415hawaiiboy 2.0 Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 “First of all” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WYO1016 Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 On 10/1/2024 at 8:51 PM, Orange said: This was the line of the night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orange Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 On 10/1/2024 at 9:17 PM, masterfrog said: I don’t think it matters, but Vance was the clear winner of this debate. Walz didn’t seem like he could step in and be President (not unusual) and he mixed up Israel and Iran a couple of times. Vance also had the strongest closing statement by a mile. lol, you mean when he refused to say Trump lost the election or when he whined about fact-checking after he said the Haitians are illegal? 🤣🤣 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AztecAlien Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 On 10/2/2024 at 8:49 AM, WYO1016 said: I watched the entire debate and the moderators actually fact checked a true statement and cut off JD Vances mic when he tried to refute their incorrect rebuttal. Walz also completely lied about the number of people crossing the Southern Border being down under Kamala Harris' watch. Nothing from the CBS moderators. Why? The rules of that debate were the moderators were to stay away from fact checking either candidate and that would be left for the networks and the public after the debate. That didn't happen, did it? CBS and ABC are a disgrace. The NY Times also went with the lies from the biased CBS moderators. Vance clearly won that debate. Nice try from whoever Dana Abercrombie is. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masterfrog Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 On 10/2/2024 at 9:49 AM, Orange said: lol, you mean when he refused to say Trump lost the election or when he whined about fact-checking after he said the Haitians are illegal? 🤣🤣 I don’t know how anybody could watch that and say Walz won the debate. But if you did and that is what you think, more power to you. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSF Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 On 10/2/2024 at 10:59 AM, AztecAlien said: I watched the entire debate and the moderators actually fact checked a true statement and cut off JD Vances mic when he tried to refute their incorrect rebuttal. Walz also completely lied about the number of people crossing the Southern Border being down under Kamala Harris' watch. Nothing from the CBS moderators. Why? The rules of that debate were the moderators were to stay away from fact checking either candidate and that would be left for the networks and the public after the debate. That didn't happen, did it? CBS and ABC are a disgrace. The NY Times also went with the lies from the biased CBS moderators. Vance clearly won that debate. Nice try from whoever Dana Abercrombie is. CBP seems to think that border crossing, which were much higher in previous years, are way down this year...under Biden's watch. Since he's the President. https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/southwest-land-border-encounters But what do they know. And what true statement did they fact check? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InnZoneU Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 On 10/2/2024 at 8:59 AM, AztecAlien said: I watched the entire debate and the moderators actually fact checked a true statement and cut off JD Vances mic when he tried to refute their incorrect rebuttal. Walz also completely lied about the number of people crossing the Southern Border being down under Kamala Harris' watch. Nothing from the CBS moderators. Why? The rules of that debate were the moderators were to stay away from fact checking either candidate and that would be left for the networks and the public after the debate. That didn't happen, did it? CBS and ABC are a disgrace. The NY Times also went with the lies from the biased CBS moderators. Vance clearly won that debate. Nice try from whoever Dana Abercrombie is. On 10/2/2024 at 9:08 AM, masterfrog said: I don’t know how anybody could watch that and say Walz won the debate. But if you did and that is what you think, more power to you. LMFAO. The both of you tag teaming this thread is pretty desperate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supersix Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 Vance Knucklehead 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlpineSummer Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 I saw some post-debate analysis on a few channels. Mostly biased based on the site or who had the mic. A lot of it was shit. It's too bad Walz didn't know his macro econ stuff. First, they all do the post hoc fallacy stuff. Politically, that means if President X is in office in years A-D all the good (or bad) things are due to him (her). 95% bullshit. But, toss out the Covid year, and economic growth during the first three Trump years was about 25% less than the postwar GDP avg. Inflation was low for decades. Dude took office on 3rd base and never scored a run if you believe in the fallacy. But, none of that matters. This race is about Trump and Harris to varying degrees. It's going to be about turnout and momentum. