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[AztecAlien]

On 7/9/2024 at 10:22 PM, retrofade said:

Dude, I've been awake for almost 48 at this point. You do whatever you need to do.

Should we do it over drinks some other time? 

 

[AztecAlien]

Hey @retrofade, do people on this board know you spent 12+ hours straight on the other board trying to insult me then claimed you're the intellectual superior? 🤣 Of course the intelligent troll squad joined in as well. Yet after going almost 4 years, I haven't gone anywhere. Let's do it again and show them what an amazing person you are. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Sactowndog]

On 7/9/2024 at 9:03 PM, AztecAlien said:

How did you even get the idea I'm a Trumper? Where are those posts that would suggest that? Is it because I'm not a far left loon like the majority here and the other board? My opinions differ, so that must make me a Trumper. Typical left go to. And yes, you were trolling the conservatives on the board on purpose, including me. You also trolled me in the pick 10 thread with some odd claims. Again, stop making stuff up.

If you must know, I lean right of center after being a registered Democrat for 35 years. 

Que @retrofade to turn this into a tantrum.  I will continue to battle him and his troll posse. You know who they are. One's a self proclaimed 25 year troll veteran. It's all he has in life. Pretty pathetic really. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Honest question.  Biden and Trump are your only options.  For whom do you vote? 

[AztecAlien]

On 7/9/2024 at 10:33 PM, Sactowndog said:

Honest question.  Biden and Trump are your only options.  For whom do you vote? 

I have no idea, and it's really no concern of yours. I don't ask people who they are going to vote for or start threads asking as well. 

Hopefully, someone with some experience, some ethics and is willing to protect Americans from corporate bureaucrats who are actually controlling our lawmakers jumps in. I have some ideas, but that's for me to analyze. 

 

 

 

[Nevada Convert]

On 7/9/2024 at 9:33 PM, Sactowndog said:

Honest question.  Biden and Trump are your only options.  For whom do you vote? 

You don’t. I won’t vote for either. 

[stanfordchef]

On 7/10/2024 at 12:23 AM, Nevada Convert said:

You don’t. I won’t vote for either. 

Same. If they manage to prop Joe up with a stick through the election im not voting for anyone. Given it’s California, may be tempted to vote for Trump as a protest vote in that scenario. But that said, if Trump picks Vance as Veep, I’m 110% not voting for either him or the dead guy. 

[Nevada Convert]

On 7/10/2024 at 12:36 AM, Joe from Wyo said:

Same. If they manage to prop Joe up with a stick through the election im not voting for anyone. Given it’s California, may be tempted to vote for Trump as a protest vote in that scenario. But that said, if Trump picks Vance as Veep, I’m 110% not voting for either him or the dead guy. 

Yeah, Vance is a Putin cocksucker. 

[Nevada Convert]

I’m going to write in Dirk Diggler for President. 

[Sactowndog]

On 7/10/2024 at 12:36 AM, Joe from Wyo said:

Same. If they manage to prop Joe up with a stick through the election im not voting for anyone. Given it’s California, may be tempted to vote for Trump as a protest vote in that scenario. But that said, if Trump picks Vance as Veep, I’m 110% not voting for either him or the dead guy. 

While I tend to feel the same I’m curious if you were in a swing state how you would vote given Project 2025 and the SCOTUS decision on Presidential Immunity and Trump’s ability to add more judges loyal to him over the Constitution.  
 

For me those two things kind of tip the scale.  

[Sactowndog]

On 7/10/2024 at 1:20 AM, Nevada Convert said:

Yeah, Vance is a Putin cocksucker. 

All of MAGA is.  And you are in a swing state.  But I get voting for Biden is a step too far.  
 

just curious does the SCOTUS ruling and the thought of Eileen Cannon on the Supreme Court concern you at all?  

[stanfordchef]

On 7/10/2024 at 8:14 AM, Sactowndog said:

While I tend to feel the same I’m curious if you were in a swing state how you would vote given Project 2025 and the SCOTUS decision on Presidential Immunity and Trump’s ability to add more judges loyal to him over the Constitution.  
 

For me those two things kind of tip the scale.  

I just wouldn’t vote for President or would simply write in Jello Biafra. It’s an insult that they keep pushing Joe out there while gaslighting anyone who says it’s a bad idea. Frankly they deserve to lose at this point if the status quo holds. 
 

they can’t with a straight face suggest on one hand Trump is the gravest threat to democracy while simultaneously running a mummy who has no chance of winning nor likely any clue what day it is. I refuse to reward them with my vote. 

