InnZoneU Posted September 21, 2024 Posted September 21, 2024 On 9/20/2024 at 4:48 PM, Orange said: Again, there’s a ton of young men jumping on this train. Because young men are the dumbest adults on planet earth. The same could likely be said about the six figures of Swifties who recently signed up to vote first time.
Orange Posted September 21, 2024 Posted September 21, 2024 On 9/20/2024 at 5:00 PM, InnZoneU said: The same could likely be said about the six figures of Swifties who recently signed up to vote first time. No, it really couldn’t, because they’re not the ones getting their brains pickled by Joe Rogan and Andrew Tate. 1 1
DestinFlPackfan Posted September 21, 2024 Posted September 21, 2024 On 9/20/2024 at 12:21 PM, InnZoneU said: Likely because the polls now are unscientific AF. I'd love to hear from someone who didn't vote for Trump in 16 & 20 but is now all of a sudden on board with his act. I didn't vote for him. And I'm certainly not ' now all of a sudden on board with his act'. He is a not what I would describe as anywhere near the perfect candidate. His opponent is as bad as he is. The thing right now that has me leaning towards Trump is Harris refusal to address any damn issue. She has been part and parcel of the policies the past 3 1/2 years....that I am not a fan of. Vice President Harris (has not to this point) given me any reason to trust or belive in the Democrats mission. I haven't seen/read/heard any plans to offset this country's crisis or the world events happening. I don't have any faith in the VP's ability to make our country stronger. Joy and hope and Oprah don't make for a strong economy or nation. Signed an Independent who's paying close attention to a candidate who is dodging the questions and another who can't act like an adult.
InnZoneU Posted September 21, 2024 Posted September 21, 2024 On 9/20/2024 at 6:17 PM, DestinFlPackfan said: I didn't vote for him. And I'm certainly not ' now all of a sudden on board with his act'. He is a not what I would describe as anywhere near the perfect candidate. His opponent is as bad as he is. The thing right now that has me leaning towards Trump is Harris refusal to address any damn issue. She has been part and parcel of the policies the past 3 1/2 years....that I am not a fan of. Vice President Harris (has not to this point) given me any reason to trust or belive in the Democrats mission. I haven't seen/read/heard any plans to offset this country's crisis or the world events happening. I don't have any faith in the VP's ability to make our country stronger. Joy and hope and Oprah don't make for a strong economy or nation. Signed an Independent who's paying close attention to a candidate who is dodging the questions and another who can't act like an adult. I will never understand this reasoning as anything other than being insane. But I do appreciate your response. 2
DestinFlPackfan Posted September 21, 2024 Posted September 21, 2024 On 9/20/2024 at 8:23 PM, InnZoneU said: I will never understand this reasoning as anything other than being insane. But I do appreciate your response. I appreciate your appreciation. Respectfully, you wouldnt/couldn't understand my reasoning because I'm afraid you are so tilted to one side. What's insane is that two sides can't come together with compromises. Our government used to do this alot. It hurt both sides because they had to give up something...but it was for the betterment of our country. Swallow some individual pride and try to help. I appreciate your view and hope you will consider what's best for our country. Your vote matters. 1
Orange Posted September 21, 2024 Posted September 21, 2024 On 9/20/2024 at 6:39 PM, DestinFlPackfan said: I appreciate your appreciation. Respectfully, you wouldnt/couldn't understand my reasoning because I'm afraid you are so tilted to one side. What's insane is that two sides can't come together with compromises. Our government used to do this alot. It hurt both sides because they had to give up something...but it was for the betterment of our country. Swallow some individual pride and try to help. I appreciate your view and hope you will consider what's best for our country. Your vote matters. No, the two sides never came together; what happened is the Democratic Party tilted to the republicans, so the republicans rejoice. Bill Clinton slashed welfare and embraced a Republican crime bill. Obama gave billionaires a bail out. Show me something comparable from Republicans. Republicans have never (since Grant) leaned progressive. The idea that you would compare a guy who screams falsehoods about Haitian immigrants eating pets with a woman who has listed several detailed policy proposals that help the middle class is nothing short of insane. You are insane. You are a Kool-Aid drinking moron. 1
DestinFlPackfan Posted September 21, 2024 Posted September 21, 2024 On 9/20/2024 at 8:43 PM, Orange said: No, the two sides never came together; what happened is the Democratic Party tilted to the republicans, so the republicans rejoice. Republicans have never (since Grant) leaned progressive. Progressive? Not sure where that comes in...but you do you. Your vote matters. 1
Just_Chris Posted September 21, 2024 Posted September 21, 2024 On 9/20/2024 at 6:15 PM, Orange said: No, it really couldn’t, because they’re not the ones getting their brains pickled by Joe Rogan and Andrew Tate. I see it in Japan, generally white incel losers who come to Japan thinking Japanese women will throw themselves at them because they are white Americans and nothing could be further from reality. They then feel they're the victims of racism and begin to resent and disparage Japanese women and the country in general. It attracts a very toxic fragile type of loser. You can tell the type as soon as they step off the plane. It's even worse when you have people like Tate telling them women are there to serve them and they're the victim 2 1
