Dismantling of the Republic is in full swing

[mysfit]

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2024/nov/12/donald-trump-marco-rubio-juan-merchan-stormy-daniels-us-politics-live

Two items of note

One, the Warrior board which will remove and retire ranking military members deemed insufficiently loyal to Trump. The oath they take is to the Constitution, not any specific person. How many will bend their oath and bend their knees to their new Lord and master?

HR 9495 which is the first horrific attack against free speech. The right to peaceful protest. The right to dissent.

 

[CV147]

Republicans have a long history of going after news organizations. Just look up what Lincoln did to newspapers critical of the civil war. Over 300 were shut down and their editors were arrested.

Republicans today would cheer this. It's horrific but not unexpected.

[CV147]

As far as firing military leaders opposed to him, that's kind of his prerogative as the Commander in Chief isn't it?

Why would the civilian leader of our military want to retain military officers who were opposed to him?

[AztecAlien]

On 11/12/2024 at 3:39 PM, CV147 said:

Republicans have a long history of going after news organizations. Just look up what Lincoln did to newspapers critical of the civil war. Over 300 were shut down and their editors were arrested.

Republicans today would cheer this. It's horrific but not unexpected.

So, do you believe what's happening nearly a quarter of a century into the 21st century regarding the media, no matter what side is justifiable? I think our forefathers who implemented freedom of the press are rolling in their graves, to be honest. 

 

 

[DestinFlPackfan]

On 11/12/2024 at 5:18 PM, AztecAlien said:

So, do you believe what's happening nearly a quarter of a century into the 21st century regarding the media, no matter what side is justifiable? I think our forefathers who implemented freedom of the press are rolling in their graves, to be honest. 

 

 

'Rolling in their graves'....because they can't believe how manipulative and manipulated the press has become.

[Dogs4Me]

On 11/12/2024 at 2:27 PM, mysfit said:

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2024/nov/12/donald-trump-marco-rubio-juan-merchan-stormy-daniels-us-politics-live

Two items of note

One, the Warrior board which will remove and retire ranking military members deemed insufficiently loyal to Trump. The oath they take is to the Constitution, not any specific person. How many will bend their oath and bend their knees to their new Lord and master?

HR 9495 which is the first horrific attack against free speech. The right to peaceful protest. The right to dissent.

 

Might as well cite Wikipedia…

[mysfit]

On 11/12/2024 at 3:41 PM, CV147 said:

As far as firing military leaders opposed to him, that's kind of his prerogative as the Commander in Chief isn't it?

Why would the civilian leader of our military want to retain military officers who were opposed to him?

Military leaders are or were considered apolitical. They did their job, their duty to the Constitution. They owed no one person their loyalty. Honestly, did you not understand that? The military does not owe fealty, never has. That it's now becoming an issue is scary as hell. It raises the chance that they will ignore their duty to the Constitution in order to appease the man. That they will follow illegal orders.

And that should scare the shit out of everyone.

[Sactowndog]

On 11/12/2024 at 2:41 PM, CV147 said:

As far as firing military leaders opposed to him, that's kind of his prerogative as the Commander in Chief isn't it?

Why would the civilian leader of our military want to retain military officers who were opposed to him?

Generally no.  He plans to reach far below Civilian Cabinet level appointments.   This was all laid out but @sean327 and @Dogs4Me said the military would never be politicized.  
 

while he is at it he plans to seize university endowments if they don’t comply with his directives.   Welcome to authoritarianism 

https://twitter.com/rachelbitecofer/status/1856388821673488544?s=46&t=xO6Cs9R-J453VbhMV851tw

[Dogs4Me]

On 11/12/2024 at 4:29 PM, Sactowndog said:

Generally no.  He plans to reach far below Civilian Cabinet level appointments.   This was all laid out but @sean327 and @Dogs4Me said the military would never be politicized.  
 

while he is at it he plans to seize university endowments if they don’t comply with his directives.   Welcome to authoritarianism 

https://twitter.com/rachelbitecofer/status/1856388821673488544?s=46&t=xO6Cs9R-J453VbhMV851tw

LOL…more Trumped up bs from CNN’s @Sactowndog. Let me know when the US military starts kicking in doors…

[SDSUfan]

On 11/12/2024 at 2:27 PM, mysfit said:

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2024/nov/12/donald-trump-marco-rubio-juan-merchan-stormy-daniels-us-politics-live

Two items of note

One, the Warrior board which will remove and retire ranking military members deemed insufficiently loyal to Trump. The oath they take is to the Constitution, not any specific person. How many will bend their oath and bend their knees to their new Lord and master?

HR 9495 which is the first horrific attack against free speech. The right to peaceful protest. The right to dissent.

 

LOL.

Your knowledge of the military consists of once having had a bowl of Capt'n Crunch for breakfast.

The Joint Chiefs are political appointees and do not have command over any troops.  That authority resides in the President, through the Sec Def to the leaders of the individual combatant commands.

Hop[e this helps.  I know it won't because you are a typical retarded leftist goober incapable of critcal thought and reason

Goober on....

 

[bornontheblue]

On 11/12/2024 at 5:29 PM, Sactowndog said:

Generally no.  He plans to reach far below Civilian Cabinet level appointments.   This was all laid out but @sean327 and @Dogs4Me said the military would never be politicized.  
 

while he is at it he plans to seize university endowments if they don’t comply with his directives.   Welcome to authoritarianism 

https://twitter.com/rachelbitecofer/status/1856388821673488544?s=46&t=xO6Cs9R-J453VbhMV851tw

It’s not too late to save yourself and take the MAGA loyalty oath @Sactowndog. 
 

