving drunk, fought with the cops, then ran......and you don't think he should have been shot. This guy who took Ivermectin certainly was stupid, especially since he was advocating for others to take it, but considering that there have only been 35 serious cases with ivermectin as the cause, 6 of those deaths, I have a hard time understanding how you can trace any of those deaths to this guy's actions (other than his own), yet 13,000 people died in DUI crashes in 2024, so Brooks was far more likely to cause the death of himself and other innocent drivers by doing so. 

Interestingly, you also went on to say "if we are going to make progress we all (myself included or mostly) need to listen more, judge less"......I guess judging less went out in 2020? 

That's just one example, but anyone who reads your posts here knows that what I said is true.