Aslowhiteguy Posted Thursday at 03:54 AM Share Posted Thursday at 03:54 AM On 10/30/2024 at 8:24 PM, TSpoke said: So you are saying they weren't going to endorse her before the billionaire owner stopped it? No, I am not. But fear of losing their license isn't the reason why. Multiple publications have endorsed Harris, including the New York Times. Clearly, they weren't afraid. The trend for print publications not endorsing is growing. Print media is dying and they are starting to move to the center in hopes of gaining readership and subscriptions. They don't want to alienate anymore readers. The LA Times had staff resignations and canceled subscriptions over not endorsing. They didn't reverse the decision. They, and other outlets, are going to have to change to survive. Hundreds of smaller newspapers and magazines have shut down. Social media and podcasts have hurt the printed news market. The news papers have to broaden their base of support if they want to grow. They can't get any farther left than they already are. They have to move towards the center, they can't pick sides, they have to at least create the illusion that they are an objective news source. Besides that, freedom of the press is sacred. A president doesn't have the power to shut down a newspaper. It would be tough, if not impossible, for a president to shutdown a TV network, even though they are federally regulated. You may recall the backlash the Obama administration received after an attempt to prevent our overseas troops from seeing Fox News at their oversea bases. That got shutdown quickly. You don't F with freedom of speech or freedom of the press. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BSUTOP25 Posted Thursday at 04:09 AM Share Posted Thursday at 04:09 AM It’s been almost 4 years since @Aslowhiteguymade a public appearance. 1 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aslowhiteguy Posted Thursday at 04:14 AM Share Posted Thursday at 04:14 AM On 10/30/2024 at 9:09 PM, BSUTOP25 said: It’s been almost 4 years since @Aslowhiteguymade a public appearance. That's not me! I was the guy boosting him over the fence. You lefties are such liars. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BSUTOP25 Posted Thursday at 04:17 AM Share Posted Thursday at 04:17 AM On 10/30/2024 at 10:14 PM, Aslowhiteguy said: That's not me! I was the guy boosting him over the fence. You lefties are such liars. Yea, I’m such a lefty. Lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmartigan Posted Thursday at 12:16 PM Share Posted Thursday at 12:16 PM On 10/30/2024 at 10:17 PM, BSUTOP25 said: Yea, I’m such a lefty. Lol Let’s see how many lefty checks you mark off -Drives Subaru with 267 bumper stickers: check -Moved to a non California state from a more liberal state: check -Hates Trump: check -Ostracizes everyone that doesn’t have your dogmatic definition of some ideology (Idaho fry sauce superiority): check You are so lefty dude. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BSUTOP25 Posted Thursday at 12:25 PM Share Posted Thursday at 12:25 PM On 10/31/2024 at 6:16 AM, Madmartigan said: Let’s see how many lefty checks you mark off -Drives Subaru with 267 bumper stickers: check -Moved to a non California state from a more liberal state: check -Hates Trump: check -Ostracizes everyone that doesn’t have your dogmatic definition of some ideology (Idaho fry sauce superiority): check You are so lefty dude. My Subaru came free and attached to a COEXIST bumper sticker I bought. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaztecs Posted Thursday at 01:54 PM Share Posted Thursday at 01:54 PM On 10/30/2024 at 9:00 PM, Aslowhiteguy said: Are you a paint sniffer? You definitely are. Read and listen to non Trump humping media. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaztecs Posted Thursday at 01:57 PM Share Posted Thursday at 01:57 PM On 10/30/2024 at 9:54 PM, Aslowhiteguy said: No, I am not. But fear of losing their license isn't the reason why. Multiple publications have endorsed Harris, including the New York Times. Clearly, they weren't afraid. The trend for print publications not endorsing is growing. Print media is dying and they are starting to move to the center in hopes of gaining readership and subscriptions. They don't want to alienate anymore readers. The LA Times had staff resignations and canceled subscriptions over not endorsing. They didn't reverse the decision. They, and other outlets, are going to have to change to survive. Hundreds of smaller newspapers and magazines have shut down. Social media and podcasts have hurt the printed news market. The news papers have to broaden their base of support if they want to grow. They can't get any farther left than they already are. They have to move towards the center, they can't pick sides, they have to at least create the illusion that they are an objective news source. Besides that, freedom of the press is sacred. A president doesn't have the power to shut down a newspaper. It would be tough, if not impossible, for a president to shutdown a TV network, even though they are federally regulated. You may recall the backlash the Obama administration received after an attempt to prevent our overseas troops from seeing Fox News at their oversea bases. That got shutdown quickly. You don't F with freedom of speech or freedom of the press. You obviously chose not to read the reports about the Times and WaPo owners reversing their Editorial Boards decision to endorse Kamela. Keep sniffing the Orange glue. It works better than the regular stuff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azgreg Posted Thursday at 02:13 PM Share Posted Thursday at 02:13 PM https://abalegalfactcheck.com/articles/broadcast-news.html On Oct. 11, President Donald Trump suggested that NBC invited a challenge to its broadcast license because of its reporting on his administration. “With all of the Fake News coming out of NBC and the Networks, at what point is it appropriate to challenge their License? Bad for country!” Trump tweeted. The idea was roundly criticized and dismissed by legal experts as neither plausible nor legal. But on what grounds can a broadcast license be successfully challenged? The Federal Communications Commission (FCC) regulates U.S. interstate and international communications by radio, television, wire, satellite and cable and grants licenses to local broadcast and radio stations and not their national networks. The agency has revoked few licenses for violations over its 83 years, and when it does it chiefly acts on such grounds as broadcasting obscene or indecent speech or “character qualifications” of owners. