Biden's Fortunes

[Akkula]

The guy thinks you are bunch of fools which is why he lies to you constantly.  The guy will take a sharpie and change the path of a hurricane and you guys will all swear it went over Alabama.  There is really just a large group of people who want to buy his snake oil so bad that they will disbelieve their own eyes.  Only what Trump says is the gospel!

[masterfrog]

On 7/21/2024 at 9:58 PM, Akkula said:

The guy thinks you are bunch of fools which is why he lies to you constantly.  The guy will take a sharpie and change the path of a hurricane and you guys will all swear it went over Alabama.  There is really just a large group of people who want to buy his snake oil so bad that they will disbelieve their own eyes.  Only what Trump says is the gospel!

Some people just want to be entertained. They know that all politicians lie to them. Trump makes it kind of fun as opposed to the way it has been done in the past. If you don’t believe all politicians lie, rewatch the last Presidential debate and know that every single White House Democrat has said Biden was fine for the past three and a half years. There has been some big lying coming out of the top echelon of the government and it hasn’t all been by Trump. 

[SDSUfan]

On 7/21/2024 at 7:09 PM, Akkula said:

I saw Champ Bailey and Patrick Roy, some of the best players in their respective positions get torched near the end of their careers.  Sometimes you can't see those things until they are tested. No conspiracy needed. 

😂 

 

[Akkula]

On 7/21/2024 at 9:08 PM, masterfrog said:

Some people just want to be entertained. They know that all politicians lie to them. Trump makes it kind of fun as opposed to the way it has been done in the past. If you don’t believe all politicians lie, rewatch the last Presidential debate and know that every single White House Democrat has said Biden was fine for the past three and a half years. There has been some big lying coming out of the top echelon of the government and it hasn’t all been by Trump. 

Well the funny thing is that you all were crying and yelling less than a decade ago about how Democrats were a bunch of socialists...now you have adopted half of the policies I have espoused over the years.  Get tough on China...help unions...be wary of the concentration of power to the elites, protect social security, medicare etc.  You guys basically took the occupy wall street movement and mixed it with a bunch or racism and sexism and also a bunch of nanny state regulations on women's bodies and federal oversight of trans people and voila.

So maybe instead of we are "all textualists" maybe we can say we are "all communists" now, no?  What do you people even stand for?  I think you stand for nothing and that is why you have to invent a bunch of silly conspiracies to somehow differentiate yourselves from Democrats.  Uniparty is right!

[NorthWestCowboy]

On 7/21/2024 at 7:34 PM, Akkula said:

I see Trump making mental mistakes all the time.  Look at youtube.  Why is there a double standard?  Trump should be put out to pasture too and the cult "leadership" keeps rolling him out again and again as well despite LOSING elections so often.  What wacky shit does he say?  What is the difference between Trump and Biden other than the fact that Democrats aren't a cult and actually made a change?  The Democratic primary voters chose Biden...not the "leadership."

 

Look at this?!?!?  Get ready for this on repeat over the next months.  Keep talking, Trump!
 

You're preaching to the choir when it comes to Trumps lack of fitness to be president.  You can cry double standard all you want but Trump was never going to get pushed out by the GOP. Trump now is the GOP.  It is a cult.  So why waste my breathe on calling for something that will never happen.  On the other hand my disgust with the Democrats is that they let this Biden re-election charade happen in the first place.  The fact that they pushed him out at the last minute has weakened their chances considerably.  Are you really naive enough to think that had the Democratic leadership not blindly supported Bidens re-election bid that several other D candidates other than a virtually unknown Dean Philips would have run in the primary?  Biden should not have even been in the mix for the 2024 campaign.  You can say the primary voters chose Biden all you want but the choices they were given were 100% decided by the leadership.  And the leadership was telling them to vote for Biden.

[masterfrog]

On 7/21/2024 at 10:13 PM, Akkula said:

Well the funny thing is that you all were crying and yelling less than a decade ago about how Democrats were a bunch of socialists...now you have adopted half of the policies I have espoused over the years.  Get tough on China...help unions...be wary of the concentration of power to the elites, protect social security, medicare etc.  You guys basically took the occupy wall street movement and mixed it with a bunch or racism and sexism and also a bunch of nanny state regulations on women's bodies and federal oversight of trans people and voila.