I would take the oath before Trump throws you on jail 

[Sactowndog]

On 11/12/2024 at 4:46 PM, Dogs4Me said:

LOL…more Trumped up bs from CNN’s @Sactowndog. Let me know when the US military starts kicking in doors…

Why do you think he nominated Hegsworth as Defense Secretary instead of a someone traditionally nominated?  @sean327 care to comment.  Why do you think Trump wants to appoint him using a recess appointment. 

 

But Mr. Hegseth is likely to run into opposition from senior military officials and perhaps lawmakers who have served in the military for his embrace of narratives by troops who ran afoul of military justice rules. A former Pentagon official from Mr. Trump’s first term questioned Mr. Hegseth’s lack of experience — other than serving in the military — and raised concerns about his ability to win Senate confirmation, even with a Republican majority in the chamber.

 

[InnZoneU]

On 11/12/2024 at 5:56 PM, Sactowndog said:

Why do you think he nominated Hegsworth as Defense Secretary instead of a someone traditionally nominated?  @sean327 care to comment.  Why do you think Trump wants to appoint him using a recess appointment. 

 

But Mr. Hegseth is likely to run into opposition from senior military officials and perhaps lawmakers who have served in the military for his embrace of narratives by troops who ran afoul of military justice rules. A former Pentagon official from Mr. Trump’s first term questioned Mr. Hegseth’s lack of experience — other than serving in the military — and raised concerns about his ability to win Senate confirmation, even with a Republican majority in the chamber.

It's a reality show. Snookie and The Situation next up

[Sactowndog]

On 11/12/2024 at 5:21 PM, bornontheblue said:

It’s not too late to save yourself and take the MAGA loyalty oath @Sactowndog. 
 

I would take the oath before Trump throws you on jail 

Noted.  I look good in stripes. 
 

@BSUTOP25 this the kind of person you hang out with? 

[sean327]

On 11/12/2024 at 6:04 PM, SDSUfan said:

LOL.

Your knowledge of the military consists of once having had a bowl of Capt'n Crunch for breakfast.

The Joint Chiefs are political appointees and do not have command over any troops.  That authority resides in the President, through the Sec Def to the leaders of the individual combatant commands.

Hop[e this helps.  I know it won't because you are a typical retarded leftist goober incapable of critcal thought and reason

Goober on....

 

The JCS are political appointees. That much is true. But there has been a long tradition in this country of keeping politics out of the military, and it has served us well. Politicizing General Officer appointments is a serious red flag. Here is the officer Oath. It says nothing about loyalty to a President.

The Oath of Office (for officers): "I, _____ (SSAN), having been appointed an officer in the _____ (Military Branch) of the United States, as indicated above in the grade of _____ do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign or domestic, that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservations or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office upon which I am about to enter; So help me God."

The oath is to the Constitution and in turn, the American People. Not the President.

 

[Sactowndog]

On 11/12/2024 at 6:19 PM, sean327 said:

The JCS are political appointees. That much is true. But there has been a long tradition in this country of keeping politics out of the military, and it has served us well. Politicizing General Officer appointments is a serious red flag. Here is the officer Oath. It says nothing about loyalty to a President.

The Oath of Office (for officers): "I, _____ (SSAN), having been appointed an officer in the _____ (Military Branch) of the United States, as indicated above in the grade of _____ do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign or domestic, that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservations or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office upon which I am about to enter; So help me God."

The oath is to the Constitution and in turn, the American People. Not the President.

 

How do you feel about appointing a SECDEF who is known as a critic of the USMCJ?  

[sean327]

On 11/12/2024 at 7:24 PM, Sactowndog said:

How do you feel about appointing a SECDEF who is known as a critic of the USMCJ?  

Not good.

[AztecAlien]

On 11/12/2024 at 7:19 PM, sean327 said:

The JCS are political appointees. That much is true. But there has been a long tradition in this country of keeping politics out of the military, and it has served us well. Politicizing General Officer appointments is a serious red flag. Here is the officer Oath. It says nothing about loyalty to a President.

The Oath of Office (for officers): "I, _____ (SSAN), having been appointed an officer in the _____ (Military Branch) of the United States, as indicated above in the grade of _____ do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign or domestic, that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservations or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office upon which I am about to enter; So help me God."

The oath is to the Constitution and in turn, the American People. Not the President.

 

Sean, I respect you and the dedication you gave our country. But I am going to have to disagree because politics has definitely infiltrated our military. We are at all time lows in recruitment because of it. Lowering the standards for admission isn't the answer either. That's a playbook out communist China. 

 

 

 

 

[Sactowndog]

On 11/12/2024 at 6:25 PM, sean327 said:

Not good.

It’s going to get worse if he gets appointed under a recess appointment. 

[Cowboy Up]

On 11/12/2024 at 7:27 PM, AztecAlien said:

Sean, I respect you and the dedication you gave our country. But I am going to disagree, because politics has definitely infiltrated our military. We are at all time lows in recruitment because of it. Lowering the standards for admission isn't the answer either. That's a playbook out communist China. 

 

 

 

I’m just gonna say if your side lost and the Dems were pulling this shit you’d lose your tiny pea brain!