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InnZoneU Posted Thursday at 03:18 PM Share Posted Thursday at 03:18 PM On 10/31/2024 at 6:57 AM, Spaztecs said: You obviously chose not to read the reports about the Times and WaPo owners reversing their Editorial Boards decision to endorse Kamela. Keep sniffing the Orange glue. It works better than the regular stuff What is the point of having an Editorial board if they have to say or not say whatever the owner wants? That's antithetic to free speech and freedom of the press. I'd quit too. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renoskier Posted Thursday at 04:09 PM Share Posted Thursday at 04:09 PM On 10/30/2024 at 8:54 PM, Aslowhiteguy said: No, I am not. But fear of losing their license isn't the reason why. Multiple publications have endorsed Harris, including the New York Times. Clearly, they weren't afraid. The trend for print publications not endorsing is growing. Print media is dying and they are starting to move to the center in hopes of gaining readership and subscriptions. They don't want to alienate anymore readers. The LA Times had staff resignations and canceled subscriptions over not endorsing. They didn't reverse the decision. They, and other outlets, are going to have to change to survive. Hundreds of smaller newspapers and magazines have shut down. Social media and podcasts have hurt the printed news market. The news papers have to broaden their base of support if they want to grow. They can't get any farther left than they already are. They have to move towards the center, they can't pick sides, they have to at least create the illusion that they are an objective news source. Besides that, freedom of the press is sacred. A president doesn't have the power to shut down a newspaper. It would be tough, if not impossible, for a president to shutdown a TV network, even though they are federally regulated. You may recall the backlash the Obama administration received after an attempt to prevent our overseas troops from seeing Fox News at their oversea bases. That got shutdown quickly. You don't F with freedom of speech or freedom of the press. maybe the first time we've ever agreed news should be presented as free from bias as possible why did papers ever "endorse" anyone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renoskier Posted Thursday at 04:10 PM Share Posted Thursday at 04:10 PM On 10/31/2024 at 8:18 AM, InnZoneU said: What is the point of having an Editorial board if they have to say or not say whatever the owner wants? That's antithetic to free speech and freedom of the press. I'd quit too. who decides on "slant" an editorial board should have? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InnZoneU Posted Thursday at 04:18 PM Share Posted Thursday at 04:18 PM On 10/31/2024 at 9:10 AM, renoskier said: who decides on "slant" an editorial board should have? Well it should be nobody except the editorial board. That's their job description. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renoskier Posted Thursday at 05:38 PM Share Posted Thursday at 05:38 PM On 10/31/2024 at 9:18 AM, InnZoneU said: Well it should be nobody except the editorial board. That's their job description. and who put the board in place? I'm guessing the owner of the paper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InnZoneU Posted Thursday at 05:45 PM Share Posted Thursday at 05:45 PM On 10/31/2024 at 10:38 AM, renoskier said: and who put the board in place? I'm guessing the owner of the paper You seem to be arguing for owners of media being able to suppress the free speech of the press? You probably need to re-think that position. Unless you want Oligarch/State Owned Media. This is why we have the FCC that you-know-how has already said he wants to end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renoskier Posted Thursday at 05:50 PM Share Posted Thursday at 05:50 PM On 10/31/2024 at 10:45 AM, InnZoneU said: You seem to be arguing for owners of media being able to suppress the free speech of the press? You probably need to re-think that position. Unless you want Oligarch/State Owned Media. "free speech of the press" means our government can't interfere you're really naive if you believe that the owner of a media outlet doesn't have the right to determine the nature/bias/slant of the news it reports that's literally their right of free speech you think William Randolph Hearst didn't determine what or how his media empire reported the news? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InnZoneU Posted Thursday at 06:36 PM Share Posted Thursday at 06:36 PM On 10/31/2024 at 10:50 AM, renoskier said: "free speech of the press" means our government can't interfere you're really naive if you believe that the owner of a media outlet doesn't have the right to determine the nature/bias/slant of the news it reports that's literally their right of free speech you think William Randolph Hearst didn't determine what or how his media empire reported the news? Then it's no longer news. It's opinion. This is why Fox had to claim they were not a 'news' network and just an 'opinion network'. There is also a fine line involved now when owners of media are side-by-side with politicians, donating millions and billions to politicians and political parties. Well that, and also being threatened with jail if they don't report what (insert person here) doesn't want them to report. But hey. I guess I'm never going to break you out of being happy about Oligarch/State owned media. Rock on bro. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSF Posted Thursday at 06:44 PM Share Posted Thursday at 06:44 PM On 10/31/2024 at 12:50 PM, renoskier said: "free speech of the press" means our government can't interfere you're really naive if you believe that the owner of a media outlet doesn't have the right to determine the nature/bias/slant of the news it reports that's literally their right of free speech Editorial boards have always been subject to the leanings of ownership. It's why individual papers have tended to have a bias when it comes to endorsements. This is especially noticeable in towns with multiple dailies. That was the case in both places I've lived - the Chicago Tribune and FW Star Telegram usually went right, while the Chicago Sun-Times and Dallas Morning News trended left. On 10/31/2024 at 12:50 PM, renoskier said: you think William Randolph Hearst didn't determine what or how his media empire reported the news? He was famous for it. The inventor of yellow journalism. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tailingpermit Posted Thursday at 07:22 PM Share Posted Thursday at 07:22 PM On 10/30/2024 at 11:00 PM, Aslowhiteguy said: Are you a paint sniffer? Worse, Snapdragon Stadium turf specialist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halfmanhalfbronco Posted Thursday at 07:28 PM Share Posted Thursday at 07:28 PM On 10/29/2024 at 8:49 PM, RSF said: I wasn’t going to vote for Biden anyways. I wasn't going to vote for that roast comedian anyways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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