CFP Rankings 11/26/24

[Tripoda]

On 11/19/2024 at 10:01 PM, Tripoda said:

A little too much info. And congratulations on making a lot money. You good looking? Share the websit. 

Wait. You're half man. I dont want to see none of that. YOU can keep that shit.

[Brew_Poke]

On 11/19/2024 at 5:28 PM, bornontheblue said:

As of today Boise State would get a first round bye because we are rated higher than the B12 leader. 

Go Arizona State !!! 
 

Gonna suck when you take that L in Laradise, lol.

[Hashbrowns]

On 11/19/2024 at 7:09 PM, Brew_Poke said:

Gonna suck when you take that L in Laradise, lol.

[tailingpermit]

On 11/19/2024 at 10:09 PM, Brew_Poke said:

Gonna suck when you take that L in Laradise, lol.

Haven’t we already, playing there at the end of November?

[halfmanhalfbronco]

On 11/19/2024 at 8:01 PM, Tripoda said:

A little too much info. And congratulations on making a lot money. You good looking? Share the websit. 

The real point here is you sound like a retard talking football...let's stick to that...

[dtd]

On 11/19/2024 at 7:33 PM, Tripoda said:

Oregon vs Oregon State game was a close game also.

I thought this was some sarcasm I wasn't getting, but you're actually serious? Oregon didn't punt. They scored on every single non end of half drive. They gained more than 95% of the available yards. 

[Rebel_Alliance]

Outside of the Boise Bubble, this is actually what the rest of the country thinks about your irrelevant poverty program.

 

[BSUTOP25]

On 11/21/2024 at 8:29 AM, Rebel_Alliance said:

Outside of the Boise Bubble, this is actually what the rest of the country thinks about your irrelevant poverty program.

 

lol - get out of here with your welfare whore mouth

[Pelado]

On 11/19/2024 at 6:29 PM, Slappy said:

Funny how Byu all of the sudden gets multiple losses to be relieved of a playoff spot.  This system is so broke.  Are you telling me all of the sudden Byu is an Alabama / Georgia team.  The same Byu that Boise beats on the regular.  Not buying this stuff.  Need some law suits to change this mess.  If Byu is winning the Big 12 how good can it really be?  Seriously, this needs to be adjusted.  

Sounds like you're not familiar with how the playoff works.  If BYU keeps winning, they will win the Big 12 championship and, in all likelihood, be included in the playoff.  There's obviously no guarantee they'll win the Big 12 title (could very easily lose again this week to Arizona State), but if they keep winning, they'll pretty much be in.

On 11/19/2024 at 7:33 PM, Jersey Rebels said:

Because a moron who doesn't know shit talks constantly? 

At least wait until smarter heads enter the chat. 

What's his life expectancy?  Does he have enough time to wait for that?

[Slappy]

On 11/21/2024 at 2:37 PM, Pelado said:

Sounds like you're not familiar with how the playoff works.  If BYU keeps winning, they will win the Big 12 championship and, in all likelihood, be included in the playoff.  There's obviously no guarantee they'll win the Big 12 title (could very easily lose again this week to Arizona State), but if they keep winning, they'll pretty much be in.

My point was that if Byu was in the MW or Indy they would not be in the top 15 with that loss, this late in the season.  It’s still just Byu.  But the Big12 version has to have its leader in striking distance.  It just fake, that’s all.  If Byu was in the MW right now Army would have passed them.  I think I do understand how the playoffs work and the MW and AAC champ should be in front of the Big12 Byu team.  Both those teams best Byu handily in my opinion.  But who knows.  We will see how it all plays out. 

[Pelado]

On 11/21/2024 at 7:52 PM, Slappy said:

My point was that if Byu was in the MW or Indy they would not be in the top 15 with that loss, this late in the season.  It’s still just Byu.  But the Big12 version has to have its leader in striking distance.  It just fake, that’s all.  If Byu was in the MW right now Army would have passed them.  I think I do understand how the playoffs work and the MW and AAC champ should be in front of the Big12 Byu team.  Both those teams best Byu handily in my opinion.  But who knows.  We will see how it all plays out. 

Kansas has a bad record but I believe all but one of their losses was by a single score.  They are a talented team that, for whatever reason, played below their capabilities for much of the season.  It sucks to have lost to them, just like 8-2 Iowa State did the week before.