InnZoneU Posted September 21, 2024 Posted September 21, 2024 On 9/20/2024 at 6:39 PM, DestinFlPackfan said: I appreciate your appreciation. Respectfully, you wouldnt/couldn't understand my reasoning because I'm afraid you are so tilted to one side. What's insane is that two sides can't come together with compromises. Our government used to do this alot. It hurt both sides because they had to give up something...but it was for the betterment of our country. Swallow some individual pride and try to help. I appreciate your view and hope you will consider what's best for our country. Your vote matters. This is where you're assuming wrongly and not applying the same rationale to others that you apply to yourself. I'll happily vote R if they aren't a goddamn shtshow. POTUS record is 5 D and 2 R. Well about to be 6-2 I guess. Trump is a psychopath. Equating him to an at least somewhat normal functioning human being who isn't barfing out crap on social media like an absolute lunatic is not....being objective. Sorry man. Still respect your response even if I don't understand. 2
FresnoFacts Posted September 21, 2024 Posted September 21, 2024 On 9/20/2024 at 6:39 PM, DestinFlPackfan said: I appreciate your appreciation. Respectfully, you wouldnt/couldn't understand my reasoning because I'm afraid you are so tilted to one side. What's insane is that two sides can't come together with compromises. Our government used to do this alot. It hurt both sides because they had to give up something...but it was for the betterment of our country. Swallow some individual pride and try to help. I appreciate your view and hope you will consider what's best for our country. Your vote matters. I left the GOP years ago over that. Newt Gingrich in my mind led that change. He more than any other individual led us to the chimpanzee, dog-eat-dog, personal attack politics we have today. Of course, as Newt said, "You can't trust anybody with power." 3
Orange Posted September 21, 2024 Posted September 21, 2024 On 9/20/2024 at 6:47 PM, DestinFlPackfan said: Progressive? Not sure where that comes in...but you do you. Your vote matters. Not for president in Oregon, it doesn’t. We need to abolish the EC right now. As for your confusion, it might help if you read and comprehend. If you can’t, ask an adult non-trump supporter for help.
Spaztecs Posted September 21, 2024 Posted September 21, 2024 On 9/20/2024 at 11:21 AM, InnZoneU said: Likely because the polls now are unscientific AF. I'd love to hear from someone who didn't vote for Trump in 16 & 20 but is now all of a sudden on board with his act. A lot of the so called undecideds are weighing whose Presidency they were better off under. Oddly, many see Trump's Presidency as pre COVID. Bidens as COVID and post COVID. That's is why many are breaking to Trump.
Spaztecs Posted September 21, 2024 Posted September 21, 2024 On 9/20/2024 at 7:43 PM, Orange said: No, the two sides never came together; what happened is the Democratic Party tilted to the republicans, so the republicans rejoice. Bill Clinton slashed welfare and embraced a Republican crime bill. Obama gave billionaires a bail out. Show me something comparable from Republicans. Republicans have never (since Grant) leaned progressive. The idea that you would compare a guy who screams falsehoods about Haitian immigrants eating pets with a woman who has listed several detailed policy proposals that help the middle class is nothing short of insane. You are insane. You are a Kool-Aid drinking moron. Dude, take a chill pill. The first paragraph was great. The second started well, Sadly, with most of your posts, what follows is utter garbage.
InnZoneU Posted September 21, 2024 Posted September 21, 2024 On 9/21/2024 at 11:13 AM, Spaztecs said: A lot of the so called undecideds are weighing whose Presidency they were better off under. Oddly, many see Trump's Presidency as pre COVID. Bidens as COVID and post COVID. That's is why many are breaking to Trump. Yeah. "Undecided voters". Kind of like Convert is a centrist. And hey, that's ok. Just admit it.
CV147 Posted September 21, 2024 Posted September 21, 2024 Shut down the government. I don't care. I wish the federal government did like 15% of what they currently do anyway. 1 2
Orange Posted September 22, 2024 Posted September 22, 2024 On 9/21/2024 at 11:44 AM, Spaztecs said: Dude, take a chill pill. The first paragraph was great. The second started well, Sadly, with most of your posts, what follows is utter garbage. Did I ask for your critique, shitheel? If you don’t have a reply, go fuck yourself. 1 1 1
Orange Posted September 22, 2024 Posted September 22, 2024 On 9/21/2024 at 1:15 PM, CV147 said: Shut down the government. I don't care. I wish the federal government did like 15% of what they currently do anyway. No, you really don’t.
RSF Posted September 22, 2024 Posted September 22, 2024 On 9/22/2024 at 5:30 PM, Orange said: No, you really don’t.
InnZoneU Posted September 22, 2024 Posted September 22, 2024 On 9/21/2024 at 11:13 AM, Spaztecs said: A lot of the so called undecideds are weighing whose Presidency they were better off under. Oddly, many see Trump's Presidency as pre COVID. Bidens as COVID and post COVID. That's is why many are breaking to Trump. Anyone who claims they didn't vote for Trump in 16 or 20 but now on board with him in 24 because...??? Same people who think Obama is Kenyan and Big Mike is a real thing. Not any type of 'independent' or 'undecided'. They do have a lot of BS excuses though. I agree Kamala's laugh is very scary. 1
Orange Posted September 23, 2024 Posted September 23, 2024 On 9/22/2024 at 4:54 PM, InnZoneU said: Anyone who claims they didn't vote for Trump in 16 or 20 but now on board with him in 24 because...??? Same people who think Obama is Kenyan and Big Mike is a real thing. Not any type of 'independent' or 'undecided'. They do have a lot of BS excuses though. I agree Kamala's laugh is very scary. Elon! "He'S a GeNiuS" - @halfmanhalfbronco
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