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On 11/18/2024 at 7:30 PM, Wyobraska said:

Sure, but can we build a wall around OK after that is implemented?  They can't fall much further in educational rankings, but they'll give it their best.  

Lol. Actually no. The constitution prohibits states from blocking travel to and from  other states 

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On 11/18/2024 at 1:38 PM, retrofade said:

I don't hate Jesus, but I have serious issues with a lot of his followers and their continued desire to force their religious beliefs down everyone's collective throats. 

Now you know how everyone else feels with pride flags, porn in elementary schools, pushing sexuality/pronoun nonsense and encouraging kids to hide stuff from parents.

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On 11/18/2024 at 8:33 PM, bornontheblue said:

Lol. Actually no. The constitution prohibits states from blocking travel to and from  other states 

There’s a river. All we really have to do is take out a couple bridges. The downside is that makes it harder to get to the casinos. 

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On 11/18/2024 at 8:46 PM, UtGrizfan said:

Now you know how everyone else feels with pride flags, porn in elementary schools, pushing sexuality/pronoun nonsense and encouraging kids to hide stuff from parents.

Kids don’t need encouragement to hide things from their parents. And being scared of a flag is just too funny. 

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On 11/18/2024 at 8:42 PM, RSF said:

Kids don’t need encouragement to hide things from their parents. And being scared of a flag is just too funny. 

Ah yes while liberals are terrified of the Bible 😂

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On 11/18/2024 at 9:44 PM, UtGrizfan said:

Ah yes while liberals are terrified of the Bible 😂

That’ll come as a shock to the Disciples of Christ, the Presbyterians significant number of Roman Catholics and quite a few other denominations. 

 

gotta love a good stereotype…

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On 11/18/2024 at 7:44 PM, UtGrizfan said:

Ah yes while liberals are terrified of the Bible 😂

Go read the Constitution and Bill of Rights.

thanks!

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On 11/18/2024 at 6:33 PM, bornontheblue said:

Lol. Actually no. The constitution prohibits states from blocking travel to and from  other states 

I mean they’re pushing teaching Jesus lessons in public schools in Texas and Oklahoma. Time to build the wall around CA. 

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On 11/18/2024 at 12:36 PM, bornontheblue said:

Why do you hate Jesus? 

Since when do you like Jesus...that's Jesus (Hey-soos). You're rooting for his deportation.

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On 11/18/2024 at 1:14 PM, bornontheblue said:

It was an attempt at humor. 

You are a triggered little baby. 

I don't think Jesus loves you, and that guy frickin loves everybody 

 

That's the problem. You're not humorous.

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On 11/18/2024 at 6:30 PM, Wyobraska said:

Sure, but can we build a wall around OK after that is implemented?  They can't fall much further in educational rankings, but they'll give it their best.  

I wonder if the reservations will see an influx of new residents?

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One of the few times I agree with @retrofade.

I say this as Christian and three time Trump voter.

This is as bad a move as forbidding prayers in schools or forbidding the exchange religious greeting cards on holidays.

If a kid wants to pray, let him or her pray. If they don't want to pray, that's their choice.

No one needs to encourage or discourage the expression or practice of one's religious beliefs in public schools.

 

 

 

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On 11/18/2024 at 11:25 PM, Aslowhiteguy said:

One of the few times I agree with @retrofade.

I say this as Christian and three time Trump voter.

This is as bad a move as forbidding prayers in schools or forbidding the exchange religious greeting cards on holidays.

If a kid wants to pray, let him or her pray. If they don't want to pray, that's their choice.

No one needs to encourage or discourage the expression or practice of one's religious beliefs in public schools.

 

Additionally, I don't like the stealth idea of introducing a particular Christian viewpoint into schools by mandating what is used or said.

I was raised Catholic. Requiring a specific Bible version or a specific Ten Commandments wording that differs from my Christian beliefs is wrong and does not belong in public schools.

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On 11/18/2024 at 1:33 PM, retrofade said:

State Superintendent Ryan Walters emailed every Oklahoma superintendent, saying he's requiring all Oklahoma schools play a roughly 90 second video to all kids who are enrolled and send it to their parents.