BYU being ranked #14 while being 9-1 is reasonable, especially considering that their schedule strength is actually pretty good, even when compared to the rest of the CFP top 15.

As to the AAC and/or MW champion being ranked higher than BYU, we can speculate on what would happen if those teams were to play, but there's no way to know until the game is actually played.  And since the football is oddly shaped, sometimes it bounces in your favor and other times not so much.  For example, BYU benefitted from an odd bounce on a muffled punt that resulted in a return for a touchdown and big victory against Kansas State. 

Then, against Kansas, the Jayhawks lined up as if they were going for it on 4th down but instead their QB punted it, striking a BYU defender in the back (who was in man coverage and didn't even realize there was a punt), then the ball bounced off a BYU player trying to recover the muff, and Kansas recovered inside the BYU 5 yard line, which led to the go-ahead score for Kansas.  Sometimes the ball just doesn't bounce your way, even if you're the better team.

BYU is not yet and may very well not end up being the Big 12 champion.  The most likely way they become the champion is by winning this week on the road against a ranked ASU, beating Houston next week, and then beating a ranked Colorado team in the title game.  You don't think a 12-1 BYU (with wins over #13 SMU, #24 ASU, #16 Colorado, Kansas State, etc.) would be worthy of a playoff spot? 

You think Tulane (who lost to the same Kansas State team BYU beat by double digits) and/or an Army team (with the worst schedule strength in the nation so far) should be ranked better than BYU right now?

[Slappy]

On 11/22/2024 at 12:01 AM, Pelado said:

You don't think a 12-1 BYU (with wins over #13 SMU, #24 ASU, #16 Colorado, Kansas State, etc.) would be worthy of a playoff spot? 

Of course the Big12 champ deserves a spot.  But so does the AAC, MW champs.  My point was along the lines of how over inflated the G4 conferences value is.  Your quote above it kind of makes my point.  SMU, ASU, Colorado, Kstate.  Those aren’t really football powers.   Are they playing better in conference thanks to realignment.  Yes. But the Big 12 champ is no better than the MW or AAC champ.  I believe this will be shown over time,  if the smaller conferences can hold on while getting financially choked out of playing for a national title.  For the life of me I don’t know why this is not in the court system.  Good luck in the b12.  Hope you guys do win it. 

[Pelado]

On 11/22/2024 at 11:26 AM, Slappy said:

Of course the Big12 champ deserves a spot.  But so does the AAC, MW champs.  My point was along the lines of how over inflated the G4 conferences value is.  Your quote above it kind of makes my point.  SMU, ASU, Colorado, Kstate.  Those aren’t really football powers.   Are they playing better in conference thanks to realignment.  Yes. But the Big 12 champ is no better than the MW or AAC champ.  I believe this will be shown over time,  if the smaller conferences can hold on while getting financially choked out of playing for a national title.  For the life of me I don’t know why this is not in the court system.  Good luck in the b12.  Hope you guys do win it. 

I have long advocated for a 16-team playoff including all conference champions.  But there's no way the SEC and Big 10 would agree to that many slots for the G5/G6.

While there's still a possibility of the champions of the Big 12, MW, and AAC all being included in the playoff this season, that possibility is quite remote.  It would likely require the ACC champion (Miami, SMU, Clemson?) to be ranked lower than the Big 12/MW/AAC champions.

It's kind of funny that you dismiss BYU's wins (and prospective wins) saying "Those aren't really football powers."  Who have the prospective AAC and MW champions beat this season who are football powers? 

The Massey Ratings are a composite average of 89 different college football ranking systems.  Here's how it currently ranks the primary contenders in the AAC, Big 12, and MW:

• BYU - 15 (highest individual ranking of 3, lowest individual ranking of 34)
• Boise State - 17 (highest - 4, lowest - 46)
• Colorado - 18 (highest - 6, lowest - 40)
• Iowa State - 19 (highest - 11, lowest - 31)
• Tulane - 20 (highest - 6, lowest - 52)
• Kansas State - 21 (highest - 14, lowest - 42)
• Arizona State - 22 (highest - 17, lowest - 52)
• Army - 25 (highest - 4, lowest - 72)
• UNLV - 32 (highest - 16, lowest - 63)
• Colorado State - 77 (highest - 36, lowest - 102)

