Nevada Convert Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 WTF?? I could live in Europe. https://www.the-sun.com/motors/11921875/speed-limiting-ai-tech-today-eu-loophole/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FresnoFacts Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 LOL, guess you missed this info for a California rant. California's State Senate passed SB961 in May. The bill is now in the Assembly. SB961 would require passive speed devices in cars by 2032 that would beep/buzz/warn when someone is 10 mph over the speed limit. If passed it probably means cars in other states would have it also. https://www.roadandtrack.com/news/a60871999/california-passive-speed-limiters-bill/ The passive devices are just an "what was old is new again". "In the good old days" I remember many cars were equipped with a manual speedometer warning. You used to set a marker/arrow to the maximum speed you wanted to drive at (such as the speed limit or a little over). The speedometer would buzz when your speed touched or exceeded that mark to help avoid too many speeding tickets. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happycamper Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 I cannot fathom how annoying these things will be when they are wrong about the speed limit and the option is "get passed by everyone and go dangerously slowly" or "get constantly screamed at" 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZonaPoke Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 On 7/16/2024 at 1:11 PM, happycamper said: I cannot fathom how annoying these things will be when they are wrong about the speed limit and the option is "get passed by everyone and go dangerously slowly" or "get constantly screamed at" If safety is the priority, they should make it so the car automatically moves you out of the left lane when it detects you not going at least 10mph over the speed limit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nevada Convert Posted July 17 Author Share Posted July 17 On 7/16/2024 at 12:09 PM, FresnoFacts said: LOL, guess you missed this info for a California rant. California's State Senate passed SB961 in May. The bill is now in the Assembly. SB961 would require passive speed devices in cars by 2032 that would beep/buzz/warn when someone is 10 mph over the speed limit. If passed it probably means cars in other states would have it also. https://www.roadandtrack.com/news/a60871999/california-passive-speed-limiters-bill/ The passive devices are just an "what was old is new again". "In the good old days" I remember many cars were equipped with a manual speedometer warning. You used to set a marker/arrow to the maximum speed you wanted to drive at (such as the speed limit or a little over). The speedometer would buzz when your speed touched or exceeded that mark to help avoid too many speeding tickets. They’ll be easy to bypass. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CV147 Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 How would that work in places like Germany where they don't have a strict speed limit on their autobahn? Frankly we need that in the U.S. The speed limits here are in many cases arbitrary, and even police officers regularly exceed the limit. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FresnoFacts Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 On 7/17/2024 at 2:34 AM, Nevada Convert said: They’ll be easy to bypass. First step. The original bill called for an active speed limiter. Vehicles would not be able to exceed 10mph over the road speed limit (except for emergency vehicles). But the bill was amended to a passive system to get it passed for now. I will not be surprised to see a future bill change it from a passive to an active system requirement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 Next up....govts will query your car where ever you go and send you a tax bill. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InnZoneU Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 On 7/18/2024 at 12:31 PM, Jack said: Next up....govts will query your car where ever you go and send you a tax bill. Already being done by insurance agencies that send you an annual spedometer statement to determine your rates. And I guess also what you already pay in taxes at the pump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 On 7/18/2024 at 4:26 PM, InnZoneU said: Already being done by insurance agencies that send you an annual spedometer statement to determine your rates. And I guess also what you already pay in taxes at the pump. Haven't seen the speedo statement thing. I think Oregon was proposing a mileage tax with the main concern being EVs that dont pay gasoline taxes. At least that was before they were a failed fad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hashbrowns Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 On 7/18/2024 at 5:33 PM, Jack said: Haven't seen the speedo statement thing. I think Oregon was proposing a mileage tax with the main concern being EVs that dont pay gasoline taxes. At least that was before they were a failed fad. Washington is planning one as well, vetoed by Gov Inslee from going in place next year, but will be a thing - likely by 2035. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renoskier Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 On 7/18/2024 at 8:32 PM, Hashbrowns said: Washington is planning one as well, vetoed by Gov Inslee from going in place next year, but will be a thing - likely by 2035. as an ever increasing percentage of the nationwide fleet moves to EVs and hybrids, something must change in the way we fund our transportation network Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hashbrowns Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 On 7/18/2024 at 9:47 PM, renoskier said: as an ever increasing percentage of the nationwide fleet moves to EVs and hybrids, something must change in the way we fund our transportation network Yeah, will likely be a yearly odometer check or something. GPS tracking a non-starter for everybody. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InnZoneU Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 On 7/18/2024 at 5:33 PM, Jack said: Haven't seen the speedo statement thing. I think Oregon was proposing a mileage tax with the main concern being EVs that dont pay gasoline taxes. At least that was before they were a failed fad. Yeah Geico sends me one every six-months. I agree with the fact EVs mitigate the gas taxes being collected. Won't be long until everyone is required by law to stick a device into the OBD port. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSF Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 On 7/18/2024 at 5:26 PM, InnZoneU said: Already being done by insurance agencies that send you an annual spedometer statement to determine your rates. And I guess also what you already pay in taxes at the pump. Then you need to find a new insurer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe from Wyo Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 Doubt they’ll be able to track my 70s Chevy step-side I guess lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 On 7/18/2024 at 10:57 PM, Hashbrowns said: Yeah, will likely be a yearly odometer check or something. GPS tracking a non-starter for everybody. GPS tracking is already being done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 On 7/18/2024 at 10:47 PM, renoskier said: as an ever increasing percentage of the nationwide fleet moves to EVs and hybrids, something must change in the way we fund our transportation network EVs will be a good thing in the south and southern cities for 1/2 hour commutes. North of the Mason Dixon line...not. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 On 7/19/2024 at 8:20 AM, Joe from Wyo said: Doubt they’ll be able to track my 70s Chevy step-side I guess lol Awesome. My 69 W200 power Wagon is looking better. The 4.10 gears make x country trips a bit hard. Top speed is about 55mph. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSF Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 On 7/19/2024 at 11:22 AM, Jack said: EVs will be a good thing in the south and southern cities for 1/2 hour commutes. North of the Mason Dixon line...not. Tell us you've never lived in a northern city without telling us you've never lived in a northern city. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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