[Nevada Convert]

On 7/10/2024 at 8:14 AM, Sactowndog said:

While I tend to feel the same I’m curious if you were in a swing state how you would vote given Project 2025 and the SCOTUS decision on Presidential Immunity and Trump’s ability to add more judges loyal to him over the Constitution.  
 

For me those two things kind of tip the scale.  

First of all, yes it would all suck. However, Project 25 being implemented is DNC boogeyman nonsense. It’s not being considered into the GOP platform.

The Dems are dangerously just concerned about beating Trump and nothing else, such as having a functional president that could be woken up at tonight and make coherent decisions immediately in an emergency. We don’t have that right now and that is dangerous, as well. We have un-elected people making decisions in an emergency for the president. That is truly un-American and without precedent. 

[Sactowndog]

On 7/10/2024 at 8:24 AM, Joe from Wyo said:

I just wouldn’t vote for President or would simply write in Jello Biafra. It’s an insult that they keep pushing Joe out there while gaslighting anyone who says it’s a bad idea. Frankly they deserve to lose at this point if the status quo holds. 
 

they can’t with a straight face suggest on one hand Trump is the gravest threat to democracy while simultaneously running a mummy who has no chance of winning nor likely any clue what day it is. I refuse to reward them with my vote. 

Yeah I get the thoughts.  I donated to Dean Phillips and sent links about him to friends.  The field was so slanted however he had no chance.  I certainly didn’t in any way want Biden to win and took heat from @Akkula and others.  
 

That all said at some point if you truly believe Trump is a threat then not voting Biden is cutting off your nose to spite your face.   I’m trying to decide what that point is.  

[SharkTanked]

Tribalism is already here. Whether Trump wins or loses it is not going away.

[Sactowndog]

On 7/10/2024 at 9:00 AM, Nevada Convert said:

First of all, yes it would all suck. However, Project 25 being implemented is DNC boogeyman nonsense. It’s not being considered into the GOP platform.

The Dems are dangerously just concerned about beating Trump and nothing else, such as having a functional president that could be woken up at tonight and make coherent decisions immediately in an emergency. We don’t have that right now and that is dangerous, as well. We have un-elected people making decisions in an emergency for the president. That is truly un-American and without precedent. 

I think you are wrong about 2025.  Trump will absolutely implement it.   It’s fully within character and aligns with what he tried to do previously.  Trump doesn’t willingly put up with subordinates who put loyalty to the Constitution over loyalty to him.   
 

just curious if there is a line where you have to prevent Trump from taking office which means voting Biden however much you hate him.   I honestly don’t think any line exists at all for 60% of the pop.  

[Sactowndog]

On 7/10/2024 at 10:27 AM, SharkTanked said:

Tribalism is already here. Whether Trump wins or loses it is not going away.

And if true that is a very dangerous thing.  

[Spaztecs]

On 7/9/2024 at 7:49 AM, AztecAlien said:

Show me all this support for Trump that I've posted here or the other board clown. If you can't do it, then STFU and stop tagging me with your lies. Just because I think you're a far left loon and are antisemitic, doesn't mean I support Trump. I have posted nothing to suggest otherwise. Here or the other board. Nothing. 

Why don't you post the many times I have stated my displeasure for the two party system and the corruption by both. It's there many times, but nothing supporting Trump. I have called Trump a bumbling idiot multiple times, especially during the pandemic. Post that liar. 

 

 

 

 

You will vote Trump for a third time because you can't stomach voting for Biden.

[SharkTanked]

On 7/10/2024 at 11:22 AM, Sactowndog said:

And if true that is a very dangerous thing.  

Gird thy loins. Tribalism has been around for most of my life. They are just saying the quiet parts out loud now and it has devolved into populism and cult of personality to hide unpopular policy positions. 

[Spaztecs]

On 7/10/2024 at 9:14 AM, Sactowndog said:

While I tend to feel the same I’m curious if you were in a swing state how you would vote given Project 2025 and the SCOTUS decision on Presidential Immunity and Trump’s ability to add more judges loyal to him over the Constitution.  
 

For me those two things kind of tip the scale.  

I would crawl through the Arizona desert naked to vote for Biden. However, Trump wins 2-1 here in Utah. I'm looking for a good 3rd Party option 

[Sactowndog]

On 7/10/2024 at 11:33 AM, SharkTanked said:

Gird thy loins. Tribalism has been around for most of my life. They are just saying the quiet parts out loud now and it has devolved into populism and cult of personality to hide unpopular policy positions. 

The U.S. has largely avoided Tribalism as seen in much of the rest of the world.  Generally we have put the Constitution before the Tribe.  Whether that continues remains to be seen.