BYU's FBS wins so far per the Massey Ratings are:

• SMU - 11
• Kansas State - 21
• Baylor - 33
• UCF - 56
• Utah - 70
• Arizona - 81
• Oklahoma State - 88
• Wyoming - 123

Boise State's:

• UNLV - 32
• Washington State - 39
• Georgia Southern - 72
• San Jose State - 89
• Nevada - 110
• Hawaii - 112
• Utah State - 113
• San Diego State - 119

Tulane's:

• Louisiana - 50
• Navy - 58
• South Florida - 91
• North Texas - 94
• Rice - 106
• Charlotte - 111
• Temple - 121
• UAB - 122

Army's:

• East Carolina - 93
• North Texas - 94
• Air Force - 114
• Florida Atlantic - 127
• Rice - 106
• Temple - 121
• UAB - 122
• Tulsa - 128

UNLV's:

• Kansas - 47 (wish I could put this one on BYU's win list)
• Houston - 85
• Fresno State - 95
• Oregon State - 105
• Hawaii - 112
• Utah State - 113
• San Diego State - 119

Colorado State's:

• San Jose State - 89
• New Mexico - 107
• Nevada - 110
• Air Force - 114
• Wyoming - 123
• UTEP - 130

And now for the losses:

BYU:

• Kansas - 47

Boise State

• Oregon - 2

Tulane

• Kansas State - 21
• Oklahoma - 42

Army

• NA

UNLV

• Boise State - 17
• Syracuse - 38

Colorado State

• Texas - 3
• Colorado - 18
• Oregon State - 105

Good on Army for being udefeated, but all of their opponents are ranked worse than all but one of BYU's opponents so far this season (Wyoming, I'm looking at you).  If BYU were playing that schedule, I'd be really disappointed if they weren't undefeated.  Army's weak schedule changes a bit this week when they face Notre Dame.  I'm not expecting Army to prevail in that game. 

Tulane has notched a couple of wins that are much more impressive than anyone Army has beat (Louisiana, Navy), but has also lost twice.

Colorado State's wins aren't any more impressive than Army's, but they've also dropped three games, including one to Oregon State (how?). 

UNLV's best win so far is against the Kansas team that took down BYU, so good on them for that.  Their losses aren't bad.  But if BSU and CSU continue to win, UNLV is locked out of the conference title game and their only shot at the playoff is an at-large spot (not going to happen).

Boise State's best win is against #32 UNLV (rated higher than any of the teams Army, Tulane, Colorado State, or UNLV have beat) and it's tough to fault them much for their close loss at Oregon.  It's unfortunate that their remaining schedule doesn't give them much opportunity to improve their standing (#123 Wyoming, #105 Oregon State, #77 Colorado State?).

BYU's home loss to Kansas isn't as defensible as Boise State's road loss to Oregon, but BYU has two wins rated better than any of Boise State's (#11 SMU, #21 Kansas State) and only has one 100+ team on their schedule (looking at you, again, Wyoming) compared to the 6 that Boise State will likely finish with.  Additionally, BYU can add to their resume if they keep winning (#22 Arizona State, #85 Houston, #18 Colorado?).

In summary, no need to be up in arms about BYU currently being ranked #14 in the CFP.  That ranking is definitely within the realm of reasonableness.  If BYU doesn't win out, they won't be in the playoff.  If they do win out, I'm confident they will be in the playoff.  Same for Boise State.  If both BYU and Boise State win out, then the AAC champion is probably left out unless some funky things happen in the ACC resulting in the ACC champion being ranked lower than the AAC champ.

[Slappy]

Nice post above.  Wouldn’t mind seeing the scenario where the Acc champ gets squeezed.   Tommorow is a big day for all.  Especially the little guys hoping for chaos, as the main way to get a fighting shot. 

[Jersey Rebels]

UNLV comes in at 21 in the coaches and AP. 

Tulane at 18 in both. 

Boise 11 in both. 

I think they'll probably be the same in playoffs, meaning UNLV needs Tulane to lose to get the playoff spot. 

 

Either way, surreal that the MWC is poised to get a BYE in the playoffs. LMFAO at the Big 12. 

[ph90702]

This ain’t poo-poo!  This ain’t fe-ces!  This ain’t sca-at!  This ain’t du-ung!

