renoskier Posted December 2, 2024 Posted December 2, 2024 On 12/1/2024 at 7:11 PM, RSF said: I don’t like it either. otoh, the whining about it is going to be epically entertaining. I didn't think he would... it will be entertaining 😎
BYUcougfan Posted December 2, 2024 Posted December 2, 2024 Apparently, before he leaves office he should pardon his son.
Chile_Ute Posted December 2, 2024 Posted December 2, 2024 Pardons a plenty now and shortly after 1/6 a comin’….they are all good at abuse of power. That includes Orange Jesus. 1
masterfrog Posted December 2, 2024 Posted December 2, 2024 It doesn't upset me that he pardons his son. Really it just sort of reinforces my opinion on Joe Biden. 3
stanfordchef Posted December 2, 2024 Posted December 2, 2024 who gives a shit lol like nobody saw this coming
SharkTanked Posted December 2, 2024 Posted December 2, 2024 One of the powers of the President that I don't love. 2
SharkTanked Posted December 2, 2024 Posted December 2, 2024 He is who we thought he was. No surprise.
SalinasSpartan Posted December 2, 2024 Posted December 2, 2024 I think there was a legitimate chance Trump would have pardoned him at some point, just to be vindictive. It would have been pretty humiliating to Biden on a personal level to have his own DOJ prosecute his son only to have his hated political rival come and pardon Hunter. 1
SharkTanked Posted December 2, 2024 Posted December 2, 2024 On 12/1/2024 at 10:16 PM, SalinasSpartan said: I think there was a legitimate chance Trump would have pardoned him at some point, just to be vindictive. It would have been pretty humiliating to Biden on a personal level to have his own DOJ prosecute his son only to have his hated political rival come and pardon Hunter. I think it would have been a healing political move. Biden either didn't want to give Trump that win, or more likely, he felt Trump wasn't going to pardon. Either way, Trump wins as Biden looks like the craven politician.
SalinasSpartan Posted December 2, 2024 Posted December 2, 2024 On 12/1/2024 at 10:32 PM, SharkTanked said: I think it would have been a healing political move. Biden either didn't want to give Trump that win, or more likely, he felt Trump wasn't going to pardon. Either way, Trump wins as Biden looks like the craven politician. Yea I would have interpreted that completely differently and more of a move to humiliate Biden.
SharkTanked Posted December 2, 2024 Posted December 2, 2024 On 12/1/2024 at 10:49 PM, SalinasSpartan said: Yea I would have interpreted that completely differently and more of a move to humiliate Biden. I wouldn't. And I don't think that would've been Trump's intent by pardoning. If he wanted to humiliate Joe there are probably a million better ways to do it. I just think this proved Joe didn't think Trump was going to pardon. He's probably right. The timing of Cash$$ Patel as director of FBI might have had something to do with it. And I think Joe was probably right to think Trump wouldn't pardon.
halfmanhalfbronco Posted December 2, 2024 Posted December 2, 2024 On 12/1/2024 at 10:01 PM, stanfordchef said: who gives a shit lol like nobody saw this coming Honestly I think it was so Trump did not have the chance to do so. Trump would have pardoned him and been seen as some captain of clemency lol
halfmanhalfbronco Posted December 2, 2024 Posted December 2, 2024 On 12/1/2024 at 9:34 PM, thelawlorfaithful said: My guess is dead hooker.
RSF Posted December 2, 2024 Posted December 2, 2024 On 12/1/2024 at 10:01 PM, Dogs4Me said: Kinda like the election results for 2024? You and your crew have single-handedly made Mug a millionaire with all of your whining. Me and my crew. I love unintentional humor.
HR_poke Posted December 2, 2024 Posted December 2, 2024 On 12/1/2024 at 11:07 PM, Chile_Ute said: Pardons a plenty now and shortly after 1/6 a comin’….they are all good at abuse of power. That includes Orange Jesus. Yep. Gives trump a pass on any of his cronies that get a pardon now.
thehowlin Posted December 2, 2024 Posted December 2, 2024 I don’t love seeing Biden pardon his son—it's a presidential power I think could use some limits placed on it, but we live in a country that just elected a convicted felon and man whose own vice president said he tried to subvert the Constitution in order to stay in power after he lost the 2020 election. We live in a post-constitutional and post rule of law country. Nobody gives a shit except the partisans and the pearl-clutching elites. Trump pardoned Paul Manafort, Dinesh D’Souza, Michael Flynn, George Papadopoulas, Charles Kushner (now newly appointed Ambassador to France), Roger Stone, Steve Bannon, numerous campaign officials, cronies, benefactors, and in his first week he’ll likely try to pardon himself, and a bunch of “political prisoners” who beat the shit out of Capital Police officers on January 6th. Oh, but “we back the blue.” If the President of the United States wants to pardon his ne'er do well son, that’s currently firmly in his Constitutional power as president. 1
CPslograd Posted December 2, 2024 Posted December 2, 2024 On 12/1/2024 at 8:59 PM, masterfrog said: It doesn't upset me that he pardons his son. Really it just sort of reinforces my opinion on Joe Biden. Exactly right, the dems positioning of Biden as “decent to the core” was always contrived and ridiculous. It does t bother me, it didnt bother me when Bubba pardoned his brother either. Only two instances where I remember caring about outgoing presidents pardons. One, I was idritated when Dubya didnt pardon Marion Jones. She was a young mother, the vast majority of other Olympic sprinters were doing the same thing, she just got caught. Two is when it seemed like Bubba was selling pardons for donations to the Clinton foundation
mysfit Posted December 2, 2024 Posted December 2, 2024 In the climate of retribution I can understand why as a father he would want to protect his son from any potential further prosecution? Or is that even a consideration 1
SalinasSpartan Posted December 2, 2024 Posted December 2, 2024 On 12/1/2024 at 10:54 PM, SharkTanked said: I wouldn't. And I don't think that would've been Trump's intent by pardoning. If he wanted to humiliate Joe there are probably a million better ways to do it. I just think this proved Joe didn't think Trump was going to pardon. He's probably right. The timing of Cash$$ Patel as director of FBI might have had something to do with it. And I think Joe was probably right to think Trump wouldn't pardon. There may have been “better” ways to humiliate him, but this would literally only be something Trump could have done in his role as President, so it’d be a very unique way. Anyways I’m just saying I think Biden wanting to be the one to pardon him was one motivating factor, and probably a pretty minor one. I think mainly he just wanted to help his son and thought it was bullshit he was prosecuted in the first place. When you couple that with him probably giving zero fucks about public perception anymore now that the election is in the rear view, it makes perfect sense that he’d pardon his kid. I wouldn’t say it was “right”, but I do “get it”. 1
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