Landslide for Trump

[ClevelandBrown]

Why do right leaning folks not take project 25 seriously? They look at it as a leftist version of qanon delusion when it's an actual 800 page manifesto from a very powerful think tank.

[Nevada Convert]

On 7/12/2024 at 4:57 PM, mysfit said:

Trump says whatever group he's in front of wants to hear. 

That’s true, and it just backs up what I’m saying. He’s kissing Heritage ass saying he’s excited about what they’re working on despite not having seen the final results. What serves him best in this 2024 political environment is to blow it off. If it benefited him, he would absolutely support it. But that’s just not the case, and it makes sense. He needs independent moderates, and the right wingers will vote for him, anyway. So blowing P25 is the clear calculation he’s making. 

 

[Jack]

Imitation is flattery....Joe looked so close to pasty death during the debate that he is now more orange than trump ever was. LOL.

[Bison]

On 7/12/2024 at 6:05 PM, mysfit said:

Project 2025 is the wish list of the far right. Trump just happens to be the vehicle most likely to win the Oval office and allow them to start rolling out their agenda. If Trump fails in his bid this year, Project 2025 will be working to get a nominee who will allow them to enact their agenda whenever a Republican sits in the White House again.

It's willful ignorance to think it's "just a trump thing". This group is dangerous. That trump would allow them to pursue their agenda is a legitimate concern. But it would be a concern if the candidate was say that nut job in Florida. The group is the real danger. Pull your head out and look at the big picture.

 

You think the Dems won't pump more money into the House and Senate races after Joe gets replaced?  And even if there is GOP control of the House with the current margins, there's still enough moderate Republicans to tell Trump no.

And I don't think the GOP will get 60 senate votes to make the Senate filibuster-proof.

Doing a little math could be beneficial here.  And if the current House margins remains about the same, it probably means the House flips back to the Dems in 2026.

[Spaztecs]

On 7/12/2024 at 5:17 PM, Nevada Convert said:

You’re just too much of a hopeless partisan dumbass to even remotely analyze the situation objectively. You have the MSNBC mentality. 

Heritage has forever been an economic think tank for the GOP, and well respected over the years. Now they’ve suddenly decided to take a stab at social issues, as well, which has been an obvious big mistake. 

When Trump made these comments, he hadn’t even seen them. He eventually did, and now he wants nothing to do with them. That’s just reality. 

We all know Trump has no character, he lies constantly, and is known to flip flop. But we know he’s not an ideologue nor a conservative one at that. Trump will do whatever it takes to gain power and keep it. 

Right now, he realizes that the ultra conservative shit in the P25 is a total loser. He’s kissed the right’s ass for so long, he knows they’ll still support him even he pivots to the center to win the presidency and win back Congress. So that’s his political calculation right now, and he has to do it to win and stay in power. This is Trumpy version 2.0. 

How do we know he won’t flip to P25 if he wins? If it were an advantage for him, he absolutely would. He has no character and that’s why I’ll never vote for him. But it’s not terribly hard to predict what Trump will do. It’s not all about America, American’s or our allies. It’s all about what benefits him. That’s not terribly hard to follow. The P25 is a loser for Trump. The people that support P25 will still vote for him even if he wants nothing to do with it. 

You are completely naive about Trump and his base. You and some others actually believe the GOP platform which rejected P2025 will actually hold once he takes power. He lies about everything and anything and will go all the way.

You obviously choose to believe in Donnies goodness and hia sense of fair play. You also seem to choose to cover your ears and chant "Not true" when Trump says he will rule with an iron fist, will round up his political opponents, and seek retribution.

What part of the last eight years makes you believe he will rule with an even hand ? The part that hears him only speak to his base ?

[Spaztecs]

On 7/12/2024 at 5:21 PM, Nevada Convert said:

25% of the GOP support that shit, tops. Probably closer to 20%. Those that support all of it, even less. Total boogeyman. 

Try 75%.

And, even if you are right about the 20%, the other 80% won't raise a peep when he starts enacting it.

[Nevada Convert]

On 7/13/2024 at 5:59 AM, Spaztecs said:

Try 75%.

And, even if you are right about the 20%, the other 80% won't raise a peep when he starts enacting it.

You’re a crazy lunatic, too. 