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InnZoneU Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 On 10/2/2024 at 9:20 AM, Supersix said: Vance Knucklehead So you like a man who wears Maybeline and rocks fake blue contacts along with the weirdest Bear Beard ever. Got it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AztecAlien Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 On 10/2/2024 at 10:16 AM, InnZoneU said: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azgreg Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 On 10/1/2024 at 10:51 PM, Supersix said: JD Destroyed knucklehead Waltz, This would be a true statement if you believe that lying and gaslighting the entire debate wins it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supersix Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 On 10/2/2024 at 9:23 AM, InnZoneU said: So you like a man who wears Maybeline and rocks fake blue contacts along with the weirdest Bear Beard ever. Got it. I believe that he likely garnered additional support from female voters following the debate. His composed demeanor, intellect, and striking blue eyes likely contributed to this. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supersix Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 Honest question: If Vance and Walz were running for president, who would you vote for? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InnZoneU Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 On 10/2/2024 at 9:38 AM, Supersix said: Honest question: If Vance and Walz were running for president, who would you vote for? Walz. Definitely not the weird Bear who wear women's makeup and lies about Haitians eating your pets. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AztecAlien Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 On 10/2/2024 at 10:15 AM, RSF said: CBP seems to think that border crossing, which were much higher in previous years, are way down this year...under Biden's watch. Since he's the President. https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/southwest-land-border-encounters But what do they know. And what true statement did they fact check? NBC fact checking after the debate and the way the rules were supposed to be. “Look, [border] crossings are down compared to when Donald Trump left office.” Walz Verdict This needs context. Analysis "According to the latest Customs and Border Protection data available, there were an estimated 2,756,646 migrant encounters between and at U.S. ports of entry in fiscal year 2024. While the number of migrant encounters has dipped during the Biden administration in recent months, in part because of a June executive action putting limits on migrants seeking asylum between ports of entry, the total number of national encounters during the Biden administration so far is about 10 million, compared with an estimated 3 million during the Trump administration." Do you work for CBS? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masterfrog Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 On 10/2/2024 at 11:40 AM, InnZoneU said: Walz. Definitely not the weird Bear who wear women's makeup and lies about Haitians eating your pets. I am surprised to hear people so forgiving about lies from Walz when they condemn Trump and Vance for the same thing. It either should be an issue for everyone or an issue for no one. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlpineSummer Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 On 10/2/2024 at 10:38 AM, Supersix said: Honest question: If Vance and Walz were running for president, who would you vote for? An older, upper Midwest normal guy. Old school progressive and favors mostly liberal domestic policies. Institutionalist including foreign policy. I kind of liked Vance back in '16 when he broke out nationally. His story was interesting. He has some charm and abilities to communicate. But, the guy has proved to be about the most duplicitous newbie pol I've ever seen at that potential level of power. The dude either has no soul or he jerks off to The Prince (Machievelli). Matters not to me, but anyone citing Curtis Yarvin as an influence and then proving it by his straightforward post-truth 180° turns and relentless lying is not someone to vote for. Walz by default. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSF Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 On 10/2/2024 at 11:41 AM, AztecAlien said: NBC fact checking after the debate and the way the rules were supposed to be. “Look, [border] crossings are down compared to when Donald Trump left office.” Walz Verdict This needs context. Analysis "According to the latest Customs and Border Protection data available, there were an estimated 2,756,646 migrant encounters between and at U.S. ports of entry in fiscal year 2024. While the number of migrant encounters has dipped during the Biden administration in recent months, in part because of a June executive action putting limits on migrants seeking asylum between ports of entry, the total number of national encounters during the Biden administration so far is about 10 million, compared with an estimated 3 million during the Trump administration." Do you work for CBS? You answer my question 1st. And the number you 'quote' is wrong on border crossings by about 700k. I provided you the actual link. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retrofade Posted October 2 Author Share Posted October 2 On 10/2/2024 at 9:38 AM, Supersix said: Honest question: If Vance and Walz were running for president, who would you vote for? I wouldn't vote for JD "Couchfucker" Vance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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