So maybe instead of we are "all textualists" maybe we can say we are "all communists" now, no?  What do you people even stand for?  I think you stand for nothing and that is why you have to invent a bunch of silly conspiracies to somehow differentiate yourselves from Democrats.  Uniparty is right!

You sound bitter. I’m sorry your candidate dropped out today. 

[Akkula]

On 7/21/2024 at 9:14 PM, NorthWestCowboy said:

You're preaching to the choir when it comes to Trumps lack of fitness to be president.  You can cry double standard all you want but Trump was never going to get pushed out by the GOP. Trump now is the GOP.  It is a cult.  So why waste my breathe on calling for something that will never happen.  On the other hand my disgust with the Democrats is that they let this Biden re-election charade happen in the first place.  The fact that they pushed him out at the last minute has weakened their chances considerably.  Are you really naive enough to think that had the Democratic leadership not blindly supported Bidens re-election bid that several other D candidates other than a virtually unknown Dean Philips would have run in the primary?  Biden should not have even been in the mix for the 2024 campaign.  You can say the primary voters chose Biden all you want but the choices they were given were 100% decided by the leadership.  And the leadership was telling them to vote for Biden.

Joe Biden solidly beat Trump last time and WON every debate he had against Trump during the last cycle.  Joe Biden has pushed through more legislation in a divided congress than just about any president.  During the last cycle the conjobs were also saying he was locked in his basement and afraid to get out.    We have to be very careful to just buy hook line and sinker the same narrative about his fitness for office and a rerun of the Hunter Biden bullshit.  

This change could very well be a mistake.  We will see.  Biden BEAT Trump so it is not the "leadership" who just anointed Biden.  Voters chose him because he was a proven commodity against Trump!

[NorthWestCowboy]

On 7/21/2024 at 8:21 PM, Akkula said:

Joe Biden solidly beat Trump last time and WON every debate he had against Trump during the last cycle.  Joe Biden has pushed through more legislation in a divided congress than just about any president.  During the last cycle the conjobs were also saying he was locked in his basement and afraid to get out.    We have to be very careful to just buy hook line and sinker the same narrative about his fitness for office and a rerun of the Hunter Biden bullshit.  

This change could very well be a mistake.  We will see.  Biden BEAT Trump so it is not the "leadership" who just anointed Biden.  Voters chose him because he was a proven commodity against Trump!

You are proving my points very well with every post you make tonight.  First of all, Joe Biden won the last election because there was a coalition of Democrats, independents and never Trump Republicans voting against Trump.  Biden did not win because the voters overwhelmingly wanted Biden to be president.  This is a fact.  And frankly as an independent I am disgusted and pissed off at the Democratic party for trying to force a clearly diminished Biden down the throat of the very independents they need to again beat Trump!

 To your point of Biden winning the 2020 debates my only response it that that Joe Biden no longer exists.  The last 4 years have not been kind to him.  I take no pleasure in saying this.  Age comes for us all and it is not a political problem that can be solved.  It is a fact of life.

Please stop using Bidens past as a predicter of his future.  I and most Americans are not buying it.  Joe Biden is not the same man he was in 2020.  His abilities have declined.  Frankly it is insulting to think 2024 is simply a rewind of 2020.  It's clearly not.  I think there are at least 6-7 Democrats that could have taken the anti-Trump coalition, combined with youth and a political future and would presently have a comfortable lead on Trump.  The lack of a real Democratic primary and the predictable struggles of the 2024 Biden campaign resulting in a rush to find a replacement nominee has likely given Trump the election.

And again, voters chose Biden?  Can you honestly say they were given a real choice?

[Akkula]

On 7/21/2024 at 9:39 PM, NorthWestCowboy said:

You are proving my points very well with every post you make tonight.  First of all, Joe Biden won the last election because there was a coalition of Democrats, independents and never Trump Republicans voting against Trump.  Biden did not win because the voters overwhelmingly wanted Biden to be president.  This is a fact.  And frankly as an independent I am disgusted and pissed off at the Democratic party for trying to force a clearly diminished Biden down the throat of the very independents they need to again beat Trump!

 To your point of Biden winning the 2020 debates my only response it that that Joe Biden no longer exists.  The last 4 years have not been kind to him.  I take no pleasure in saying this.  Age comes for us all and it is not a political problem that can be solved.  It is a fact of life.

