Elon Musk targeting individuals

[mugtang]

On 11/29/2024 at 12:58 PM, Slapdad said:

He didn't dox them, he reposted a Tweet by the datahazard account, which appears to bill itself as some sort of government watchdog account. Musk retweeting it will put significantly more eyes on it, but 1) he did not "dox" anyone and 2) Under open government laws specified in 5 U.S.C. § 552, the names, titles, and salaries of all civilian government employees are considered public information, so the original post is not doxxing either. Had a personal address, phone number or email been included, then that would be a different story. Does it suck...yes, but that comes with the territory when you're a government employee...especially higher up the food chain. 

How dare you question or correct my talking points. 

[Slapdad]

On 11/29/2024 at 3:02 PM, mugtang said:

How dare you question or correct my talking points. 

I'm not questioning them, I'm just telling you they're wrong. Big difference. 

 

[thelawlorfaithful]

On 11/29/2024 at 12:58 PM, Slapdad said:

He didn't dox them, he reposted a Tweet by the datahazard account, which appears to bill itself as some sort of government watchdog account. Musk retweeting it will put significantly more eyes on it, but 1) he did not "dox" anyone and 2) Under open government laws specified in 5 U.S.C. § 552, the names, titles, and salaries of all civilian government employees are considered public information, so the original post is not doxxing either. Had a personal address, phone number or email been included, then that would be a different story. Does it suck...yes, but that comes with the territory when you're a government employee...especially higher up the food chain. 

And the posted CNN article directs to the same tweet for anyone who is actually upset about this sort of thing, which is nobody.

[halfmanhalfbronco]

On 11/29/2024 at 2:53 PM, thelawlorfaithful said:

And the posted CNN article directs to the same tweet for anyone who is actually upset about this sort of thing, which is nobody.

It's just more faux outrage about things he doesn't understand by @Sactowndog

[Sactowndog]

On 11/29/2024 at 1:58 PM, Slapdad said:

He didn't dox them, he reposted a Tweet by the datahazard account, which appears to bill itself as some sort of government watchdog account. Musk retweeting it will put significantly more eyes on it, but 1) he did not "dox" anyone and 2) Under open government laws specified in 5 U.S.C. § 552, the names, titles, and salaries of all civilian government employees are considered public information, so the original post is not doxxing either. Had a personal address, phone number or email been included, then that would be a different story. Does it suck...yes, but that comes with the territory when you're a government employee...especially higher up the food chain. 

Sure he didn’t Dox them but he didn’t direct multiple of his fan boys like HMHB to harass them.  If Elon wants to recommend cuts he might want to stop being a dick as to truly cut them requires Congressional approval.   

[retrofade]

On 11/29/2024 at 3:16 PM, halfmanhalfbronco said:

It's just more faux outrage about things he doesn't understand by @Sactowndog

Sactown didn't say that Elmo doxxed them. He said that Elmo targeted them individually, which is accurate. 

[halfmanhalfbronco]

On 11/29/2024 at 5:23 PM, retrofade said:

Sactown didn't say that Elmo doxxed them. He said that Elmo targeted them individually, which is accurate. 

Most people don't get a several months advanced notice they could be fired.  I think he did them a favor.  Time for these useless bureaucrats to update their LinkedIn.  

[RSF]

According to the Worker Adjustment and Retraining Notification (WARN) Act, the standard advance notice period for layoffs is 60 days for employers with 100 or more employees planning a mass layoff or plant closure; meaning they must provide written notice to affected employees at least 60 days before the layoff takes effect

[Wyobraska]

How is it legal for someone like Musk who's companies suck so much money from the Federal Teat be allowed to decide anything financially related to the government?  

[SharkTanked]

On 11/29/2024 at 6:34 PM, RSF said:

According to the Worker Adjustment and Retraining Notification (WARN) Act, the standard advance notice period for layoffs is 60 days for employers with 100 or more employees planning a mass layoff or plant closure; meaning they must provide written notice to affected employees at least 60 days before the layoff takes effect

Their stated goal is to get as many as possible to quit on their own so they don't have to worry about that. They did announce a healthy severance package. 

Musk's implied goal is likely to maximize his own business profit by steering as much government money as possible towards his contracts.

[SalinasSpartan]

So is DOGE actually going to be a department? Or are they just going to be consultants and the name is strictly for the lulz? 

[azgreg]

On 11/30/2024 at 11:55 AM, SalinasSpartan said:

So is DOGE actually going to be a department?

That's up to Congress.

[Chile_Ute]

On 11/30/2024 at 6:28 PM, azgreg said:

That's up to Congress.

…so it will be eventually.

[PokeTransplant]

On 11/30/2024 at 6:12 PM, Chile_Ute said:

…so it will be eventually.

not enough time.  looking at a 18 month window to actually get anything started.  the mid-terms will decide if anything tertiary actually gets through

[Chile_Ute]

On 11/30/2024 at 8:49 PM, PokeTransplant said:

not enough time.  looking at a 18 month window to actually get anything started.  the mid-terms will decide if anything tertiary actually gets through

Not entirely convinced that there isn’t some back door fast track that suddenly appears.  We’ll see.

[SalinasSpartan]

On 11/30/2024 at 5:28 PM, azgreg said:

That's up to Congress.

What I meant was, I wonder if they are actually planning on trying to make this a department? Or, was this envisioned as a commission from the start and the “department” in the name was just branding?

[HR_poke]

On 11/30/2024 at 10:27 PM, SalinasSpartan said:

What I meant was, I wonder if they are actually planning on trying to make this a department? Or, was this envisioned as a commission from the start and the “department” in the name was just branding?

Probably just branding.  Sounds like it's more of a commission.
Curious to see if they go after the military industrial complex after the DOD failed its 7th audit.  

[thehowlin]

Musk is the same guy who called a man who risked his own life to save a group of strangers from a flooded cave in Thailand a “pedo guy” when the rescue team rebuffed his hair-brained attempts to help.

He might be brilliant, but he’s a deeply flawed human being.

[SalinasSpartan]

On 12/2/2024 at 6:07 AM, HR_poke said:

Probably just branding.  Sounds like it's more of a commission.
Curious to see if they go after the military industrial complex after the DOD failed its 7th audit.  

I am curious how much of their recommendations will just be them saying “fill in the blank government function” should be outsourced to companies that Musk or Vance’s Silicon Valley friends have ownership interests in.
 

Or in other words, things that are “corruption” in any other country, but are “innovation” (or something) when a tech bro does it. 

[HR_poke]

On 12/2/2024 at 9:02 AM, SalinasSpartan said:

I am curious how much of their recommendations will just be them saying “fill in the blank government function” should be outsourced to companies that Musk or Vance’s Silicon Valley friends have ownership interests in.
 

Or in other words, things that are “corruption” in any other country, but are “innovation” (or something) when a tech bro does it. 

that's my concern as well.