HawaiiMongoose
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I suspect the MWC has already privately communicated to Texas State that it has a standing offer of full membership in the MWC if it wants to join. It only makes sense for the MWC to do so, since Texas State is the best available chess piece still left on the board that the MWC has a chance of landing (albeit only a slim chance), and since with nine football members already lined up for 2026 the MWC has no need at the moment to engage in membership negotiations with any less desirable school. Of course if this is the case, Texas State isn't going to seriously consider the MWC's offer unless its prospects of being invited into the Pac or AAC disappear.
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I'm Terminal, So I'd Like To Give You All My Best Wishes.
HawaiiMongoose replied to Nevada Convert's topic in Sports Forum
It’s said mortality is a defining part of being human, but I honestly don’t know how I’ll handle it when my time comes (and most of the sand has run out of my hourglass). I’d like to think I’ll be able to show as much grace and courage as you. Thank you for being part of this community, and I wish you a comfortable and peaceful journey to whatever comes next. Just extrapolating from the fact that our very existence is a sort of inexplicable miracle, it probably will be something good. -
I’m not suggesting that will or should happen, but some folks thought the agreement means all other FCS options are off the table until UCD decides to move up to FBS. I’m just pointing out that’s not the case. A more realistic scenario for NDSU getting a football invitation before UCD moves up would be the conference members as a group deciding they want to add NDSU for 2026, and then before issuing the invitation to NDSU asking UCD if it wants to apply to move up for 2026, and UCD declining to apply because it knows won’t be ready to to play at the FBS level that soon.
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That may be true from a strategic perspective, but it's important to understand that the agreement doesn't in any way preclude the MWC from adding an FCS school in lieu of elevating UCD to full member status. The agreement does say that if in the future "the Conference contemplates elevating an FCS program to Full Member, including participation in the Conference's Football Bowl Subdivision (FBS) competition, the Conference will first invite New Member [UCD] to apply for that opportunity." However, the agreement also states clearly that "the Conference is under no obligation to select the New Member for elevation to Full Member status." So in brief, the conference is in control. Provided that UCD has been invited to submit its application first, and (if it applies) the conference has reviewed and responded to the application, the conference is free to move on to upgrade another school to FBS regardless of whether its decision was to approve or decline UCD's application. If NDSU expresses an interest tomorrow in joining the MWC as a football only-member in 2026, and if the MWC thinks NDSU football should be added to the conference in 2026 instead of UCD football (e.g. because NDSU is better prepared to move up or would be a more valuable addition), all the conference has to do before reviewing and accepting NDSU's application is to give UCD an opportunity to apply first and (if it applies) decline UCD's application.
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Under current NCAA rules, for sports other than football and basketball, a conference must have a minimum of six teams committed to playing a sport in the conference in order for the conference champion to qualify for a post-season auto bid. The six don't all have to be full members of the conference. Affiliates count toward the minimum.
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The Big Sky isn't interested. I know I'm getting repetitive and stating the obvious, but the same point pertains: it takes two parties to tango. None of the potential moves that folks are floating can happen unless there's interest on both sides.
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I agree with all of this, but the point remains that UVU is unlikely (I think) to be allowed to leave the WAC unless Southern Utah and Utah Tech also have lifeboats, and neither the Big West nor the Big Sky seem interested in offering them membership.
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I agree that the Big West would have good reasons to pass on adding Sac State's non-football sports, which is why I suggested the WAC as an alternative. As to whether Sac State putting non-football sports in the WAC would be a bad idea, yes it would be a risk, just as moving up to FBS would be a risk. I think the risk is somewhat ameliorated by the fact that no one has yet made a move to poach any more WAC schools (notably the WCC hasn't made a play for Cal Baptist despite GCU's defection to the MWC), and the fact that Utah Valley is unlikely to leave the conference unless safe landing spots also materialize for Southern Utah and Utah Tech (their shared governing board has an obligation to protect all three equally). While the Big West might be interested in adding Utah Valley, bringing on all three Utah schools is a different proposition and something I think would be much harder to convince the current Big West members to support. Finally, the cost and burden of travel in the WAC would be no worse than in the Big Sky, as Sac State would be trading flights to smaller northern airports that require multiple hops for direct flights to Ontario, Salt Lake City, Las Vegas, and Dallas-Fort Worth.
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I believe UConn was already approached by the Pac and said no. If true then UConn probably has no interest in the MWC.
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Interesting. If that's the case then it may be CUSA as football only (backfilling for UTEP) and the Big West for non-football sports (backfilling for Hawaii). Or if the Big West isn't interested, the WAC would be thrilled to pick up Sac State for non-football sports (backfilling for Seattle).
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No question. But the Pac will want an eight-game conference football schedule, which means a ninth member will be needed. If no one from the AAC is willing to join, that leaves NMSU as a candidate to be paired with Texas State. It wouldn't be a great option, but arguably better than an FCS move-up.
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"The Huskies rank among the Top 30 FBS programs in the country in wins over the last 15 seasons, with five conference championships, 11 winning seasons, and 11 bowl appearances, including in 2024 when NIU posted its second consecutive eight-win season, capped by a victory over Fresno State in the Famous Idaho Potato Bowl." I see what Gloria did there, LOL.
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Fixed. Won't make that mistake again. Thanks!
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No surprise, but the NIU board just voted to formally approve paying the MWC membership fee. Welcome Huskie football to the MWC!
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It's a five year old photo so who knows? My guess is they were running a t-shirt promotion. Show up for the game and you get to keep the t-shirt hanging over the seat you occupy. An alternative to handing them out at the door which would slow down entry.