[Pelado]

Updating my earlier post for Massey ratings after last week's games:

The Massey Ratings are a composite average of 89 different college football ranking systems.  Here's how it currently ranks the primary contenders in the AAC, Big 12, and MW:

• Iowa State - 15 (highest - 7, lowest - 33)
• BYU - 16 (highest individual ranking of 7, lowest individual ranking of 42)
• Boise State - 17 (highest - 5, lowest - 50)
• Colorado - 23 (highest - 13, lowest - 41)
• Kansas State - 19 (highest - 13, lowest - 33)
• Arizona State - 20 (highest - 12, lowest - 57)
• Tulane - 22 (highest - 6, lowest - 52)
• UNLV - 29 (highest - 12, lowest - 62)
• Army - 31 (highest - 8, lowest - 75)
• Colorado State - 83 (highest - 44, lowest - 101)

BYU's FBS wins so far per the Massey Ratings are:

• SMU - 9
• Kansas State - 19
• Baylor - 33
• UCF - 63
• Utah - 72
• Arizona - 84
• Oklahoma State - 92
• Wyoming - 123

Boise State's:

• UNLV - 29
• Washington State - 52
• Georgia Southern - 66
• San Jose State - 95
• Utah State - 109
• Hawaii - 113
• Nevada - 115
• Wyoming - 123
• San Diego State - 124

Tulane's:

• Louisiana - 43
• Navy - 55
• South Florida - 85
• North Texas - 101
• Charlotte - 107
• Rice - 112
• UAB - 116
• Temple - 122

Army's:

• East Carolina - 87
• North Texas - 101
• Air Force - 108
• Rice - 112
• UAB - 116
• Temple - 122
• Florida Atlantic - 125
• Tulsa - 130

UNLV's:

• Kansas - 37 (wish I could put this one on BYU's win list)
• Houston - 82
• Fresno State - 89
• San Jose State - 95
• Oregon State - 103
• Utah State - 109
• Hawaii - 113
• San Diego State - 124

Colorado State's:

• San Jose State - 95
• New Mexico - 106
• Air Force - 108
• Nevada - 115
• Wyoming - 123
• UTEP - 131

And now for the losses:

BYU:

• Arizona State - 20
• Kansas - 37

Boise State

• Oregon - 2

Tulane

• Kansas State - 19
• Oklahoma - 30

Army

• Notre Dame - 4

UNLV

• Boise State - 17
• Syracuse - 38

Colorado State

• Texas - 3
• Colorado - 23
• Fresno State - 89
• Oregon State - 103

Significant changes:

• BYU and Colorado - after their losses on Saturday - no longer control their own destiny in the Big 12 title race.  BYU needs a loss from either ASU or Iowa State (and a win against Houston) while Colorado, I think, needs losses from two of ASU, ISU, or BYU, as well as a win in their final game.
• Iowa State now has the highest average rank of the Big 12, MW, and AAC teams in serious contention for league championships.
• Army (as I expected) lost big to Notre Dame, missing out on their only regular season opportunity for a top 25 85 win.
• Colorado State picks up a bad loss and is now in a tie with UNLV for the second spot in the conference championship game.  Don't know the tiebreakers, but would assume UNLV has the advantage.
• A UNLV rematch in the MW title game is better for Boise State than facing Colorado State since UNLV is rated/ranked so much higher than CSU.

Also of note:

• Tulane falls a bit in the Massey ratings but probably won't in the CFP rankings and has a legit shot to pass up the Big 12 champ in the final rankings - especially if more chaos ensues in the Big 12 race.

[Tripoda]

If UNLV beat Boise in the MW CCG it matter little where UNLV ranked if Boise lose to Oregon State. 

Donkeys better focus on winning against OSU.

[Pelado]

On 11/25/2024 at 5:24 PM, Tripoda said:

If UNLV beat Boise in the MW CCG it matter little where UNLV ranked if Boise lose to Oregon State. 

Donkeys better focus on winning against OSU.

OK.

[Jersey Rebels]

UNLV at 22, BYU a 19, Iowa State at 18, Tulane at 17, ASU at 16, and Boise at 11.

 

Tulane may be too high for UNLV to pass even with a win vs Boise. Sucks.