Please stop using Bidens past as a predicter of his future.  I and most Americans are not buying it.  Joe Biden is not the same man he was in 2020.  His abilities have declined.  Frankly it is insulting to think 2024 is simply a rewind of 2020.  It's clearly not.  I think there are at least 6-7 Democrats that could have taken the anti-Trump coalition, combined with youth and a political future and would presently have a comfortable lead on Trump.  The lack of a real Democratic primary and the predictable struggles of the 2024 Biden campaign resulting in a rush to find a replacement nominee has likely given Trump the election.

And again, voters chose Biden?  Can you honestly say they were given a real choice?

I think the whining about Biden is a little immature and unsophisticated.  The reality in the USA is we only have two real choices who can win the Presidency or we can vote for a spoiler. The prior choice was against a felon who aspires and idolizes Hitler or another old guy who very well would need to be propped up by a bunch of competent cabinet secretaries like "weekend at Bernie's."  I choose "weekend at Bernie's Joe" over "Mousselini's Godson" any day.  I think that so called "independents" who don't find this to be an easy choice kind of funny.  

We call people like you the "double haters."  But I think Democrats and Joe Biden were pretty confident that you would do the right thing ad pull the lever for "Bernie" in November even if you were bitching about it all the way until then and telling pollsters that you may not.  

Now you have an old wanna be racist fascist against a relatively unknow and younger fresh face who anyone who wants to prove they are "not racist" will vote for by default.  A lot of independents don't have had their head in the sand and don't know much about anything.  "Not racist" vs "Racist" is a pretty good reason to vote someone for a low information "independent".

[thelawlorfaithful]

On 7/21/2024 at 7:44 PM, Akkula said:

You better get to work on the dark web trying to invent another silly conspiracy theory about Kamala don't you think?  All the Hunter Biden work just went down the tubes.  What wacky conspiratorial shit are we going to find in the next few weeks about Kamala?  Who wants to take a bet?

Lol Kamala couldn’t even make it to Iowa within her own party. This is going to be hilarious.

[NorthWestCowboy]

On 7/21/2024 at 8:46 PM, Akkula said:

I think the whining about Biden is a little immature and unsophisticated.  The reality in the USA is we only have two real choices who can win the Presidency or we can vote for a spoiler. The prior choice was against a felon who aspires and idolizes Hitler or another old guy who very well would need to be propped up by a bunch of competent cabinet secretaries like "weekend at Bernie's."  I choose "weekend at Bernie's Joe" over "Mousselini's Godson" any day.  I think that so called "independents" who don't find this to be an easy choice kind of funny.  

We call people like you the "double haters."  But I think Democrats and Joe Biden were pretty confident that you would do the right thing ad pull the lever for "Bernie" in November even if you were bitching about it all the way until then and telling pollsters that you may not.  

You are correct on the reality of American politics having an all-controlling duopoly.  Oh, and by the way the real reason the Trump vs Biden debate took place so early in June and not in late September or early October as was the norm in modern presidential races going back to 1984 is because both the Trump and Biden camps wanted to have the debate before RFK Jr got to 15% in the polls and got on the debate stage.  Both campaigns were worried about RFK Jr hurting their candidates in a general election.  Just another example of how the unholy GOP DEM duopoly does all it can to squelch third parties and independent candidates.

Somewhere between 47-51%, depending on what source you read of the electorate are registered as Independents.  More and more I believe that the very survival of our American democracy hinges on our ability to throw off the shackles of the two-party system that only works to divide us more and more with every election cycle.  My hope was that there would be enough disaffected Republicans that a third party might begin to form with them and right of center independents.  That clearly has not happened.  The way in which the 'No Labels' movement was roundly criticized and attacked by the media and the Democratic party only reinforces that they will fight to maintain the two-party norm.

Call me and the millions of disaffected voters Double Haters all you want.  I hope this cute little nickname gives you solace in having a group of people to blame when you look up from your tear-stained pillow on the morning of November 6th.

[Spaztecs]

On 7/21/2024 at 7:58 PM, SDSUfan said:

The alternative is that those closest to him actually didn't believe the man was deep into dementia. That they thought he could take the stage and expound extemporaneously on a variety of topics, uninterrupted.

 

Okay

The Boobery speaks.

Or, those closest to him figured they could foist a Weekend at Bernies upon us.