[TSpoke]

On 7/12/2024 at 6:58 PM, Nevada Convert said:

That’s true, and it just backs up what I’m saying. He’s kissing Heritage ass saying he’s excited about what they’re working on despite not having seen the final results. What serves him best in this 2024 political environment is to blow it off. If it benefited him, he would absolutely support it. But that’s just not the case, and it makes sense. He needs independent moderates, and the right wingers will vote for him, anyway. So blowing P25 is the clear calculation he’s making. 

 

And who will fill his administration if he wins.... It will be full of the people who crafted p25 and they will get it enacted. 

[Spaztecs]

On 7/13/2024 at 7:04 AM, Nevada Convert said:

You’re a crazy lunatic, too. 

You're ignorant and naive.

You also said that about me when i predicted Trump would go off the rails when he lost in 2020.

 

Yet, here we are.

[Nevada Convert]

On 7/13/2024 at 6:16 AM, Spaztecs said:

You're ignorant and naive.

You also said that about me when i predicted Trump would go off the rails when he lost in 2020.

 

Yet, here we are.

Dude, you’ve been wrong about everything. You’re like the Rebel Robert of politics. 

[Nevada Convert]

On 7/13/2024 at 6:15 AM, TSpoke said:

And who will fill his administration if he wins.... It will be full of the people who crafted p25 and they will get it enacted. 

You’re about as bright as Spaztecs. Let’s just say for a minute you’re right and Trump’s cabinet decides to revolt against Trump, they don’t care about getting destroyed in the midterms and try to make the crazy shit in P25 reality on their own. Dude, a lot of it has to pass through Congress, and there’s too many moderate GOP that would never let that happen even if the GOP had a slight majority in the Senate. Stop watching MSNBC. You’re acting like a polar opposite Newsmax right winger. 

[TSpoke]

On 7/13/2024 at 7:32 AM, Nevada Convert said:

You’re about as bright as Spaztecs. Let’s just say for a minute you’re right and Trump’s cabinet decides to revolt against Trump, they don’t care about getting destroyed in the midterms and try to make the crazy shit in P25 reality on their own. Dude, a lot of it has to pass through Congress, and there’s too many moderate GOP that would never let that happen even if the GOP had a slight majority in the Senate. Stop watching MSNBC. You’re acting like a polar opposite Newsmax right winger. 

Revolt against Trump? You said yourself he has no principles so he goes along with whatever people say and they will be in his ear convincing him to do as they say. 

And anyway the fact that he will be surrounded by people who wrote this plan and want to enact it, even if they aren't able to implement it due to other reasons proves this isn't a left wing bogey man it is a real threat that has a non zero chance of happening. 

[SharkTanked]

On 7/12/2024 at 2:47 PM, halfmanhalfbronco said:

If they moved it to 20 weeks, the now standard of viability, they would win going away.

The viability standard just makes the most sense

I had always thought 24 weeks was the standard for viability. Has that changed?

[Rebelcuff]

Trump becoming a dictator is just a scare tactic by the far left.

[halfmanhalfbronco]

On 7/13/2024 at 3:05 PM, SharkTanked said:

I had always thought 24 weeks was the standard for viability. Has that changed?

Was 24 originally when Roe became law.  I thought it was 20 now but I looked it up and it's 22-3

[azgreg]

Abortion should be legal until the age of 18.

[SharkTanked]

On 7/13/2024 at 2:19 PM, halfmanhalfbronco said:

Was 24 originally when Roe became law.  I thought it was 20 now but I looked it up and it's 22-3

I think 22 is a reasonable line in the sand. Would be even better to it be just set as the "standard of viability" which gets determined by some coalition of AMA, HHS, etc. But the current "big brains bad" GOP and SCOTUS would never go for such a thing.

[SharkTanked]

On 7/13/2024 at 2:20 PM, azgreg said:

Abortion should be legal until the age of 18.

Make Selective Service Great Again?

[bornontheblue]

On 7/13/2024 at 11:18 AM, Rebelcuff said:

Trump becoming a dictator is just a scare tactic by the far left.

Careful, you will subject yourself to constant henpecking from @Sactowndog. 

[SharkTanked]

On 7/13/2024 at 2:18 PM, Rebelcuff said:

Trump becoming a dictator is just a scare tactic by the far left.

I am less concerned about a dictatorship than I am a significant erosion of the separation of powers. But hell maybe it would go the other way in an effort to keep the idiot in check?

I think he can and will do far more damage to the world than he will to the US directly. But we will ultimately suffer the consequences of that too.