There was some confusion after the video went out, Bixby and Edmond Public Schools, said that OSDE recalled the email sent to them before resending the original video, and email with no changes.

Walters has clarified that the video and emails were recalled because of an issue with the link which was corrected in the second email.

In the video, Walters prays for Oklahoma kids and stresses that students do not have to join him in prayer.

He also explains why he created the Department of Religious Liberty and Patriotism within the State Department of Education and its role.

""Dear God, thank you for all the blessings you've given our country. I pray for our leaders to make the right decisions, I pray inparticular for President Donald Trump and his team as they continue to bring about change to the country. I pray for our parents, teachers and kids that they get the best education possible and live high quality lives. I also pray that we continue to teach love of country to our young people, and that our students understand what makes America great and that they continue to love this country. Amen."

 

Several districts have confirmed that they received an email from Walters late Thursday night containing the video of Walters praying and instructions for Oklahoma school districts to have students view it and send it to parents.

News On 6 and News 9 have reached out to districts across the state with several saying they are electing not to show the video. Those schools are Bixby Public Schools, Caney Valley Public Schools, Edmonds Public Schools, Union Public Schools, Owasso Public Schools, Jenks Public Schools, Tulsa Public Schools, and Preston Public Schools.

"I think there's a fine line over what is our responsibility as a school and what is the family's responsibility. Everyone has the right to choose where they go to school and has a right to choose where they go to church, but for us to think that it's our job to impose our will on students' religious freedoms, it's not going to happen here," said Preston Public Schools Superintendent.

Kellyville Public Schools, Collinsville Public Schools, and Oologah Public Schools have not yet responded.

The Office of the Attorney General sent the following statement:

“There is no statutory authority for the state schools superintendent to require all students to watch a specific video. Not only is this edict unenforceable, it is contrary to parents’ rights, local control and individual free-exercise rights."

Mustang Public Schools addressed the directive in a letter to families saying,

"We have received questions about a recent directive from State Superintendent Ryan Walters asking school districts to share a video with families and students. Mustang Public Schools has no plans to interrupt the instructional day to show or send this video; there is no authority or requirement for us to do so. Mr. Walters, through his agencies, has the means to distribute this video should he choose.
Our focus remains on using the school day for local curriculum and activities, thoughtfully developed by our educators and approved by our local school board. If you have any questions or concerns, please feel free to reach out directly."
Thank you for your ongoing support and partnership.

https://www.news9.com/story/6736b96a5d7b991a3b800802/ryan-walters-requires-oklahoma-students-to-watch-prayer-video-some-districts-opt-out

Full video:

 

 

 

The Districts that refuse to show the video, will either have their funding cut, or, their Leadership removed under the threat of cutting funds.

Trumpism is a full move to make America Christian again.

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On 11/18/2024 at 3:04 PM, bornontheblue said:

Busting up the dept of education and then taking 50 percent of their budget and reallocating it as direct grants to states would be fantastic. You would probably get much better outcomes. 

 

 

 

Idaho will get dumber and more religious that's for sure.

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On 11/18/2024 at 7:33 PM, bornontheblue said:

Lol. Actually no. The constitution prohibits states from blocking travel to and from  other states 

Tell that to pregnant women in abortion ban States.

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On 11/20/2024 at 11:23 AM, Spaztecs said:

The Districts that refuse to show the video, will either have their funding cut, or, their Leadership removed under the threat of cutting funds.

Trumpism is a full move to make America Christian again.

This coming from the state that was most worried about Sharia law creeping into American society.

 

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On 11/18/2024 at 8:44 PM, UtGrizfan said:

Ah yes while liberals are terrified of the Bible 😂

You should be.

I guess you're okay with public executions and stonings.

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On 11/20/2024 at 12:28 PM, Spaztecs said:

You should be.

I guess you're okay with public executions and stonings.

For those that commit crimes against women and kids? Absolutely, personally would rather save the taxpayers $$ and use a single bullet

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