Oregonian Beat Writer Discusses Blazers, Ducks

[Scscsc89]

Sounds like the guy is a little to used to the pros -- you obviously can't treat college kids the same way....

 

 

 

 

http://www.blazersedge.com/2013/8/20/4642080/interview-the-oregonians-jason-quick-discusses-leaving-blazers-beat

 

Blazersedge: What's your first impression of the Oregon football program, along those lines? Is it the contrast you expected?

 

Jason Quick: "[The access] sucks. It sucks. It's awful. It's horrid. On the Oregon beat, the kids are awesome. There hasn't been one guy that I've talked to that hasn't been engaging, well-spoken, polite. Every kid I've talked to I've been really, really impressed with. The coaches, on the other hand, I can't say the same. They're almost trying to be difficult. It's frustrating. It's obvious they have no respect for our profession.

[RogueDuck]

The Oregonian has one foot in the grave, and I for one don't read it anymore.  Quick was ok with the blazers, but I can't see him being anything worth a crap as the UO beat guy.

[KUGRDON]

Sounds like the guy is a little to used to the pros -- you obviously can't treat college kids the same way....

 

 

 

 

http://www.blazersedge.com/2013/8/20/4642080/interview-the-oregonians-jason-quick-discusses-leaving-blazers-beat

 

Blazersedge: What's your first impression of the Oregon football program, along those lines? Is it the contrast you expected?

 

Jason Quick: "[The access] sucks. It sucks. It's awful. It's horrid. On the Oregon beat, the kids are awesome. There hasn't been one guy that I've talked to that hasn't been engaging, well-spoken, polite. Every kid I've talked to I've been really, really impressed with. The coaches, on the other hand, I can't say the same. They're almost trying to be difficult. It's frustrating. It's obvious they have no respect for our profession.

 

Sounds like the issues were not with the players, but the coaches.  No respect for journalists?  The UO coaches are more intelligent than I might have guessed. 

[Orange]

Kelly was always intentionally obtuse with journalists.  Riley was, and is, an open book.  As a result, OSU gets better treatment in the press.  I'd say the smart coaches use a different tactic.

 

Helfrich is already better than Kelly, from what I've heard.  

[RogueDuck]

Kelly was always intentionally obtuse with journalists.  Riley was, and is, an open book.  As a result, OSU gets better treatment in the press.  I'd say the smart coaches use a different tactic.

 

Helfrich is already better than Kelly, from what I've heard.  

 

Actually Kelly was pretty open at first, until the local media continued to print lie after lie.  Then Kelly stopped talking to them, they cut their own throats by not actually getting facts. 

[MisterEm]

Actually Kelly was pretty open at first, until the local media continued to print lie after lie.  Then Kelly stopped talking to them, they cut their own throats by not actually getting facts. 

 

Thanks for adding that.  I would reiterate that Kelly - like Sark - was very open to the media at the start of his tenure.  After the Oregonian - and the Seattle Times for Sark - published deprecating columns about the University and their respective programs - both coaches changed their tunes regarding interviews and practice availabilty.

 

On another note, I am enjoying Mr. Jude as the new Husky blogger.  His time at Oregon will be a huge plus for our myopic fan base.

[PapaG]

John Canzano is solely to blame for UO freezing out local media.  Canzano was so sure that Lyles was going to be the end of the Oregon program, that he burned every single bridge with Kelly and the coaching staff.  The UO staff, even under Chip, was very open with the national media.  The Portland media these days is basically an anti-Duck instrument, with hosts still trying to get the Ducks punished by insinuating now payments for autographs.  

[PapaG]

Kelly was always intentionally obtuse with journalists.  Riley was, and is, an open book.  As a result, OSU gets better treatment in the press.  I'd say the smart coaches use a different tactic.

 

Helfrich is already better than Kelly, from what I've heard.  

Yeah, 4-loss Riley is such a "smart" coach.  He gets good treatment in the media because there is no reason to try and go after OS.  They are a mediocre program with almost no national exposure, so breaking negative news on their various arrests this summer does nothing for the reporter nationally.

 

You don't get on ESPN by reporting that Tyler Hasty was arrested.

[Bison]

John Canzano is solely to blame for UO freezing out local media.  Canzano was so sure that Lyles was going to be the end of the Oregon program, that he burned every single bridge with Kelly and the coaching staff.  The UO staff, even under Chip, was very open with the national media.  The Portland media these days is basically an anti-Duck instrument, with hosts still trying to get the Ducks punished by insinuating now payments for autographs.  

 

Don't feel too badly...the Denver media is anti-CU.  What is interesting is that some sports writers who are known to be Oregon Duck fans or alumni are those very people fueling the anti-CU attitude.

[RogueDuck]

Don't feel too badly...the Denver media is anti-CU. What is interesting is that some sports writers who are known to be Oregon Duck fans or alumni are those very people fueling the anti-CU attitude.

It's that way at most papers now. It's a dieing business and bad and negative news sells.

