renoskier Posted November 13 Posted November 13 On 11/13/2024 at 1:09 PM, Dogs4Me said: I believe when they’re being overrun in their own countries by the allah snackbars of the world because they’re soft, caring example for the world goes wrong, they’d probably like a do over. I think the the American liberal has a tendency to hold the eurotrash ideas above American ideals…immigration is one of those key examples. or maybe they're having bigger problems than we are because they don't have "birthright citizenship"? 2
Laconian Posted November 13 Posted November 13 On 11/13/2024 at 3:07 PM, AztecAlien said: He probably doesn't even know what it means, nor realizes that the majority of immigrants that came through Ellis Island did so legally. Then again, look at the source. It's wild how conservatives just talk to talk. 1 1 1
AztecAlien Posted November 13 Posted November 13 On 11/13/2024 at 4:14 PM, Laconian said: It's wild how conservatives just talk to talk. What was wrong about what I posted? Immigrants coming through Ellis Island did so legally. But that had nothing to do with birthrights or U.S. citizenship. And the guy didn't even get the name of the poem right while trying to get involved.
RSF Posted November 13 Posted November 13 On 11/13/2024 at 5:07 PM, AztecAlien said: He probably doesn't even know what it means, nor realizes that the majority of immigrants that came through Ellis Island did so legally. Then again, look at the source. Evidently I didn't reiterate what I was getting at. See my other post. never mind that when most came thru Ellis Island there were few if any restrictions to speak of. https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2015/09/30/how-u-s-immigration-laws-and-rules-have-changed-through-history/
RSF Posted November 13 Posted November 13 Which means most of us are descended from people who basically just walked thru the front door. 1 1
AztecAlien Posted November 13 Posted November 13 On 11/13/2024 at 4:29 PM, RSF said: never mind that when most came thru Ellis Island there were few if any restrictions to speak of. https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2015/09/30/how-u-s-immigration-laws-and-rules-have-changed-through-history/ What's your point? They still came in legally, and it still had nothing to do with birthrights or U.S. citizenship. And didn't you just get on someone for double posting? 1
Laconian Posted November 13 Posted November 13 On 11/13/2024 at 3:20 PM, AztecAlien said: What was wrong about what I posted? Immigrants coming through Ellis Island did so legally. But that had nothing to do with birthrights or becoming a U.S. citizen. And the guy didn't even get the name of the poem right while trying to get involved. What does immigrating legally mean when there were no laws restricting immigration until 1882? And it only really affected Chinese immigrants until 1924. 2
halfmanhalfbronco Posted November 13 Posted November 13 On 11/13/2024 at 4:07 PM, AztecAlien said: He probably doesn't even know what it means, nor realizes that the majority of immigrants that came through Ellis Island did so legally. Then again, look at the source. Evidently I didn't reiterate what I was getting at. See my other post. I'm not joining the pissing match. Just wanted to draw a distinction between the poem on our mom's nickname for @Madmartigan 1
tailingpermit Posted November 13 Posted November 13 On 11/13/2024 at 6:29 PM, RSF said: Which means most of us are descended from people who basically just walked thru the front door. Speak for yourself, Elizabeth Warren and I are special.
halfmanhalfbronco Posted November 13 Posted November 13 On 11/13/2024 at 4:34 PM, tailingpermit said: Speak for yourself, Elizabeth Warren and I are special. Wait, do you actually have indigenous blood? The dream is to find a pretty Nez Perce girl who will let me fish and hint the rez. 1
AztecAlien Posted November 13 Posted November 13 On 11/13/2024 at 4:33 PM, Laconian said: What does immigrating legally mean when there were no laws restricting immigration until 1882? And it only really affected Chinese immigrants until 1924. Well, seeing how there's a lot talk coming from the left regarding illegal immigration and birthrights and citizenship, I thought I'd point it out that immigrants coming in legally don't get birthrights or citizenship because of it. 1 1
renoskier Posted November 13 Posted November 13 On 11/13/2024 at 3:37 PM, AztecAlien said: Well, seeing how there's a lot talk coming from the left regarding illegal immigration and birthrights and citizenship, I thought I'd point it out that immigrants coming in legally don't get birthrights or citizenship because of it. right. so the topic is "birthright citizenship" what are your thoughts?
tailingpermit Posted November 13 Posted November 13 On 11/13/2024 at 6:36 PM, halfmanhalfbronco said: Wait, do you actually have indigenous blood? The dream is to find a pretty Nez Perce girl who will let me fish and hint the rez. I’ll let you know when my ancestory.com results come back, but until then - yes! 1
Laconian Posted November 13 Posted November 13 On 11/13/2024 at 3:37 PM, AztecAlien said: Well, seeing how there's a lot talk coming from the left regarding illegal immigration and birthrights and citizenship, I thought I'd point it out that immigrants coming in legally don't get birthrights or citizenship because of it. What are you trying to say here? That people who weren't born here weren't born here? Again, conservative diarrhea of the mouth is wild. 1
AztecAlien Posted November 13 Posted November 13 On 11/13/2024 at 4:41 PM, Laconian said: What are you trying to say here? That people who weren't born here weren't born here? Again, conservative diarrhea of the mouth is wild. Whatever sock. And that's not what I'm saying at all.
AztecAlien Posted November 13 Posted November 13 On 11/13/2024 at 4:39 PM, renoskier said: right. so the topic is "birthright citizenship" what are your thoughts? I think if someone is born in the U.S. by two parents that are here legally but are not U.S.citizens, they should have birthrights regardless and become U.S. citizens immediately. I also think just saying anyone regardless that's born on U.S. soil has birthrights is like opening up a can of worms. Too many scenarios to list. Maybe the laws regarding birthrights and citizenship need to be looked at a little more carefully.
Sactowndog Posted November 13 Posted November 13 On 11/13/2024 at 3:07 PM, AztecAlien said: He probably doesn't even know what it means, nor realizes that the majority of immigrants that came through Ellis Island did so legally. Then again, look at the source. Evidently I didn't reiterate what I was getting at. See my other post. Not sure what you mean by legally. Look at the early years of the country. https://www.cato.org/policy-analysis/brief-history-us-immigration-policy-colonial-period-present-day 1
AztecAlien Posted November 14 Posted November 14 On 11/13/2024 at 4:57 PM, Sactowndog said: Not sure what you mean by legally. Look at the early years of the country. https://www.cato.org/policy-analysis/brief-history-us-immigration-policy-colonial-period-present-day Ok, they were welcomed and many went through the process of becoming U.S. citizens. Only a small amount were detained due to health concerns. Nitpick much?
Laconian Posted November 14 Posted November 14 On 11/13/2024 at 3:45 PM, AztecAlien said: Whatever sock. And that's not what I'm saying at all. Not a sock. Just recently came from the other board. Then say what you want to say clearly. Because what you wrote says that people who weren't born here don't get the birthrights from being born here. If you're looking to argue that they should, I'm sure we could have that argument. Otherwise, what does that have to do with anything?
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