Today's mass shooting is in...........

[UNLV2001]

On 9/4/2024 at 6:01 PM, sean327 said:

Why are you so hell bent on punishing people who've done absolutely nothing wrong? There is no such thing as absolute safety, you know that. But in your quest for the unobtainable, you have no problem trampling on innocent people's rights.

Solid NRA talking points you've got going on most every gun issue ---- Is it something you all get informed on what wording to use when any gun debate comes up ??

"law abiding gun owners" -- Is all over the socials when these events happen & the NRA push back starts 

[Akkula]

On 9/4/2024 at 7:08 PM, UNLV2001 said:

Solid NRA talking points you've got going on most every gun issue ---- Is it something you all get informed on what wording to use when any gun debate comes up ??

"law abiding gun owners" -- Is all over the socials when these events happen & the NRA push back starts 

How in the HELL did a 14 year old get access to an AR 15 to commit a massacre?  I am guessing from a "law abiding gun owner."

[Nevada Convert]

On 9/4/2024 at 5:04 PM, smltwnrckr said:

The problem lies in you not having a dictionary? 

Your problem lies in thinking me having a dictionary is going to solve this. Your problem lies in not wanting to face reality. 

[aztech]

On 9/4/2024 at 5:28 PM, renoskier said:

yes, but handguns are not the weapon of choice for most mass shootings

My guess is handgun deaths are generally committed by people who knew each other, whether it's accidental or intentional. 

 

[sean327]

On 9/4/2024 at 6:07 PM, Akkula said:

Hey brother, it isn't you it's the guns.  I wouldn't want you storing weapons grade plutonium at you house either even if you aren't a felon.  Some items are just too dangerous to give everyone with a pulse access on demand.

You just hate freedom. You want everyone to bow down to the power of the state. Got it 

[sean327]

On 9/4/2024 at 6:08 PM, UNLV2001 said:

Solid NRA talking points you've got going on most every gun issue ---- Is it something you all get informed on what wording to use when any gun debate comes up ??

"law abiding gun owners" -- Is all over the socials when these events happen & the NRA push back starts 

I haven't been a member of the NRA since 1994. That clown show has done more to hurt 2nd Amendment rights than it's ever done to protect them.

[Nevada Convert]

On 9/4/2024 at 6:08 PM, UNLV2001 said:

Solid NRA talking points you've got going on most every gun issue ---- Is it something you all get informed on what wording to use when any gun debate comes up ??

"law abiding gun owners" -- Is all over the socials when these events happen & the NRA push back starts 

I’m speaking just for myself: “Law Abiding Gun Owners” is an extremely important distinction, though. Law abiding gun owners should never have a problem with passing standard to extreme vetting, then. 

There should never ever be across the board gun bans. The last ‘across the board’ assault weapons ban was unconstitutional and un-American. They should’ve remained legal for those that can pass background checks on criminal history and mental health. 

Even extreme vetting as required to purchase full auto machine guns in many states (9-12 month FBI background check) has a perfect record since the mid-1930’s. There’s 640,000 machine guns legally owned in the US, and not one has been used by its owner in a crime since 1934. Extreme vetting has a perfect record. It certainly helps that they’re not cheap and are therefore locked away in gun safes. 

So no gun should ever be completely banned.

[sean327]

On 9/4/2024 at 6:27 PM, Akkula said:

How in the HELL did a 14 year old get access to an AR 15 to commit a massacre?  I am guessing from a "law abiding gun owner."

Law Enforcement hasn't revealed what type of firearm was used yet. Nice try.

[RSF]

On 9/4/2024 at 8:48 PM, sean327 said:

Law Enforcement hasn't revealed what type of firearm was used yet. Nice try.

Actually, they have.  And Akkula is correct.

 

Authorities still are investigating how the suspect brought into the school the “AR-platform style weapon” that was used in the shooting, Georgia Bureau of Investigation Director Chris Hosey said in a news conference Wednesday night.

[RSF]

I think it's pretty simple.

 

 

To own a gun a person needs to enlist in the National Guard.  'Well-regulated militia', right?

[smltwnrckr]

On 9/4/2024 at 6:29 PM, Nevada Convert said:

Your problem lies in thinking me having a dictionary is going to solve this. Your problem lies in not wanting to face reality. 