[KUGRDON]

Kelly was always intentionally obtuse with journalists.  Riley was, and is, an open book.  As a result, OSU gets better treatment in the press.  I'd say the smart coaches use a different tactic.

 

Helfrich is already better than Kelly, from what I've heard.  

 

Yeah, those angry journalists sure hurt Kelly.

[MisterEm]

Its a dying business but I sure do miss a hard-copy weekend paper....even if I have to read blowhards like Canzano or Jerry Brewer or Art Thiel.

 

 

Yeah, those angry journalists sure hurt Kelly.

 

I don't recall that being the topic of discussion oh King of passive-aggression. I thought the sole representative of the Palouse was schooling the new members around here about being able to "follow the discussion?"

 

 

 

 

 

 

[KUGRDON]

 

Its a dying business but I sure do miss a hard-copy weekend paper....even if I have to read blowhards like Canzano or Jerry Brewer or Art Thiel.

 

 

 

I don't recall that being the topic of discussion oh King of passive-aggression. I thought the sole representative of the Palouse was schooling the new members around here about being able to "follow the discussion?"

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'm glad you're here, you are good for 5 laughs a day. . .easy.

[glduck]

Yeah, 4-loss Riley is such a "smart" coach.  He gets good treatment in the media because there is no reason to try and go after OS.  They are a mediocre program with almost no national exposure, so breaking negative news on their various arrests this summer does nothing for the reporter nationally.

 

You don't get on ESPN by reporting that Tyler Hasty was arrested.

 

 

i don't think he was saying riley was the 'smart' coach, because that would imply kelly was not, and that's just silly.

[Nakedmolerat]

i don't think he was saying riley was the 'smart' coach, because that would imply kelly was not, and that's just silly.

I'd say you inferred it rather than he implied it. Read his comment again, carefully this time. 

 

Saying kelly is dumb is just that- dumb. And Orange wasn't. 

[glduck]

i think we're on the same page there, hoss. 

[glduck]

anyway, jason quick.

 

awful, awful blazer beat writer. the team had long since shut him out, so i'm surprised a move like this didn't happen sooner. if he reported on a trade he was 'hearing' about, you could bet the rumor had been squashed days ago and would never see the light of day. i could gain more insight into the organization by listening to crazy old man mike rice talk for twenty minutes on one of those awful Comcast NW shows. and that's saying something.

 

i'm trying to think who the oregonian has on duck football other than fentress (and now, obviously, quick). i was never a big fentress fan, but that's because i'm typically against writers who put themselves in their stories all the time, and that's certainly fentress. he doesn't bother me as a duck fan, he bothers me as a reader.

 

i'd laugh at the coverage in general but it never really bothered be because i had the internet and never relied on the oregonian for my duck coverage.  

[Orange]

I'd say you inferred it rather than he implied it. Read his comment again, carefully this time. 

 

Saying kelly is dumb is just that- dumb. And Orange wasn't. 

 

Correct.  PapaG has always been known for employing his "get butthurt first, ask questions later" tactic.

[Quack 12]

I'd say you inferred it rather than he implied it. Read his comment again, carefully this time. 

 

Saying kelly is dumb is just that- dumb. And Orange wasn't. 

 

 

Correct.  PapaG has always been known for employing his "get butthurt first, ask questions later" tactic.

 

 

I'm not rushing to Papa's defense, but let's look this again:

 

 

Kelly was always intentionally obtuse with journalists.  Riley was, and is, an open book.  As a result, OSU gets better treatment in the press.  I'd say the smart coaches use a different tactic.

 

Helfrich is already better than Kelly, from what I've heard.  

 

So you wrote that Riley gets better treatment, and you wrote that smart coaches use a different tactic, and you wrote that Helfrich is already better than Kelly. 

 

So the implication is that "a different tactic" results in "better treatment" and is employed by "smart" coaches. Therefore, Riley is "smart" and Kelly wasn't, but Helfrich appears to be "smarter" relative to Kelly.

 

I love semantics!

 

Kelly obviously was antagonistic toward local media, or worse yet, sometimes acted like he'd rather be eating glass than taking their questions. Riley is always patient and kind with everyone, and those are "neat" qualities. Personally, while a guy like Chip is more entertaining, I'd rather have a guy like Riley representing my school.

 

Back to the topic, the fact that Jason Quick would whine in print about his "profession" not being respected is laughable; you have to earn it yourself, son.

[PapaG]

Correct.  PapaG has always been known for employing his "get butthurt first, ask questions later" tactic.

You did post this, right?

 

I'd say the smart coaches use a different tactic.

 

Meaning Riley is the "smart" coach.  I didn't say anything about Kelly, either.  Maybe you should be more clear the next time you have an opinion to express, because the way you worded your post makes it very vague and open to interpretation.

 

Or maybe you don't understand what how one could take your "smart coaches" comment, and criticize it?  In the future, please don't write in gibberish.