The Atlantic: The Kamala Harris Problem

[Nevada Convert]

On 7/22/2024 at 6:20 AM, Sactowndog said:

For someone who “hates Trump” you sure go out of your way to shill for him.  

What kind of logic is that?  Not liking Kamala makes me a Trump lover. Dude, pull the head out. Maybe I want Dems to dump her so a moderate like Beshear has a chance so I can actually vote for President in November. 

[AlpineSummer]

On 7/22/2024 at 12:17 PM, BYUcougfan said:

You can choose to believe that Biden went from a combination of Albert Einstein and Usaine Bolt to what we saw during the debate 4 months later if you want to.

That wasn't the point.  The point was Biden's decline is mostly physical, and its steepness is more recent than years back.  In '23, he held court at the G7 in Japan w/o foreign perceptions of some major decline.  He was still doing 90 mt. bike rides. But, the obvious recent decline all bleeds into the perception of his mental capacities, but perceptions are not reality despite the old saying.

I've said for some time that both old candidates, one now out, are most likely in Stage 2 of AD based on their ages, normal aging progression, and public observations like both breaking/losing trains of thought.  

All I'm doing is pointing out the folly of Biden has been a potatoe (Quayle preferred spelling) for years and there was a conspiracy to hide it.  There is no objective basis for that.  He's an old man acting and regressing as old men will do.  One down, one to go. 

 

[Sactowndog]

On 7/22/2024 at 8:15 AM, BYUcougfan said:

I don't know.  Not loving Trump does not mean you have to love Democrats.

When you vote for him anyway regardless of what he says and does there is no difference.  

[Nevada Convert]

On 7/22/2024 at 8:15 AM, BYUcougfan said:

I don't know.  Not loving Trump does not mean you have to love Democrats.

They’re a super sensitive bunch. I hate Trump, but why do I have to be OK with that disaster, Kamala, being president to be able to hate Trump? 

[Nevada Convert]

On 7/22/2024 at 8:11 AM, utenation said:

His circus act is pretty predictable. “I hate Trump” but likes his polices and voted for him twice smoke screen. 
 

Around election time it gets harder and harder to hide his closet MAGA costume. 
 

He’s starting to double down on MAGA Doctrine. Like clockwork. 

Utenation, the lying POS, is what is clockwork. 

[Nevada Convert]

On 7/22/2024 at 8:05 AM, utenation said:

So are you saying Connie isn’t really a “Centrist”?

For years, I had Convert pegged as a “right down the middle” type guy. 
 

It kinda sucks that his reputation is now shattered. 

Its fascinating to see how easily you get triggered. “Oh, booo whooo, Connie’s criticizing my gal!!!” 😝😝😝😝

[AlpineSummer]

On 7/22/2024 at 12:33 PM, Nevada Convert said:

They’re a super sensitive bunch. I hate Trump, but why would I have to be OK with that disaster, Kamala, being president? 

If you, for example, had even a fraction of knee jerk and long late night rambles say about JD's 180° fakery and far, far from centrist positions on a range of matters, it might temper perceptions (of you).   But, no.  You make short generic Trump references then ramble on about the evils of his opponents. It's what you do.  You own that. 

[utenation]

On 7/22/2024 at 12:40 PM, Nevada Convert said:

Its fascinating to see how easily you get triggered. “Oh, booo whooo, Connie’s criticizing my gal!!!” 😝😝😝😝

Triggered? She’s not my gal. You really need to start paying attention to what I’ve said about Team Biden. 
 

I guess when your complete agenda is running a Dem smear campaign 24/7, you miss those kind of details. 

[Nevada Convert]

On 7/22/2024 at 11:40 AM, AlpineSummer said:

If you, for example, had even a fraction of knee jerk and long late night rambles say about JD's 180° fakery and far, far from centrist positions on a range of matters, it might temper perceptions (of you).   But, no.  You make short generic Trump references then ramble on about the evils of his opponents. It's what you do.  You own that. 

I ripped on Vance last night, AlpineSucker.

I’ve said it a gazillion times. This place is a Dem echo chamber. You guys already spend so much time ripping the bullshit on the right, but you don’t cover the bullshit on the left, so I try to add some of that content. Sadly it makes you cry, but that is your choice and is not my problem. 