What, that you don't know what the word "reactionary" means?

Honestly, I do think that actually does a hell of a lot toward identifying what the actual problem is in reality.

[smltwnrckr]

Probably their most cutting statement on the issue. They've had this same article for years and years. They just change the places, names and numbers every time one of these happens. And all the rest is spot on. 

https://theonion.com/no-way-to-prevent-this-says-only-nation-where-this-regularly-happens/

 

[retrofade]

On 9/4/2024 at 7:56 PM, smltwnrckr said:

Probably their most cutting statement on the issue. They've had this same article for years and years. They just change the places, names and numbers every time one of these happens. And all the rest is spot on. 

https://theonion.com/no-way-to-prevent-this-says-only-nation-where-this-regularly-happens/

 

It's been over a decade now.

May 27, 2014 was the first instance of it. 

[Akkula]

On 9/4/2024 at 7:33 PM, aztech said:

My guess is handgun deaths are generally committed by people who knew each other, whether it's accidental or intentional. 

 

The only handguns that should be allowed are revolvers.  Handguns generally should also have a much higher threshold of ownership than deer rifles and shotguns.

[retrofade]

On 9/4/2024 at 6:48 PM, sean327 said:

Law Enforcement hasn't revealed what type of firearm was used yet. Nice try.

[Nevada Convert]

On 9/4/2024 at 9:12 PM, RSF said:

Actually, they have.  And Akkula is correct.

 

Authorities still are investigating how the suspect brought into the school the “AR-platform style weapon” that was used in the shooting, Georgia Bureau of Investigation Director Chris Hosey said in a news conference Wednesday night.

RSF knows everything. 

[Nevada Convert]

On 9/4/2024 at 9:55 PM, smltwnrckr said:

What, that you don't know what the word "reactionary" means?

Honestly, I do think that actually does a hell of a lot toward identifying what the actual problem is in reality.

So, there aren't just as many 'reactionaries', as you define them, on the commie left that you have a boner for? 

The irony is that all the violent video games, glorified gang culture, violent TV & Film, etc. that so many people on the left claim have no influence of the existance of gun violence has actually de-sensitized enough people in the general electorate to not care about making any change. It's "Oh that sucks, glad it wasn't me, that's just the way it is" and move on. Nothing is going to change because our culture now looks at mass shootings like bad car accidents. Sucks, but shit happens. 

[Akkula]

On 9/5/2024 at 12:38 AM, Nevada Convert said:

So, there aren't just as many 'reactionaries', as you define them, on the commie left that you have a boner for? 

The irony is that all the violent video games, glorified gang culture, violent TV & Film, etc. that so many people on the left claim have no influence of the existance of gun violence has actually de-sensitized enough people in the general electorate to not care about making any change. It's "Oh that sucks, glad it wasn't me, that's just the way it is" and move on. Nothing is going to change because our culture now looks at mass shootings like bad car accidents. Sucks, but shit happens. 

 Think everyone is sick of the same NRA talking points.  Every other country has the same movies and video games without this mass shooting problem.

5 or 10 years ago people thought I was crazy for saying we had to get rid of the sacred filibuster.  Now it is mainstream.

The new "crazy" idea is we have to ban high capacity firearms from general circulation using the same techniques we used to ban machine guns and do it for the same reasons.  This will have to be done be 100% by Democrats and independents because Republicans will not participate. Only 1/5 of the US public owns an AR 15 and they are probably 100% Republican because these are single issue voters.  Stop catering to them and classify these weapons where they belong with dynamite and machine guns.

 

[Akkula]

The machine guns ban has been ruled unconstitutional by a Kansas court.  I think this is great news and hopefully the Supreme Court affirms that the machine gun ban is unconstitutional.

The dog needs to catch the car again like the Supreme Court did with Roe so people wake the hell up on the ridiculousness of allowing all these firearms.  The Democratic leaning appeals court needs to make sure to affirm this under the ridiculous "historical traditions" test so the SC will have to choose between allowing machine guns on the street and giving Democrats more electoral gold or giving a road map to banning other weapons.

https://www.ksnt.com/news/local-news/what-does-the-machine-gun-ruling-mean-for-kansans/

[RSF]

On 9/5/2024 at 1:24 AM, Nevada Convert said:

RSF knows everything. 

Me and retrofade and everybody who reads.