Liberal Tears Thread...

[Spaztecs]

On 11/13/2024 at 12:59 PM, AztecAlien said:

Hey, while you're white knighting for the low IQ @InnZoneU, did you want to comment on his accusations of mass school shootings and other mass shooting accusations while he was posting and responding for 15 hours as well? He quickly deleted the mass school shooting post because he knew he'd get banned. Or, how about the personal message he sent wanting to fight me? Any comments on that? Or is it just teams and shit and normal echo chamber banter that you approve of? Fact is, he finally realized he's not smart and quit.  

Oh, the btw, did you want to tell everyone about when you went round and round for 15 hours with me as well. Or do you conveniently forget about that, smart guy? 

Are you going to run a hide now, hypocrite? 

 

 

You don't have to respond to every post.

[Spaztecs]

On 11/13/2024 at 11:38 PM, Soupslam said:

Oh boy another dipshit jealous of the wealthy. You’re lucky they see fit to give you a job. Talk about out of touch. 

So, in your mind, the working classes exist for your benefit.

That's quite an insular view of the world.

[Spaztecs]

On 11/14/2024 at 6:49 AM, happycamper said:

...  no. the bracero program died 60 years ago. since then it's been mostly illegal labor, a situation that until ~2015 was more or less part of the republican platform (leave illegals alone, all this cheap labor is great for SBOs). 

dude you're from california. why do you act like you're an alien who landed on earth 4 weeks ago? did you pay zero attention to the world around you until october 2024?

He lives in a vacuum of ideology. His ideas sound great in his vacuum. Then, the real world chimes in and he acts like we're the problem.

[Akkula]

On 11/14/2024 at 8:12 AM, Spaztecs said:

So, in your mind, the working classes exist for your benefit.

That's quite an insular view of the world.

They want a new guilded age where Billionaires like Trump and Musk own everything and pay no tax while the working class struggles....and then they can blame the Mexicans for it. 

[Akkula]

On 11/14/2024 at 7:49 AM, happycamper said:

...  no. the bracero program died 60 years ago. since then it's been mostly illegal labor, a situation that until ~2015 was more or less part of the republican platform (leave illegals alone, all this cheap labor is great for SBOs). 

dude you're from california. why do you act like you're an alien who landed on earth 4 weeks ago? did you pay zero attention to the world around you until october 2024?

Undocumented immigrants serve a very vital purpose to break the backs of labor in the USA.  Companies can hire them and they don't ask for the same wages and benefits and so they are a very handy check on domestic labor if they get out of line.  Then instead of making sure that ALL workers have the same wages and benefits regardless of immigration status to protect themselves, domestic workers shoot themselves in the foot and try to blame other workers instead of those who hire them.  

If immigrants had the same minimum wages, benefits, and working conditions as domestic workers there would be no incentive to hire them and they would likely "self deport" if they could not find jobs.   

[Supersix]

The Democratic front-runner for the 2028 presidential race.

[InnZoneU]

On 11/14/2024 at 6:10 AM, Spaztecs said:

You don't have to respond to every post.

He's gonna snap and shoot up a super market or library or something.

I don't think I've seen a more mentally unstable individual on a message board in the last 25 years.  Dude is certified insane.

[Spaztecs]

On 11/14/2024 at 7:31 AM, Akkula said:

They want a new guilded age where Billionaires like Trump and Musk own everything and pay no tax while the working class struggles....and then they can blame the Mexicans for it. 

They already have that world.

[AztecAlien]

On 11/14/2024 at 8:51 AM, InnZoneU said:

He's gonna snap and shoot up a super market or library or something.

I don't think I've seen a more mentally unstable individual on a message board in the last 25 years.  Dude is certified insane.

Any comment here @retrofade on your low IQ pal, or is this just friendly banter from the team? @halfmanhalfbroncowant to chime in as well. Let's see who's the first one to think this is funny.

Guess I'm not on the right team, thank God. This is their representation. 

 

 

[Soupslam]

On 11/14/2024 at 6:49 AM, happycamper said:

...  no. the bracero program died 60 years ago. since then it's been mostly illegal labor, a situation that undtil ~2015 was more or less part of the republican platform (leave illegals alone, all this cheap labor is great for SBOs). 

dude you're from california. why do you act like you're an alien who landed on earth 4 weeks ago? did you pay zero attention to the world around you until october 2024?

My Cali Democrat in-laws love their illegal cheap gardener and housekeeper Jose and Juanita. 

[Soupslam]

On 11/14/2024 at 7:12 AM, Spaztecs said:

So, in your mind, the working classes exist for your benefit.

That's quite an insular view of the world.

I was one of the working class for forty years, but I never begrudged someone who was smarter and was willing to work harder to reach the top rung. Kudos to them. 

There are always going to be those that are motivated and ambitious and those willing to do as little as possible to get by, with the rest of us in between. Most of us understand that. And then there’s the jealous like you that cry about it and will always be the victim. 