[Nevada Convert]

On 7/22/2024 at 11:45 AM, utenation said:

Triggered? She’s not my gal. You really need to start paying attention to what I’ve said about Team Biden. 
 

I guess when your complete agenda is running a Dem smear campaign 24/7, you miss those kind of details. 

Dude, just STFU. She is your gal. 

[Nevada Convert]

On 7/22/2024 at 11:32 AM, Sactowndog said:

When you vote for him anyway regardless of what he says and does there is no difference.  

I hope you’re not talking about me. 

[Nevada Convert]

On 7/22/2024 at 11:45 AM, utenation said:

Triggered? She’s not my gal. You really need to start paying attention to what I’ve said about Team Biden. 
 

I guess when your complete agenda is running a Dem smear campaign 24/7, you miss those kind of details. 

Utenation ❤️’s Kamala. True ❤️ forever. 

[utenation]

On 7/22/2024 at 12:48 PM, Nevada Convert said:

Dude, just STFU. She is your gal. 

This was just a few weeks ago. Again, you show you own zero objectivity and credibility. 
 

On 7/5/2024 at 10:57 AM, utenation said:

I just can’t get on board with Harris man.   
 

This is where she lost me. Was it a mistake? Yes. But a person in this position should be better. 
 

 

 

[AlpineSummer]

On 7/22/2024 at 12:47 PM, Nevada Convert said:

I ripped on Vance last night, AlpineSucker.

 

You should show yer work then.  I didn't see any, and a quick scroll through relevant threads did not reveal any ripping of Vance last night. 

It's possible you are a fibber.  A bullshitter.  So, show yer work.  And, even if you do have one example, it hardly balances the multiple ranting posts on Trump's opponents.  Hell, you even started an anti-Harris thread last night.  I don't see you starting a "JD is a phony" threads. 

Show yer work. 

[RSF]

On 7/22/2024 at 1:55 PM, Nevada Convert said:

Utenation ❤️’s Kamala. True ❤️ forever. 

That's a lame attempt even by your standards....

[BYUcougfan]

On 7/22/2024 at 11:31 AM, AlpineSummer said:

That wasn't the point.  The point was Biden's decline is mostly physical, and its steepness is more recent than years back.  In '23, he held court at the G7 in Japan w/o foreign perceptions of some major decline.  He was still doing 90 mt. bike rides. But, the obvious recent decline all bleeds into the perception of his mental capacities, but perceptions are not reality despite the old saying.

I've said for some time that both old candidates, one now out, are most likely in Stage 2 of AD based on their ages, normal aging progression, and public observations like both breaking/losing trains of thought.  

All I'm doing is pointing out the folly of Biden has been a potatoe (Quayle preferred spelling) for years and there was a conspiracy to hide it.  There is no objective basis for that.  He's an old man acting and regressing as old men will do.  One down, one to go. 

 

There are videos of him wondering around on stages and having problems well before the SOTU.  We disagree.  I think they knew there was a problem for quite some time. 

[USUrobert]

On 7/22/2024 at 3:23 PM, BYUcougfan said:

There are videos of him wondering around on stages and having problems well before the SOTU.  We disagree.  I think they knew there was a problem for quite some time. 

Yeah, people saying the decline is just physical are gaslighting.

[utenation]

On 7/22/2024 at 1:02 PM, AlpineSummer said:

Show yer work. 

Ooof. That’s where things get dicey and becomes an unsolved mystery. Exit stage left for Convert. 
 

Poor @PokeTransplant is the latest victim of missing data and evidence from Connie. 
 

I was told if it was “ a serious conversation” criteria I would get answers. I guess poketransplant wasn’t serious enough. 
 

These checks he keeps writing are bouncing faster than tennis balls at Wimbledon. 

[BYUcougfan]

On 7/22/2024 at 12:24 PM, USUrobert said:

Yeah, people saying the decline is just physical are gaslighting.

If they told me he went from more good days than bad days in February to more bad days than good days by June, I could buy that.  I am not buying they had no idea in February.

[Akkula]

On 7/22/2024 at 1:23 PM, BYUcougfan said:

There are videos of him wondering around on stages and having problems well before the SOTU.  We disagree.  I think they knew there was a problem for quite some time. 

Why are you guys still trying to punch at Biden?  I know you wish he was still running but he isn't.  "Biden is old" just lost its impact,  no?