azgreg Posted November 7 Posted November 7 Trump wants a mass deportation. How's it going to work? https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/trump-says-no-price-tag-mass-deportation-plan-rcna179178 President-elect Donald Trump told NBC News on Thursday that one of his first priorities upon taking office in January would be to make the border “strong and powerful.” When questioned about his campaign promise of mass deportations, Trump said his administration would have “no choice” but to carry them out. As a candidate, Trump had repeatedly vowed to carry out the "largest deportation effort in American history." Asked about the cost of his plan, he said, "It’s not a question of a price tag. It’s not — really, we have no choice. When people have killed and murdered, when drug lords have destroyed countries, and now they’re going to go back to those countries because they’re not staying here. There is no price tag." Here's a link to teh Project 2025 document: https://static.project2025.org/2025_MandateForLeadership_FULL.pdf Homeland Security stuff starts on page 133.
Dogs4Me Posted November 7 Posted November 7 I’ve been driving all over town the last two days snapping up people that aren’t white, don’t speak English, look trans, wearing rainbow clothes, and of course anyone black. I’ve filled at least two cattle trailers with “those people”. Oh yeah, let the cleansing begin! ***this is sarcasm and satire for you dumbfucks that don’t get it*** 2 1 2
tailingpermit Posted November 7 Posted November 7 On 11/7/2024 at 6:05 PM, Dogs4Me said: I’ve been driving all over town the last two days snapping up people that aren’t white, don’t speak English, look trans, wearing rainbow clothes, and of course anyone black. I’ve filled at least two cattle trailers with “those people”. Oh yeah, let the cleansing begin! Woof, going to be a tough Saturday for Fresno football. You may want to wait until after bowl season. 4
Dogs4Me Posted November 7 Posted November 7 On 11/7/2024 at 3:08 PM, tailingpermit said: Woof, going to be a tough Saturday for Fresno football. You may want to wait until after bowl season. All remaining games are away, we’re cool…to be fair, it might not even matter though.
Nevada Convert Posted November 8 Posted November 8 On 11/7/2024 at 1:59 PM, azgreg said: Trump wants a mass deportation. How's it going to work? https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/trump-says-no-price-tag-mass-deportation-plan-rcna179178 President-elect Donald Trump told NBC News on Thursday that one of his first priorities upon taking office in January would be to make the border “strong and powerful.” When questioned about his campaign promise of mass deportations, Trump said his administration would have “no choice” but to carry them out. As a candidate, Trump had repeatedly vowed to carry out the "largest deportation effort in American history." Asked about the cost of his plan, he said, "It’s not a question of a price tag. It’s not — really, we have no choice. When people have killed and murdered, when drug lords have destroyed countries, and now they’re going to go back to those countries because they’re not staying here. There is no price tag." Here's a link to teh Project 2025 document: https://static.project2025.org/2025_MandateForLeadership_FULL.pdf Homeland Security stuff starts on page 133. It’s all election BS. Very few are going home, there a long process to kick anyone out that has future court dates. New immigrants coming in is a different story. Trump will tell Mexico that we’re putting a 500% tariff on anything unless Mexico puts their military on the southern and northern border. In return, the US will help, supervise, train growing Mexican special forces units that will bring the cartels to their knees. Big operation. Mexico needs the US to survive and they’ll do anything we tell them to do. Cartels are one of Trump’s major goals, and it will happen. 1 2 3
SharkTanked Posted November 8 Posted November 8 On 11/7/2024 at 11:28 PM, Nevada Convert said: It’s all election BS. Very few are going home, there a long process to kick anyone out that has future court dates. New immigrants coming in is a different story. Trump will tell Mexico that we’re putting a 500% tariff on anything unless Mexico puts their military on the southern and northern border. In return, the US will help, supervise, train growing Mexican special forces units that will bring the cartels to their knees. Big operation. Mexico needs the US to survive and they’ll do anything we tell them to do. Cartels are one of Trump’s major goals, and it will happen. Yeah Trump is the guy who is gonna take down the cartels. LMAO. 1 2 2
Nevada Convert Posted November 8 Posted November 8 On 11/7/2024 at 11:48 PM, SharkTanked said: Yeah Trump is the guy who is gonna take down the cartels. LMAO. The US Military in not Trump. Fool. 1 1
SharkTanked Posted November 8 Posted November 8 On 11/7/2024 at 11:28 PM, Nevada Convert said: Cartels are one of Trump’s major goals, and it will happen. On 11/7/2024 at 11:48 PM, SharkTanked said: Yeah Trump is the guy who is gonna take down the cartels. LMAO. On 11/7/2024 at 11:54 PM, Nevada Convert said: The US Military in not Trump. Fool. 1 3
halfmanhalfbronco Posted November 8 Posted November 8 Invest heavily in state funded rehab. Getting people clean instead of isolating them to criminal circles is more feasible than a "limited military operation" in Mexico lol
Akkula Posted November 8 Posted November 8 On 11/8/2024 at 1:28 AM, Nevada Convert said: It’s all election BS. Very few are going home, there a long process to kick anyone out that has future court dates. New immigrants coming in is a different story. Trump will tell Mexico that we’re putting a 500% tariff on anything unless Mexico puts their military on the southern and northern border. In return, the US will help, supervise, train growing Mexican special forces units that will bring the cartels to their knees. Big operation. Mexico needs the US to survive and they’ll do anything we tell them to do. Cartels are one of Trump’s major goals, and it will happen. Yeah, Trump is just going to strong arm everyone to his will. Why didn't that work the first time? Why didn't mexico pay for the wall? China will jump at the opportunity to get very close with Mexico if the US tries to unilaterally impose its will. The USA is going to alienate all of its allies in Latin America and China will be there to offer a helping hand and sympathetic ear. After seeing the Russian paper tiger in action. Europe is probably ready to tell Trump to buzz off as well. South Koreans are highly in favor of getting nukes. 80 years after WWII the world is ready to shed its unreliable partner. Electing a mercurial loose cannon for a second time is proof the USA cannot be their long-term solution. The world will make moves to ensure they are not susceptible to being strong armed. 2 1 1
Akkula Posted November 8 Posted November 8 Democrats should get out of the way and let Trump do what he wants on immigration. Let him do mass deportations. But FORCE him to actually pass a law. Only good can come of it. Either he solves the problem and MAGA has nothing to run on OR he royally screws it up. I don't believe Trumpists have any actual legislative ideas. They hope Democrats will filibuster so they can blame Democrats for nothing getting passed and preserve the issue. Democrats should allow Republicans to own this and bring it up daily until Republicans get something passed.