[renoskier]

On 11/14/2024 at 9:50 AM, Soupslam said:

I was one of the working class for forty years, but I never begrudged someone who was smarter and was willing to work harder to reach the top rung. Kudos to them. 

There are always going to be those that are motivated and ambitious and those willing to do as little as possible to get by, with the rest of us in between. Most of us understand that. And then there’s the jealous like you that cry about it and will always be the victim. 

that's fine soup...I just think they should be paying their 20% just like the rest of us

[Soupslam]

On 11/14/2024 at 10:52 AM, renoskier said:

that's fine soup...I just think they should be paying their 20% just like the rest of us

Like I said they’re smarter than the rest of us. They’re always three steps ahead of whatever tax laws the government comes up with.

On a side note the 5% they pay is a huge order of magnitude more than the 20% the rest of us pay. The wealthy keep our government in business. Those with the gold make the rules. It is what it is. 

Many of the wealthy are also huge philanthropists. 

[CPslograd]

On 11/14/2024 at 9:52 AM, renoskier said:

that's fine soup...I just think they should be paying their 20% just like the rest of us

Comeon Renoskier, don't play that game.  It contributes to the financial illiteracy of the nation.

There are different types of income, which you obviously are well aware of.

And what do you mean, pay 20% like the rest of us?  Half the country pays no federal income tax.

[happycamper]

On 11/14/2024 at 12:39 PM, Soupslam said:

My Cali Democrat in-laws love their illegal cheap gardener and housekeeper Jose and Juanita. 

sure. but ~15 years ago the democrats were significantly closer to unions who didn't like the labor cost competition, even if everyone liked the decreased goods prices on the consumer side. 

 

On 11/14/2024 at 1:10 PM, CPslograd said:

Comeon Renoskier, don't play that game.  It contributes to the financial illiteracy of the nation.

There are different types of income, which you obviously are well aware of.

And what do you mean, pay 20% like the rest of us?  Half the country pays no federal income tax.

sure they do. everyone pays medicare and social security no matter what. that's by far our biggest expenditures. 

On 11/14/2024 at 12:50 PM, Soupslam said:

I was one of the working class for forty years, but I never begrudged someone who was smarter and was willing to work harder to reach the top rung. Kudos to them. 

There are always going to be those that are motivated and ambitious and those willing to do as little as possible to get by, with the rest of us in between. Most of us understand that. And then there’s the jealous like you that cry about it and will always be the victim. 

weren't you an environmental engineer? 

[AztecAlien]

On 11/14/2024 at 10:52 AM, renoskier said:

that's fine soup...I just think they should be paying their 20% just like the rest of us

You're paying too much. 

[Soupslam]

On 11/14/2024 at 11:23 AM, happycamper said:

sure. but ~15 years ago the democrats were significantly closer to unions who didn't like the labor cost competition, even if everyone liked the decreased goods prices on the consumer side. 

 

sure they do. everyone pays medicare and social security no matter what. that's by far our biggest expenditures. 

weren't you an environmental engineer? 

True, not poor by any means but far from wealthy. I was one of those in between that could have made a lot more money if I started my own business. Which would have involved a lot more hours and a lot more risk. 

Which is the point I was trying to make. Many wealthy people got there by being smarter and working  harder and taking more risks. Why begrudge those that do?

Granted there are those born with a silver spoon that inherited wealth but I sure wasn’t one of those. 

[happycamper]

On 11/14/2024 at 2:04 PM, Soupslam said:

True, not poor by any means but far from wealthy. I was one of those in between that could have made a lot more money if I started my own business. Which would have involved a lot more hours and a lot more risk. 

Which is the point I was trying to make. Many wealthy people got there by being smarter and working  harder and taking more risks. Why begrudge those that do?

Granted there are those born with a silver spoon that inherited wealth but I sure wasn’t one of those. 

OK. I'm in about the same position but I'd make more if I wanted to go to an energy firm or do the Y-12 thing but also work 50+ a week. I wouldn't really call that "working class" but definitely in the middle. 

[renoskier]

On 11/14/2024 at 10:10 AM, CPslograd said:

Comeon Renoskier, don't play that game.  It contributes to the financial illiteracy of the nation.

There are different types of income, which you obviously are well aware of.

And what do you mean, pay 20% like the rest of us?  Half the country pays no federal income tax.

yes, we do treat types of income differently...IMO, this is a mistake

all income should be treated the same

[renoskier]

On 11/14/2024 at 10:23 AM, happycamper said:

sure. but ~15 years ago the democrats were significantly closer to unions who didn't like the labor cost competition, even if everyone liked the decreased goods prices on the consumer side. 

 

sure they do. everyone pays medicare and social security no matter what. that's by far our biggest expenditures. 

weren't you an environmental engineer? 

I think he was a "sanitation" engineer