Buttermaker Posted December 13, 2024 Posted December 13, 2024 On 12/13/2024 at 8:02 AM, halfmanhalfbronco said: The "drones" being ET is kinda TIC. Me having fun. Now the UFO sightings in Oregon? That absolutely is ET. They COULD be ET though. It's super strange for it to be happening all over the world. Reports in 4 countries now and most of the north Atlantic Seaboard. If a hostile foreign power is so easily violating the Air Space of the US, the UK and Germany and we can't detect where and how that is also a HUUUGE story. I'm not sure what's going on. We know for a fact that there are objects in our skies that defy or current technological capabilities by hundreds if not thousands of years. This is not debatable. This is fact. We have them captured countlessly on the worlds most advanced sensors. The drones? I don't know what to think. A foreign adversary being WAY more capable than we give credit for scares me more than aliens. Do i think aliens are a possibility in the universe? Yes. Do I think this is evidence of them? Not really. I just can't think of a reason why aliens would fly around in our skies and let us see them but not actually make themselves known. Because if they are actually aliens clearly they would be more advanced than us so what would be the point of that action. Unless of course they are a species that's main objective is to troll other civilizations, lol. I'll wait for actual evidence of aliens... which in my mind that's not what we have. 2 1 Quote
halfmanhalfbronco Posted December 13, 2024 Posted December 13, 2024 On 12/13/2024 at 12:17 PM, Buttermaker said: Do i think aliens are a possibility in the universe? Yes. Do I think this is evidence of them? Not really. I just can't think of a reason why aliens would fly around in our skies and let us see them but not actually make themselves known. Because if they are actually aliens clearly they would be more advanced than us so what would be the point of that action. Unless of course they are a species that's main objective is to troll other civilizations, lol. I'll wait for actual evidence of aliens... which in my mind that's not what we have. What are the objects in the sky then? Because they are real. What was the jellyfish UFO? As to why come to earth? Maybe monitoring life on other planets is one of the last remaining interesting things in the universe for such an advanced species. Look how obsessed our planet is with the idea of alien life. Why wouldn't they be? 1 Quote
BYUcougfan Posted December 13, 2024 Posted December 13, 2024 This just seems like unnecessary government secrecy. I can only assume they know what is going on with them. They should say they know and that they can't share the purpose. If they don't know what they are doing up there, why are they still there? This does not seem all that hard. 3 Quote
AztecAlien Posted December 13, 2024 Posted December 13, 2024 On 12/13/2024 at 12:17 PM, Buttermaker said: Unless of course they are a species that's main objective is to troll other civilizations, lol. I'll wait for actual evidence of aliens... which in my mind that's not what we have. Quote
Buttermaker Posted December 13, 2024 Posted December 13, 2024 On 12/13/2024 at 12:33 PM, halfmanhalfbronco said: What are the objects in the sky then? Because they are real. What was the jellyfish UFO? As to why come to earth? Maybe monitoring life on other planets is one of the last remaining interesting things in the universe for such an advanced species. Look how obsessed our planet is with the idea of alien life. Why wouldn't they be? Didn't ask why come to earth. The question was why fly around and let us see them but not contact us. That makes no sense to me at all and it is not what we would do... we'd actually land or reach out. Your only evidence is unidentified objects flying in the sky that you don't understand. An unidentified object is just that, unidentified. Unidentified doesn't necessarily equal aliens. You can face palm all you want but you don't know any more than anyone else what's happening. If you want to believe they are aliens good for you... Like I said, I'll wait for some actual evidence. 2 1 Quote
renoskier Posted December 13, 2024 Posted December 13, 2024 On 12/12/2024 at 10:52 AM, sean327 said: Killing the drone isn't the problem. That's easily done. It's the literal fallout from the weapon and drone in a populated area that becomes a problem. When you have a moment, can you expand on this? Obviously, there are different types of drones, and we have no idea what type is appearing over NJ and elsewhere. I'm sure it's relatively easy for defense systems to shoot down the winged straight line airplane like models that Iran has been using and selling to Russia. How would a defense system handle a relatively small, say 3-5 feet wide, electric drone made out of composite material which can quickly move in three dimensions. Would such a small craft show up on radar or have a discernable heat signature? Quote