Buttermaker Posted November 8 Posted November 8 On 11/7/2024 at 11:54 PM, Nevada Convert said: The US Military in not Trump. Fool. I thought trump was the non-war president?
Buttermaker Posted November 8 Posted November 8 On 11/8/2024 at 2:55 AM, Akkula said: Yeah, Trump is just going to strong arm everyone to his will. Why didn't that work the first time? Why didn't mexico pay for the wall? China will jump at the opportunity to get very close with Mexico if the US tries to unilaterally impose its will. The USA is going to alienate all of its allies in Latin America and China will be there to offer a helping hand and sympathetic ear. After seeing the Russian paper tiger in action. Europe is probably ready to tell Trump to buzz off as well. South Koreans are highly in favor of getting nukes. 80 years after WWII the world is ready to shed its unreliable partner. Electing a mercurial loose cannon for a second time is proof the USA cannot be their long-term solution. The world will make moves to ensure they are not susceptible to being strong armed. trumps plan is more power for me. and all those in his circle are thinking the same thing. he'll do whatever he thinks gets him that. which of course is likely to cause a bigger mess than what we have with immigration and the border
happycamper Posted November 8 Posted November 8 On 11/8/2024 at 2:28 AM, Nevada Convert said: It’s all election BS. Very few are going home, there a long process to kick anyone out that has future court dates. New immigrants coming in is a different story. Trump will tell Mexico that we’re putting a 500% tariff on anything unless Mexico puts their military on the southern and northern border. In return, the US will help, supervise, train growing Mexican special forces units that will bring the cartels to their knees. Big operation. Mexico needs the US to survive and they’ll do anything we tell them to do. Cartels are one of Trump’s major goals, and it will happen. convert we were already paying mexico to stop migrants coming up. that was greatly curttailed under... the first trump administration. convert most of our cars are built in mexico, or at least use mexican assembled parts. we import a huge percentage of our food from mexico. our corn farmers export a huge amount of corn to mexico. we just re-negotiated nafta at huge effort and expense. how are we going to put a 500% tarriff on mexico? how does that play with "the economy" being the largest issue on people's minds? convert, mexican special forces are why the zetas are so powerful lol. a lot of mexican special forces defected... to become the zetas. mexico doesn't "need the us to survive" any more than we "need mexico to survive" in that we have a pretty intricately tied economy and losing the other country as a trade partner would be hugely damaging. mexico has traditionally seeked less, less, less close relations with the us. nafta didn't happen until the 90s not because we didn't want to do it, but because that's how long it took to convince mexico to do it. now I believe mexico is the country with the most free trade agreements worldwide. 3
Sactowndog Posted November 8 Posted November 8 Heard some good news from a Trumper friend. It seems the turnout for Republicans among Hispanics has Republicans thinking if they take care of Dreamers and family members like parents they can sew up the Hispanic vote for years. They are probably correct. Quite frankly if they do the right thing for both the people by not decimating families and the country by not decimating our work force then good for them. We can all pray that line of thinking prevails. 3
Chile_Ute Posted November 8 Posted November 8 On 11/8/2024 at 4:14 PM, Sactowndog said: Heard some good news from a Trumper friend. It seems the turnout for Republicans among Hispanics has Republicans thinking if they take care of Dreamers and family members like parents they can sew up the Hispanic vote for years. They are probably correct. Quite frankly if they do the right thing for both the people by not decimating families and the country by not decimating our work force then good for them. We can all pray that line of thinking prevails. So accidentally doing the moral thing….hmm….what else could go right in this vein?
Sactowndog Posted November 8 Posted November 8 On 11/8/2024 at 3:16 PM, Chile_Ute said: So accidentally doing the moral thing….hmm….what else could go right in this vein? They are doing it in their own self interest but if it also is the right thing happy to applaud them. Much better than the alternative.
Chile_Ute Posted November 8 Posted November 8 On 11/8/2024 at 4:18 PM, Sactowndog said: They are doing it in their own self interest but if it also is the right thing happy to applaud them. Much better than the alternative. Ultimately both sides do what’s in their best interest…on rare occasion it actually has benefit then so be it. 1
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