halfmanhalfbronco Posted December 13, 2024 Posted December 13, 2024 On 12/13/2024 at 2:35 PM, Buttermaker said: Didn't ask why come to earth. The question was why fly around and let us see them but not contact us. That makes no sense to me at all and it is not what we would do... we'd actually land or reach out. Your only evidence is unidentified objects flying in the sky that you don't understand. An unidentified object is just that, unidentified. Unidentified doesn't necessarily equal aliens. You can face palm all you want but you don't know any more than anyone else what's happening. If you want to believe they are aliens good for you... Like I said, I'll wait for some actual evidence. The objects defy known science. Again, this not a debate. 1 Quote
Buttermaker Posted December 13, 2024 Posted December 13, 2024 On 12/13/2024 at 2:31 PM, halfmanhalfbronco said: The objects defy known science. Again, this not a debate. lol. i'm not debating you. Believe what you wish, my friend. 1 Quote
halfmanhalfbronco Posted December 13, 2024 Posted December 13, 2024 On 12/13/2024 at 3:35 PM, Buttermaker said: lol. i'm not debating you. Believe what you wish, my friend. And you continue to ignore actual evidence to believe you know what may or may not motivate an alien species lol. 1 Quote
renoskier Posted December 13, 2024 Posted December 13, 2024 On 12/13/2024 at 2:31 PM, halfmanhalfbronco said: The objects defy known science. Again, this not a debate. how so? Quote
Buttermaker Posted December 13, 2024 Posted December 13, 2024 On 12/13/2024 at 2:40 PM, halfmanhalfbronco said: And you continue to ignore actual evidence to believe you know what may or may not motivate an alien species lol. Whatever you say! lol 1 Quote
halfmanhalfbronco Posted December 13, 2024 Posted December 13, 2024 On 12/13/2024 at 3:43 PM, renoskier said: how so? https://www.popularmechanics.com/military/research/a43298283/ufos-defy-physics-pentagon-study/ Don't have to take my word for it, you can take Harvards and the Pentagons if you wish, though Quote
renoskier Posted December 13, 2024 Posted December 13, 2024 On 12/13/2024 at 2:45 PM, halfmanhalfbronco said: https://www.popularmechanics.com/military/research/a43298283/ufos-defy-physics-pentagon-study/ Don't have to take my word for it, you can take Harvards and the Pentagons if you wish, though umm...that article has nothing to do with NJ drones Quote
Buttermaker Posted December 13, 2024 Posted December 13, 2024 On 12/13/2024 at 2:51 PM, renoskier said: umm...that article has nothing to do with NJ drones Also says this: Despite what seems like a clear sign that something alien is going on, the paper stresses that such anomalies could be explained by more mundane means, i.e. that our human-instruments just aren’t sensitive enough to understand what’s going on. Quote
halfmanhalfbronco Posted December 13, 2024 Posted December 13, 2024 On 12/13/2024 at 3:51 PM, renoskier said: umm...that article has nothing to do with NJ drones Correct. The subject changed to the UAP sightings Quote
Buttermaker Posted December 13, 2024 Posted December 13, 2024 And this: In other words, these UFOs could be nothing more than sensor-induced optical illusions. This is a noteworthy explanation as Loeb has been described as more of a UFO “believer” than his colleagues. Loeb created some controversy in 2017 when suggesting the cigar-shaped 'Oumuamua (meaning “messenger from afar arriving first”), one of only two interstellar objects to ever enter the solar system, could be an artificially made object. Quote
halfmanhalfbronco Posted December 13, 2024 Posted December 13, 2024 On 12/13/2024 at 3:53 PM, Buttermaker said: And this: In other words, these UFOs could be nothing more than sensor-induced optical illusions. This is a noteworthy explanation as Loeb has been described as more of a UFO “believer” than his colleagues. Loeb created some controversy in 2017 when suggesting the cigar-shaped 'Oumuamua (meaning “messenger from afar arriving first”), one of only two interstellar objects to ever enter the solar system, could be an artificially made object. These objects are moving at speeds and changing direction in ways our current technology can't match. Not close. Did you watch the congregational hearings? Evidence is pretty overwhelming. 1 Quote
halfmanhalfbronco Posted December 13, 2024 Posted December 13, 2024 Anyways, back to the drones. Aliens or not this story is fascinating. https://www.forbes.com/sites/stephenpastis/2024/12/13/mystery-drones-over-new-jersey-and-nearby-states-possible-drone-sightings-now-reported-in-connecticut-updating/ Quote
halfmanhalfbronco Posted December 14, 2024 Posted December 14, 2024 From NY tonight. Apparently all over Holbrook MA as well. Crazy shit, man Quote
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